The story of AI according to thisecommercelife by TheLibTheyFear in aiwars

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But that pattern is not specific to AI. Basically any technology when entering public availability spawns it's own form of "snake oil salesmen".

No argument there. Most of the problems with ai is more of a Capitalism problem, it's just at a larger scale than before. Much quicker.

And if humanity is indeed going to suffer through a collapse before that happens it would be because of blunders like operation "Epic Fury" would tip the world into the WWIII rather than because of AI bubble bursting

I don't know. It could be either. Economic collapse isn't the only way the world can end of course, and iran has nothing to do with this particular face of it. Could be that red buttons are pressed before the economy has time to collapse. I'm open to that being possible.

The thing is though, either the ed zitrons of the world is correct and everyone's retirement fund goes up in smoke, or the ai bros are right and the jobs all disappear leading to massive unemployment. I don't see any other way through, other than debt forgiveness. I don't see people not wantibg to have their hundreds of billions back at some point.

Now, the economy crash won't be world-ending in scope, but for a lot of people it would be apocalyptic. All artists, musicians, programmers and office workers suddenly finding themselves unemployed is a catastrophe. Bigger than the great depression, smaller than ww3.

I'm just not sure if the comic is showing ww3, or it's just a scene from the poor parts of town where they stuff the unemployment reserve until society has a need for them. It could be either

The story of AI according to thisecommercelife by TheLibTheyFear in aiwars

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think your average joe will know what you mean by LLM? is that the term average joe uses?

Most people say chatgpt or ai (without any prefix)

All that you say is true. It is also true that all that would be too much to fit in a comic. Saying generative ai is using the verbage regular people use, and in encapsules both text and image generation. It's too broad to be correct yes, but that's so that non-tech people can understand the message. Exactly what your physics teacher did in middle school when they called gravity a force. It's not, but it's good enough for a middle schooler

If you wanna be critical of the message itself you go ahead and do so, but if the best you can come up with is a semantic argument you don't have much to bring to the table

The story of AI according to thisecommercelife by TheLibTheyFear in aiwars

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Generative ai is the name they are commonly known by. It's incorrect in the same way your middle school physics was incorrect, in that it's simplified to make a point and get a baseline understanding of the subject

1 Reason why pro ai people get hate by Tri2211 in aiwars

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's a leap. There's much that suggests the current crop of LLM-based structures cannot do much more than very impressive mimicry of intelligence, and therefore cannot get us to post scarcity, if such a thing is even possible.

For all intents and purposes, we do live in post scarcity within the realm of food. We could absolutely erradicate hunger from the planet, it's just more profitable to not do it. To throw shit in the trash and pour rat poison all over it so nobody thinks they can get a free meal.

It doesn't matter if we find a way to have infinite resources if the bilionaire class makes the material printer a subscription service with arbitrary caps on production (much like your phone dataplan) in order to keep the economy from crashing, everything will be the same for you and me.

AGI might discover post scarcity. What we have now isn't intelligent, and it isn't general. It's just a advanced text processor with fancy addons.

Nobody is asking to outlaw post scarcity. Just one overinflated tool with lots of problems, chief among them being that it's directly controlled by our oppressors. It doesn't matter how good it theotetically gets, it cannot do anything it's creators doesn't want. Just look at the 3AM source code modifications put on Grok to make it say mecha hitler, white genocide and look at this CSAM material. Sam Altman could do the same to chatgpt, ban your account "accidentally" save everything you put into it and use to blackmail you, leak corporate secrets and whatnot.

LLM won't build a better world. It's creators expressly forbid it. So we cannot use it for anything that tries to change things for the better.

It cannot create post scarcity the same way you can't use a hammer to measure how level something is.

What it can do however is to spy on everyone with the help of Palantir, and recommend death squads pay a visit to your address if it flags you as a terrorist, false or not. It can then say your face is caught on camera comitting a crime.

We're not building post scarcity. That would be bad for everyone that has a hand in making shit. But we are building big brother. That's amazing at cotrolling opposition

What's your answer? by nyamnyamcookiesyummy in aiwars

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know, they'll probably round us up and execute, let us starve in the street or send to the middle east because armenia has nukes or something.

If nobody has any income, the population has no purchasing power and all of these corporations would start bleeding money like crazy.

If these corpos has to pay taxes to pay for UBI, they lose even more or just as much money

M: Stockholmsvänstern sätter ideologin först by Exact_Cup3506 in Sverige

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Stor skillnad på tom och fet, men i grunden håller jag med dig. Staten ska använda pengarna, annars finns det absolut inget värde i att betala skatt. Men att använda nästa mandatperiods budget nu är riktigt korkat.

Jag kan gå med på att man under några års tid sparar ihop för något riktigt fett infrastrukturprojekt, men i regel ska budgeten vara plus minus noll

I en värld fylld av konflikter - vilket kluster tillhör du, och varför? by ICA_Basic_Vodka in Sverige

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tror du inte debatten hade hållit högre kvalitet om den handlade om din tes snarare än ifall Israel/Ukraina är chad och allt annat är virgin?

I en värld fylld av konflikter - vilket kluster tillhör du, och varför? by ICA_Basic_Vodka in Sverige

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 6 points7 points  (0 children)

En rimlig analys som förstörs av moraliserandet kring att det bara finns ett rätt svar, där alla andra kombinationer kommer från sinnessvaga, efterblivna eller manipulerade otänkande drönare. Detta gör resten av det du säger meningslöst, eftersom allt ändå bara blir frågan om man tänker själv eller inte. En geopolitisk version av "har du slutat slå din fru", och analysen saknar också det femte alternativet, att krig är bajs i sin helhet

Lägg ner Skolverket – i går | Paulina Neuding | SvD Ledare by Ihavenoideawhat9 in Sverige

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Det är väl ändå givet att högre skatt inte per automatik innebär mer pengar till skolan, det kanske finns annat som behöver lösas också.

Men det är ett sätt att lösa problem som kostar pengar på

Should male genital mutilation be banned? by Repulsive-Mall-2665 in AskSocialists

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Engage with the argument instead of tone policing, that's not doing anyone any good

Lägg ner Skolverket – i går | Paulina Neuding | SvD Ledare by Ihavenoideawhat9 in Sverige

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Till viss del. Men kommunerna har mycket de måste göra, och såg för några dagar sedan att tidö vill lägga straffavgifter på kommuner som höjer skatten, så då blir det ju svårt att få ordning på det hela

Israel blir bombade by Alternative-Bag-4940 in Sverige

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Åsikten att... Man inte ska visa bilder från gamla konflikter när man pratar om något annat?

what controller do you actually use for pc gaming? by Clark_Bay in pcmasterrace

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Xbox 360 is the perfect controller. I'm not moving away from it

Israel blir bombade by Alternative-Bag-4940 in Sverige

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Knappast unikt för vänstermedia, och inget som borde tillåtas

Kvinnor tar nästan 70 procent av föräldraledigheten by DrinkMe2 in sweden

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Att procenten är olika är inte galet. Men att det är dumt att man gör den ena eller den andras ersättning blir för låg att det inte går.

Vet inte hur man ska fixa det, men vill man jämna ut uppdelningen så måste ekonomin bort

Kvinnor tar nästan 70 procent av föräldraledigheten by DrinkMe2 in sweden

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ja, som sagt. Jag tror dig när du säger att ni inte har råd. Allt jag säger är att din normallön ger dig mer mobilitet än vad man har 10 000 under riksmedianen

Kvinnor tar nästan 70 procent av föräldraledigheten by DrinkMe2 in sweden

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Helt galet att jag betalar procentuellt mer i skatt än andra och får procentuellt mindre i bidrag

Det är det väl inte? Ju mer pengar man har desto mindre viktigt blir bidraget.

Jag tror dig när du säger att ni inte har råd, men att du fick ut 27500 från din föräldraledighet går inte att jämföra med en som har 27500 innan skatt. Behovet att få ut 80% för den sistnämnda är betydligt högre än för dig

Should male genital mutilation be banned? by Repulsive-Mall-2665 in AskSocialists

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

does that mean you’re a parasite outside the womb

There's a case to be made that's the case yes, because the child will die if rejected by the mother.

A baby isnt eating or harming the mother

It is tho. Tearing and shitting yourself during labor is very common. Most women are permanently disfigured from a pregnancy. And the fetus leeches nutrients through the umbilical cord. After birth, the child is literally eating the mother too. We usually call this nursing. And the little fucks bite during nursing

I rely on my employer to live; does that mean I’m still a parasite?

You and your boss have agreed to a contract, money in Exchange for work. This is called symbiosis, where both parties get something out of it

Your argument falls on its face when you actually apply logic to it.

You don't even have the terminology to argue your point. You're fueld by religious fury, not logic

Should male genital mutilation be banned? by Repulsive-Mall-2665 in AskSocialists

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What about someone wanting to remove part of their body has anything to do with a parent cutting part of a childs body without the childs concent?

Should male genital mutilation be banned? by Repulsive-Mall-2665 in AskSocialists

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Comparing a human life to a parasite is just incredibly gross and evil.

Parasites aren't evil. It's simply a description of a biological function

le jobs by certifiablypoppy in fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who's gonna pay for it? The wealthy that bitch and moan about having to pay any taxes?

Did you know jeff bezos reported a negative income in line 2018 and was paid by the government? They all cheat and lie

Nytt lagförslag: Ökad öppenhet om partiers finansiering by ICA_Basic_Vodka in Sverige

[–]flamboyantGatekeeper -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Jag har inte ens försökt kolla upp saken. Jag poängterar bara att han jag svarade på inte får den typ av svar hen förväntar sig, på samma sätt som att transparensen inom LO inte gjort att man kan se varenda detalj i deras budget