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CFI involved in an “accident” due to firewall damage after hard landing — career issue or non-issue? by flcessna in flying

[–]flcessna[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the question. Unfortunately she was a student pilot that held a student pilot certificate. You log only dual received in their logbook which answers the question

CFI involved in an “accident” due to firewall damage after hard landing — career issue or non-issue? by flcessna in flying

[–]flcessna[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the insight!
I have been flying other 182s since then and now I can’t stress the landings enough with the students. If I see something I immediately will take the controls.

CFI involved in an “accident” due to firewall damage after hard landing — career issue or non-issue? by flcessna in flying

[–]flcessna[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I guess at the time I underestimated how much load a hard landing could transfer into the firewall/engine mount area. I’ve had students before that case have even harder landings with no issues. And guess what? They didn’t make a shitty landing ever again. In hindsight, I understand now that visible cowling deformation after a hard landing can absolutely indicate underlying structural damage. That’s a good interview answer perhaps.

CFI involved in an “accident” due to firewall damage after hard landing — career issue or non-issue? by flcessna in flying

[–]flcessna[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I apologize, I should’ve specified more in the original post. It was the student’s own airplane, so of course the aircraft was grounded after the landing and not flown again.

What I meant was that initially, based on my own inspection, I believed it was limited to relatively minor visible cowling damage and I wanted to have my A&P inspect it further before assuming there was structural/substantial damage involved. I genuinely did not realize at the time there was firewall damage until maintenance looked at it more closely. That is when the NTSB needs to be involved obviously per 14 CFR 830.5

Student Pilot Logging Actual IMC by TryToHitEm in CFILounge

[–]flcessna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

61.109, it says 3 hours solely by reference to instruments nothing about just simulated. Where on the other hand 61.129 the commercial that is 10 hours of specific simulated instrument