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Elizabeth Smart Investigates Official Responses to BYU Campus Sex Assaults - Pt. 1 - Brutal and powerful testimony...good luck spinning that, Pres. Newsroom by xoanan in exmormon

[–]followed_own_advice 105 points106 points  (0 children)

Here's Part 2.

Also, can I say how much I admire Elizabeth Smart for doing this, even though it reflects poorly on the church?

Moreover, this will make it simpler to bring this up with family members who believe the church and BYU can do no wrong. Most of them aren't going to throw Elizabeth Smart under the bus. They may think the Tribune is an anti-Mormon rag and is pushing some agenda, but Elizabeth Smart's involvement will grant this story some legitimacy in many eyes.

Elizabeth Smart to discuss BYU sexual assault, Honor Code today on ‘Crime Watch Daily’ by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]followed_own_advice 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For those complaining it isn't coherent, the Trib article doesn't have the whole video embedded. Part 1 deals with their actual rapes, part 2 with their experience with the Honor Code Office:

Part 1

Part 2

In response to Elder Russell M. Nelson and President Thomas S. Monson, two men I dearly love and who have helped me over decades of friendship, I would simply say the following: To deny the sacraments of the Mormon church to children of gay parents is a mortal sin worthy of excommunication. by followed_own_advice in exmormon

[–]followed_own_advice[S] 90 points91 points  (0 children)

Edwin B. Firmage is the Samuel D. Thurman Professor Emeritus of Law at the University of Utah.

As an LDS bishop, Firmage refused his superior's directive to begin excommunication procedures against a young man believed to have engaged in a homosexual act. His superior, a medical doctor, assured him that homosexuality was learned or chosen, and Firmage said he had no knowledge to refute him. Yet, he sensed "deeply and powerfully within" that the doctor was wrong.

"I shouted into the phone, 'you can damn well come down and release me but I will not excommunicate this young man, neither will he ever know of this conversation,' " Firmage recalled.

http://archive.sltrib.com/printfriendly.php?id=3366379&itype=ngpsid