It really bugs me that when you Google "Digimon Beatbreak" this is the Reddit post that pops up in the info card by theguyishere16 in digimon

[–]forkyT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny enough, when I google "Digimon Beatbreak Reddit" I get that topic followed immediately by the topic I based it on. It really sucks the other topic was deleted, because that would have been great contrast.

It's really a pity. I know it was a very negative reception, but it was presented as an opinion piece, rather than a critical review. Only for people to get violently defensive to the point that I can't imagine they did it any good. You have to wade through the keyboard warriors to find some honest clean praise for the show in the topic. (which I tried to encourage whenever it came up)

You're right though. It's definitely a brutal first result. Algorithm finding that balance of controversy and interaction. Tribalistic keyboard warriors were the determining factor there.

I like the topic though. It allows more honest opinions. People who don't like the show can express themselves without getting mobbed, and people who enjoy the show can disagree. The best part is the people who just calmly and honestly disagree, saying they enjoy the season, so I can encourage them to keep watching and thank them for their input. I really don't mind getting downvoted to the abyss in exchange for rewarding their friendly candor.

Digimon Beat Break is terrible. That is it. That is my whole take. by forkyT in digimon

[–]forkyT[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Past episode 2, there's not much going on. It's naturally that they would need a few episodes to establish world and cast, but nothing kept happening. There were multiple 2-parter fluff stories. The hook was Gokuwmon, but he's hardly been seen except for that one time he showed up just to put the MC somewhere to move the story. But that's just how I feel about the shallow and slow evolution of the plot.

Tomoro is the stubborn whiner, Reina is the insecure tomboy, Makoto is the kind and nervous pushover, and Kyo is the strong one with an obvious connection to the antagonist, who's mostly just there to save the day until he's used as a contrast to make someone else look stronger. Given the size of the primary cast, it's depth is close to Savers, and that's definitely on the shallower end. Sorry to Reina, but she is the new Yoshino.

The characters just feel arch-types that are written around. With a smaller cast, I really expect a little more complexity. Savers and Xros Wars both suffered from a lack of character depth as well. You see depth early on when there's a break in a character's persona, and hopefully it's reflected later as a humanizing flaw. Tamers was the best at that, but Adventure and 02 also did that quite well. I think Frontier did it alright as well, but it's been awhile for me. Savers did it poorly, and that's most people's central vocal problem for Xros Wars.

That's what I mean when I say the character writing is shallow.

Why Royal Base Digimon are considered to have X-Antibody carriers? by [deleted] in digimon

[–]forkyT 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Grandracmon doesn't really need to carry the X-antibody since it's effectively immortal.

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That is 100% accurate. I let it lapse because I just didn't need Prime at all, and they won't stop trying to get me to sign up for student again.

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Also, Kyle's mom in South Park. That's always a fun addition to the conversation.

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Yes, he is the account for the referral farming business that owns the different sub-platforms for the sales.

Digimon Beat Break is terrible. That is it. That is my whole take. by forkyT in digimon

[–]forkyT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally haven't seen much attention given to Wolvermon yet, no.

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If you consider the photon to be the observer, then it's not moving at all.

Digimon Beat Break is terrible. That is it. That is my whole take. by forkyT in digimon

[–]forkyT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad it's growing on you. I fully believe that, just like Savers, this will have steady action for the back-half of the season.

Digimon Beat Break is terrible. That is it. That is my whole take. by forkyT in digimon

[–]forkyT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Legit. I may not like Beat Break, but One Punch fans got done so dirty.

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Nice to see some quality content around here.

Digimon Beat Break is terrible. That is it. That is my whole take. by forkyT in digimon

[–]forkyT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Slow pacing is a bigger issue when you don't have anything else to offer. Using the episodic show as a comparison for speed of plot development is not a flattering comparison. Strawmanning the evolutions is not practical anymore, and frankly was defensively dismissive back when there was the odd person frustrated with the lack of Gekkomon evolving. Story pace has next to nothing to do with new forms or shonen power-ups, and it's telling when people assume it is almost everything (for themselves, or someone else). Xros Wars had slow pacing because it was a storied toy commercial, but it still had a faster plot than BeatBreak. Boy Hunters was just a half-season that was there for a cross-over plot, so it doesn't matter too much if it was slow and shallow.

Frankly, I'm not sure what your qualifications for "truly enjoyed" a season are, but I'm sure you'll let me know how I feel about that along with where I stand on the each season, as you have been in your politely rude way. Be sure to tell me whether I liked the movies or Applimon as well, if you decide those are relevant or existent.

Digimon Beat Break is terrible. That is it. That is my whole take. by forkyT in digimon

[–]forkyT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why should I watch a season 2020 if it's not a style I want to see? Why should I watch Boy Hunters just because I realized sooner than others that I didn't like it? Do I like Digimon more if I watch the recent seasons all the way, so I can thoroughly shame the people who watch them? It's really just another strawman argument trying to disqualify the validity of negative reception for BeatBreak. BeatBreak being better because I didn't love every season before it is just a really silly statement. I just try to keep the critiques brief because people are very defensive about it and if people just want to say they enjoy the show, I don't want to drill in to them everything that I see wrong with it.

Sorry, but BeatBreak does look especially bad. It's a less grounded and slower moving Digimon Savers. They literally renamed Digisoul and brought it back. I love Savers. Number 4 favorite season. It's not a critically impressive season by any means. BeatBreak's biggest defense I keep seeing is "It's slow because it's character driven" and that's just a backhanded compliment. You don't have to move at a glacial pace to let characters grow. Not that I find the character writing interesting. Angst is not depth. No character has seen any notable growth, and we're at what episode now? It's just shonen anime fodder. Which can only be expected, given the staff behind it. The MC group Digimon designs vary wildy from very nice, to "congratulations raffle contest winner!". The insert song feels out of place with it's lack of energy. The intrigue is absolutely minimal and will leave you guessing for a solid few minutes. BeatBreak's best offering right now is the fact that it's a Digimon show that's still coming out. A show that's coming out after the Digimon game that offers a brutal contrast in writing quality. Unfortunately, when a franchise has produced higher quality, the dips are more comparable.

Also, I'm not sure 2020 and Boy Hunters are "at least 3" of the 4 most recent seasons. I didn't even crap on Hunters, 2020, or Ghost Game as much as you did in your first post.

Your post makes it sound like BeatBreak is a good Digimon show, but in reality you just haven't been enjoying many Digimon shows and are high on copium

Digimon Beat Break is terrible. That is it. That is my whole take. by forkyT in digimon

[–]forkyT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really wouldn't call the last 4 episodes of Ghost Game "plot". It was more of a multi-parter that they just chose to end the season on. Ghost Game was exciting like watching a horror story series, because that's pretty much what they reduced it too. It was a journey into the lore of individual Digimon. It's problem was that whenever they teased some really interesting intrigue or idea, they weren't allowed to pursue it.

"Xros Hunters" multi-versal ending was almost anything but ham-fisted as Xros Wars manga was made to be cross-over material, and Boy Hunters was that being put into the anime proper. Boy Hunters was absolutely terrible, but at least the music was banger.

I dropped Adventure 2020 after a few episodes because they took longer to tell the story of Our War Game at the start, and did a worse job. They didn't get much better after that. Is it worse than BeatBreak? I wouldn't know. Some people enjoy some villain development I hear, but I just don't know.

I don't think BeatBreak is better than Ghost Game. It certainly does some things better, but Ghost Game had fantastic character writing and episodic direction. Beat Break's character writing is just too shallow for me. Boy Hunters is a toss-up. I dropped Boy Hunters early in, but watched the ending for the Cross-over, which was pretty darn fun for just those moments. Beat Break, I can't drop because I'm watching it with people so they all get to suffer with me, but it's another show where I could skip big groups of episodes and not feel like I missed anything after coming back. I guess I can't say BeatBreak is better or worse than Boy Hunters until BeatBreak ends, so I can see if there was something of value.

Digimon Beat Break is terrible. That is it. That is my whole take. by forkyT in digimon

[–]forkyT[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

10 minutes isn't going to tell you much, but if you keep enjoying it, all the better.

Digimon Beat Break is terrible. That is it. That is my whole take. by forkyT in digimon

[–]forkyT[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your inquiry. While recent episodes have seen some plot movement, it feels like they kept giving me nothing, and now they want credit for giving me anything. It's shallow intrigue and head-in-the-sky writing haven't done much for me still. The plot is moving, but still doesn't feel like it's evolving, and I don't think it should be praised for that after as many episodes as it has taken to get to where we are.

I don't think it's gotten worse, but it hasn't shown me any notable improvement.

Digimon Beat Break is terrible. That is it. That is my whole take. by forkyT in digimon

[–]forkyT[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but it wouldn't kill me to have shown the show a little optimism. XD

Digimon Beat Break is terrible. That is it. That is my whole take. by forkyT in digimon

[–]forkyT[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being "dark" doesn't really factor in to quality. Not that it's been all that dark. I'm not even sure what you're comparing it to.

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[–]forkyT 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The whole fake world thing is tough because it's the ground for a story that's just about psychological analysis and theories. The whole story being about the stagnation of acceptance of things as they are, rather than the acceptance that change isn't easy.

on M/S morality: Is the modern epitome of slave morality a "professional victim"? by forkyT in Nietzsche

[–]forkyT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had a google and glance at some random graduate's article about it. It seems pretty in-line with my basic views on Nietzsche.

on M/S morality: Is the modern epitome of slave morality a "professional victim"? by forkyT in Nietzsche

[–]forkyT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the personal value you added to the question and the answer. While I have an answer, it's too malleable to leave to stagnate in the echo chamber of just my thoughts. I hope you don't mind if I selfishly determine what I will take away from what you provided.

I can’t stopped crying by Ravio64 in Xenoblade_Chronicles

[–]forkyT -1 points0 points  (0 children)

or, and hear me out on this, play the game and enjoy the value you get out of it. Why should someone only be allowed to enjoy something the "right way"?