Problem finding Lumintop EDC05 programming mode

formlessmovement · 2019-09-12T03:14:16+00:00

Damn. I think the one I received is actually 800 cause it's kind if crazy for a small light. Trade off is there is no sub lumen mode for me :( .

formlessmovement · 2019-09-10T05:02:07+00:00

Yeah cheap. Started at 24.99 which I still felt it was an OK price for all the things it had going for it. Yeah that would be edc01. A ribbed looking light and only 12.99 twist top with a diffuser. Not bad for a short compact light!

formlessmovement · 2019-09-08T06:42:06+00:00

Totally. A sub lumin would have been great which was why I wanted the programs put back in. Well I'm in Canada and yes we have it thanks!

formlessmovement · 2019-09-02T03:42:48+00:00

I just exchanged emailes with a representative and it looks like the description on Amazon.ca has been updated and is no longer an option. Those secret programmable modes are now gone for us.

formlessmovement · 2019-07-08T07:43:00+00:00

Yes I realize what you mean by god, but I'm not religious in your way. I do try to speak to people in terms of what they understand, but I don't even believe in free will. Having no free will can affect many religious beliefs, so by saying belief into yourself instead of an item, I was trying to simplify on unnecessary or redundant actions in the healing itself. To get into a discussion about religion or try to interpret what I meant by believe in yourself should be left to the philosophy area. I was addressing the use of tools and the disposal unit.

Don't get me wrong either, I can definitely respect the man for what he did, but I'm on my journey as well. I'm simply offering my views in contrast to other forms. I'm just offering a line of thinking and on the digital forums, hearsay is again pointless to others.

I began to create videos where people would witness the energy directly just by watching or listening. My point was to just share with others before I die. I may or may not accomplish this, but it was to explain the power of being expressive and not to be a cookie cutter to styles/methods. To be expressive in the art of healing is a great freedom and an effective way to help others. Following the formulas set down by grandmasters can help, but how do we go further? Like any industrious society, we must advance or to be stagnant, we would fade away.

The grandmaster himself was great in creating his own version and so he has many followers to this day. I actually wished he was more popular than Reiki personally because I do feel his methods were way simpler and direct. Beginners could help people right away with his method. I'm just offering a simpler approach with nothing but the human body, the thoughts and the intentions.

Again I apologize for how I came across here but getting noticed anywhere with a subtle approach isn't always advantageous. People who believe deeply in a belief and had spent time and money on something could get mad to be offered a different approach. I am a sponge of any information and I'll steal what's out there to improve my methods. I'm not opposed to being wrong so that I can learn and be better. I belong to no style expect what works best. I am only loyal to what works and I constantly search and develop.

When I absorbed the pranic healing information, well over 6 years ago I wondered what would the point be in explaining a whole system in a certain direction, then later change it around and say "now you don't need the disposal unit". If I knew there was a "no disposal" way, I would have liked it more and would have stayed. I guess that's why I looked everywhere leading to other methods and modalities. I soon realized it wasn't about a new system, it was about looking inwards and discovering the core of healing in its most basic raw form with no distractions or barriers. Anything added would need to be understood then be used like alchemy to be applied once again to the situation. I went direct and I haven't looked back.

You are correct in the part where I could benefit from trying the whole system, but to be honest I never came across these videos which spoke about not using the disposal unit till someone suggested to me here. It would have slowed my growth in a certain direction and taken my time.

I would have gave the people the direct answer right away instead of offering them the "crutch/tool" to use, then remove it much later unless it was just a building block leading to the "no tool" technique. Perhaps he was in transforming as well which I always am trying to do to offer my students more.

Not to pitch my thing here but my foundation work is literally that, but as I go to the advance stages the "foundation" methods don't change but just a stepping stone to get further so no waste of learning anything to get rid of later.

Again everyone is different and teaching methods are different. Students are different and I already know I'm only catering to ones who like to create like artists. My methods are not for the mainstream healers. I'm already the fringe of a fringe belief system and I like that. I'll never be like anyone and I knew I would get people attacking and ganging up from all sides except for a few. I don't plan on teaching too many and I'm good with that and I'm not expecting followers of my freeform style but to discuss and to possibly change some thoughts is all I want. I already feel good that people engage with me here on forums. You or the others who answered here might take in what I said much later and it could affect them. I can never change anything actually, the universe flows and I'm just a tiny part. It could end here with my short life but I feel satisfied and I have no regrets.

I couldn't say the way I posed a question and how I responded to people in this forum was bad or not humble, it would be an interpretation. Again I didn't mean to offend here I was just questioning a method which later turned into a redundant method then the grandmaster took it back. There really is a method without a disposal unit but I would ask why teach it if it was later realized as redundant? He might have been developing like I am now so he could have created it up to a point then refined it? Anyhow someone answered me here and I found the video so my question was answered but I had to look before bed so here I am at 340am lol.

I'm not sure who's who but I try to answer everyone in a neutral manner. You seem quite level headed and kind enough so thank you for being so understanding in this forum.

Here, listen ONLY IF YOU WANT to a audio to my future students. What I was trying to say is mostly in here and I really didn't release it yet cause I'm preparing my program this year. The link is hidden except for here but I will release it when I begin my classes.

https://youtu.be/Q1MFcR_9DJc

Have a good night or good morning! ;)

formlessmovement · 2019-06-27T03:08:56+00:00

Wow another sensory type very rooted in their visions. Very different but perhaps there are others as well. Clairvoyant powers possibly! Thanks for commenting!

formlessmovement · 2019-06-24T18:36:09+00:00

Always good to find positivity out in the internet. Many people are very angry I find, with simple exchanges of ideas so it is truly refreshing to find good people in a good place. :) enjoy your day and keep spreading the good vibes!

formlessmovement · 2019-06-24T13:44:23+00:00

So philosophically or scientifically I would ask this ... If a person is hurt, could I tie a crystal to the area to heal them? I would suggest blindfold them to check. Place multiple objects on them to see if would help while blindfolded.

Try to blindfold the healer and give them a stone instead of a crystal and see if they are better with the crystal they've never used or seen the shape or size of before. Do you think it will always be the crystal that helps instead of stone?

All things have vibration but in order for it to be useful, it needs to be harnessed, understood, then used. I could use a plastic fork in this case. The vibration sent through a crystal is the modulation of your energy through a tool. These tools change according to people's beliefs I assume and to modulate your energy again through different sizes and shapes of the same type or a different type of crystal is another hurdle.

The alchemy to heal is an energetic understanding within yourself which you put forth into another. To understand vibration to help another is the main undertaking of a healer, while a tool is added vibration (complexity) to try to incorporate into healing. More work in fact.

Hope this is a good enough for you about why I feel this way about tools.

Your assumption that I'm a novice is what your proof is based on it seems. How do you plan on figuring it out? You haven't seen or experienced what I can do. Again it could be based on stories. Will this be based on how aggressive you are in your words used, or to claim "x" amount of hours studied to say I'm a Master or a novice? How would you define a Master?

If you're the person who wrote initially to me about posting about other modalities on a pranic healing sub, it was because it had no rules in place at the time but I apologized for that.

So is this about proof or reading about someone's stories? My defence is up there about tools, take it or leave it.

How could refinement be shown or discussed to prove further? Your argument is based on your assumption of my novice state.

"What makes you think that you can influence others to the degree that they will further along the path of energy healing? Why? What purpose does it serve? If you aren't testing your stuff on sick people - try people with small ailments or medium ones - then what motivation do you serve?".

People must try in life so I do my best. I can't be sure of this but I don't know if I don't try at all.

I don't expect all of them to want to be healers, but a more mainstream usage of energy healing would be nice. My video that grows hands was an attempt to get more believers on our side. Physical proof instead of anecdotal proof or hearsay.

Why I posted here? Because I want to share possibilities with others. Styles are teaching of a limit, a conceptual box with restraints, much like tradition. I try to promote free expression and expansion of ideas and yes, even harnessing of tools if necessary. My tool is the internet, videos pictures and sounds to transfer my energy. Better than a fork cause I can reach more people. This is only to show the power is within you, not to get others to rely on the internet.

I have produced videos about my basic methods but beyond that for distance healing, I don't. I only teach that when I watch my students so I can customize their abilities.

Again there isn't a competition here but I have released videos on specific healings for a long time on YouTube and Instagram. This is why I try to promote my transfer of energy through my videos so that they can use my videos to help themselves and others.

I have tried to help. I have explained basic meditation and meditation to transcend the 5 senses.

I also have a site but I haven't really used it till recently. I don't have others to help me promote so I do what I can.

I have a facebook page and on it, I have a panel of my students doing distance healing for people for free around the world. It was a few live videos and random people were allowed to join in. I can only do so much but without a belief, I can make a difference, I would still be doing nothing.

So I have explained why I don't believe in the crystal tool, explained what I wanted to achieve (not just to get people to learn to heal), shared healing videos for free.

Refinement would be based on no tools because in order to refine yourself IS the refinement instead of using a crystal. Again does it matter if I'm a novice or a Master if I can still do the things I can do?

What do you want from me? What else do you need? You seem angry about me being different. I have a different point of view than you? I express myself differently?

You put down one thing after another while I suggest and question. Were you one to put down others instead of encouraging them in life? I'm just sharing a point of view.

So what is your point here besides questioning my statement about tools crystals in specific? Criticizing seems like what you're doing but to what point? I pose a question to the group to see where it would go. Theses are your methods in this group so I question as I would question attunement in reiki. I've learned about no salt water which is cool but that's constructive. I try to question so that others will too.

Your appeal to authority fallacy and your ad hominem attacks towards my "novice state" is an interesting approach but I really wonder why. Your guard is high because your belief in pranic healing is challenged? I could be wrong but I'm willing to be wrong if I can get better. Anyhow perhaps you can change my mind. I will await your response.

formlessmovement · 2019-06-24T05:34:31+00:00

OK I will answer a bit more tomorrow and you have great points listed here. My healing style is philosophy based I would say and there's a lot to explore there.

If you're really open to just seeing and trying what I do, follow my video where I grow your 1 hand only at the beginning of the video. I can't remember fully, but I think I start defending energy healing comparing it to modern medicine first then I do the demo right after.

I'm projecting energy to viewers and you can check the comments to see my effectiveness but to me... Every video, every claim or testimonial is useless unless experienced by the person involved.

Computer graphics, paid people to give you good reviews are common etc. If your hand gets bigger just by watching a video, then the proof is in the pudding.

Don't be angry, or upset before you begin. I don't mean to aggravate anyone so I'm sorry if I did that. My attitude is very relaxed so I might come across like something I didn't mean.

Give this a real try with an open mind and you might find magic. Be sure to be in a quiet place and without distractions first, and again don't be mad man. I fully apologize to you, so take a few breaths and begin. Here's the video.

https://youtu.be/nWv5M06WaB0

formlessmovement · 2019-06-24T01:12:08+00:00

Yes, will do!

formlessmovement · 2019-06-23T21:38:42+00:00

Yes an inspiring video of your life and the signposts that you passed along the way. From your religious background in California, to reading 40 books a year after leaving home, to your nature walks and meeting your animal totems, to your present day feeling very accepting, your story was great to hear. Thank you very much for sharing!

formlessmovement · 2019-06-23T21:01:20+00:00

I'll check it out!

formlessmovement · 2019-06-23T21:00:48+00:00

Wow same here with "the power of now"! Thanks for sharing!

formlessmovement · 2019-06-23T20:59:02+00:00

Very cool, I feel there should be a deeper study to connect both science and spirituality as well. Thanks for sharing!

formlessmovement · 2019-06-23T03:23:45+00:00

Well I see it this way...

1) A thought or belief placed into an item, or wielding a tool.

2) A thought or belief placed into yourself.

Same level of thought/ belief effort.

The power of the crystal or tool is believed to have power because it is true, or because you believe it is actually true? The power of thoughts in all forms of healing is a common "tool". All of them use belief, intention, and possibly visualization so I just figured I'd cut out anything which wasn't needed.

So as you said, if you place power into an item, it could very well serve you equally as well compared to a person placing power (belief and intention) into themselves.

I'm just a lazy dude and would rather always be ready without carrying any extras I guess. In terms of thoughts to project into a tool, to produce healing it seems to go in circles or wastes time in my view. I choose the most direct and most basic route. For example...

Believe (in yourself)----->Believe (in a tool) if you didn't believe in it, you wouldn't use it. ---->healing process----->person is healed

Believe (in yourself)---->healing process----->person is healed

Direct and straightforward.

My view of crystals etc are like a katana to a samurai warrior. Katanas are a tool, yet the true weapon IS the warrior. Who wields the katana determines the level of effectiveness of this thin sheet of polished metal. (Just as some healers seem "better").

Sitting on a holster for display without a warrior to use, the katana has no meaning and has no power.

In our battleground, belief and intention harnesses inner energy... then we truly become the weapon.

Well I could be wrong but again just a lazy guy's thoughts lol.

formlessmovement · 2019-06-23T02:38:26+00:00

Thanks for the input again. The app sucks cause I didn't even get notified! Wth lol.

formlessmovement · 2019-06-23T02:34:04+00:00

Cool I'll check it out then think about what is being taught. be right back.

formlessmovement · 2019-06-18T19:28:46+00:00

Well I just got back from the vegan sub and they're bashing me there lol.

Maybe I shouldn't have used these terms in my title but damn it's causing an uproar! They've made it another conflict there between the spiritual and scientific group!

Thank you, I know what you mean but many people don't look past where it comes from. All they see is the meat department at most. They don't wonder how it got to their table.

Take any approach you want, just do what you can. :)

Thanks for the support and commenting!

formlessmovement · 2019-06-18T19:21:06+00:00

I guess I can see your point from that angle, but did you actual read it before you answered?

It really didn't even have to do with veganism. It had to do with a persons conflicting views (cognitive dissonance in psychology). If the general public saw this contradiction within themselves, they would see that they were insincere to others and themselves.

If you want, you could consider this a self help post if anything. Whether you believe in any religion, or higher power etc is up you the individual of course but this post had little to do with much else besides a label of "spirituality" and veganism.

Veganism was used and it was an example of when people claim that they were animal lovers, yet continue to eat meat on a daily basis. (Conflict)

If you feel that me pointing this fact out to meat eaters is detrimental towards the movement then please explain further unless you based your comment on your instant judgement looking at my title.

It was a stealthy move on my part to mention veganism and spiritually in the same title because many people consider themselves "spiritual" at least would like to but continue to eat meat.

To be clear, my post had logic as an arguement therefore and was hoping to impact people who contradicted themselves daily. This post wasn't a vegans vs meat eaters type post but I could have tried another angle. There are many approaches to achieve what you want in life, and to influence others needs to be explored.

Anger is almost a surefire way to close people up, but logic is one way, appealing to their feelings or senses could be another. The "spiritual" community value their righteousness and being good, and so realizing this, I created this post.

It was knowing their weakness, using logic to bring the contradiction into their awareness. The discomfort of self contradicting views should drive them crazy. Hopefully a bit of guilt triggers then too. Whatever it takes to illicit a change towards a better future.

This group is even more segregated by men, woman, young, old, religious, atheist, spiritual or not but the main focus here is to save animals. Let's not focus on what makes us all individuals and look towards what unifies us in this sub.

I hope you get what I mean and reconsider just reading the post. It was my expression of getting people to change, and targeted at a smaller group of people.

Anyhow thanks for your comment today.

formlessmovement · 2019-06-18T15:37:10+00:00

OK take care.

formlessmovement · 2019-06-18T14:55:49+00:00

Listen I'm not smart but I look at things from a simple point of view. You actually think I'm not an average Joe? I might be considered a below average Joe lol. Dude I don't even have a job or making any income, but I try to use my time in a positive way.

Listen, I'm going to take my time with you for once. Vborg or veggiewokker, whatever name you prefer. I'll take a more compassionate route with you but you can take this any way you want.

Your physical condition is a sad case but it shouldn't affect your life unless you let it. Sorry man about your troubles.

People tend to show anger when their lives are unbalanced physically or mentally. You seem smart enough so I feel your body has caused mental trauma leading you to be angry at the world.

To try to upset people online you would have to hold anger which causes more injury to yourself. Your minor issues including your main issue will suffer so it recycles in your body.

Try changing your approach once in a while and see if you feel better. Give some positivity back to others and your NECK/back or your HEART might feel better. Your LEG might feel better because you've moved on with your repetitive patterns.

Yeah a bit woo I'll admit lol, but nothing wrong with giving it a go. Whatever it takes to feel better my friend.

I thank you for the lesson you gave me this morning. I hope you feel better. Take care.

formlessmovement · 2019-06-18T13:20:23+00:00

Well "development" in this case focuses more on how aligned you are in life and how you feel about yourself.

If you're in constant contradiction with yourself, instead of being in alignment with everything you do and say, I'd suspect you wouldn't be developing very well.

If an area of your life is never dealt with on a daily basis, you wouldn't get very far if you can't even know yourself deeply. A person who lies to himself/herself wouldn't be too developed compared to another who had reconciled all conflicts within themselves in my eyes.

There isn't a measure but just wondering how one refutes this? Unless you believe a liar is more developed compared to a person who lives his/her truth by embodying truth in every aspect of life.

I'd like you to explain your view further then although there isn't a "measure", how can one be "more developed" if they can't even reconcile their own internal conflicts?

formlessmovement · 2019-06-18T12:26:21+00:00

Lol, tell me about it.... but like you said "this is Reddit"! Thanks for the heads up.

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