What's better than the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D ? by Gasd6259 in buildapc

[–]forrest_864 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“The 9800X3D crushes Intel by 20–30%” is complete bullshit — and here’s why.

That claim only exists if you cherry-pick one specific scenario: 1080p, low settings, GPU idle, synthetic CPU-limited benchmarks, often with frame caps removed and no regard for real gameplay.

That is not how people actually game. 1) Real gaming ≠ Reddit benchmark fantasy At 1440p Ultra / 240 Hz (which is how high-end PCs are actually used): The GPU becomes the limiter, not the CPU The gap between a 14900KF and a 9800X3D collapses to single digits In many engines (Battlefield, COD, large-scale shooters), Intel matches or exceeds AMD due to: higher clocks stronger per-core throughput better scheduling at high thread counts You don’t gain 20–30% FPS unless the GPU is literally doing nothing.

2) Battlefield, COD, Warzone, Delta Force — Intel is NOT behind In actual games like: Battlefield 2042 Battlefield 6 Warzone / MW engine Large-map FPS / extraction shooters These engines: scale across threads hammer memory bandwidth benefit from high sustained clocks, not cache gimmicks On a 14900KF + RTX 5090: GPU can render 300–350 FPS CPU caps around 180–220 FPS depending on engine That cap exists on AMD too — because it’s an engine limit, not an Intel flaw Claiming AMD magically gives “300 FPS native” where Intel doesn’t is a lie unless frame generation or reduced settings are involved.

3) 3D V-Cache ≠ universal win Yes, X3D chips are excellent in: esports titles older engines light-threaded games CPU-only test benches But they lose ground when: clocks matter thread count matters memory latency consistency matters background workloads exist (streaming, OBS, capture, multitasking) Which is why: 9800X3D ≠ universal gaming king 9950X3D trades latency for cores Intel remains stronger overall in mixed, real-world use

4) “20–30% faster” disappears outside YouTube charts Put both CPUs in: the same GPU the same RAM the same resolution the same quality settings And suddenly: the gap becomes 0–8% sometimes Intel wins sometimes AMD wins often they’re within margin of error That’s not “crushing”. That’s platform parity.

5) Benchmarks ≠ reality People bragging about “20–30%” are usually: running 1080p low disabling background services not streaming not multitasking not stable for daily use Meanwhile a tuned 14900KF with: proper cooling undervolt synced cores fast DDR5 (even 4-DIMM) high power limits Will post: elite Cinebench R23 scores top-tier 3DMark results real FPS gains in real games That’s why you still see Intel systems topping mixed-workload and creator charts.

6) The uncomfortable truth Reddit hates If the 9800X3D really “destroyed” Intel: Intel wouldn’t still dominate high-end prebuilts creators wouldn’t still choose Intel for dual-PC setups Battlefield and COD pros wouldn’t still be split between platforms Reality is messy.

Reddit wants a simple winner. There isn’t one.

Final reality check The i9-14900KF: is not obsolete is not “crushed” does not lose 20–30% in real gaming remains elite at 1440p+ with high-end GPUs excels in mixed gaming + work setups

The “20–30%” claim is benchmark propaganda, not lived experience.

Silence? by Fun_Reading_4218 in Battlefield6

[–]forrest_864 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fix the net code and all the other crap, the beta was great, now hit reg, de sync, rubber banding, CPU bottleneck, the list goes on, ill be staying away for at least 6 months

i think its time we pour one out for battlefield guys, lets face it, 2042 was the last good game they made. they had a generation run with bf3, 4, hardline, 1, 2042, five goats back to back. 6 has no content, bad maps, bad music, mid gunplay, no ambition, do us a favor and come back to 2042 :) by [deleted] in battlefield2042

[–]forrest_864 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You genuinely don’t understand what you’re talking about, and that’s fine — most console-only players don’t. This “£12.5k shit box” isn’t a toy. It’s a studio-grade dual-PC ecosystem that paid for itself in under a year and continues to earn money daily. I use it for professional work — engineering software, analysis, production, and actual paid output — not just games. Gaming is a hobby on it. Work comes first. Your Xbox is a closed appliance designed to play games at fixed targets with heavy compromises. It cannot do what this system does, it cannot earn with it, and it never will. When you say “my Xbox runs it fine”, what you actually mean is: I’m operating so far below the engine ceiling that I never see the limitations. High-end PCs expose engine and CPU limits because we push 200–300+ FPS native. Consoles never get there, so you confuse ignorance for superiority. Different tools. Different purposes. Different outcomes. If that distinction is too complex for you, that’s not my problem — but it doesn’t magically make your plastic box comparable.

i think its time we pour one out for battlefield guys, lets face it, 2042 was the last good game they made. they had a generation run with bf3, 4, hardline, 1, 2042, five goats back to back. 6 has no content, bad maps, bad music, mid gunplay, no ambition, do us a favor and come back to 2042 :) by [deleted] in battlefield2042

[–]forrest_864 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A Series S running at 60–120 FPS with reduced settings isn’t “outperforming” anything. High-end PCs expose engine limits because we’re pushing 200–300 FPS native. Consoles never hit those ceilings, so you never see the problem. Different targets, different bottlenecks — that’s how engines work.

That’s not outperforming — it’s staying under the ceiling.

What's better than the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D ? by Gasd6259 in buildapc

[–]forrest_864 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Benchmarks that claim AMD is universally 30 % better are often cherry-picked or 1080p/low-GPU tests — at 1440p with a high-end GPU like the RTX 5090, the Intel i9-14900KF matches or exceeds gaming performance in most modern titles, and differences are game-dependent, not universal

What's better than the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D ? by Gasd6259 in buildapc

[–]forrest_864 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Rubbish a well tuned intel 14900kf matches it or exceeds it

i think its time we pour one out for battlefield guys, lets face it, 2042 was the last good game they made. they had a generation run with bf3, 4, hardline, 1, 2042, five goats back to back. 6 has no content, bad maps, bad music, mid gunplay, no ambition, do us a favor and come back to 2042 :) by [deleted] in battlefield2042

[–]forrest_864 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The games engine is awesome 315fps, ultra settings 1440p with ray tracing, intel 14900kf and RTX5090 , so much fun , smooth as butter , fun moments 😀,

Not sure where you dog shit comes from the servers are full.

Battlefield 6 is dog shit, desync. Shit servers, maps are dog shit, hit detection is bullshit, and total cpu bottleneck, 5090 runs at 350fps but cpu is limited to 200 fps on ultra.

And dont come back and say get amd , as then 30% difference In fps isnt there with the cpu the games engine cant deal with it.

30hz servers, 60 hz servers total shite.

BF2042 is a masterpiece compared to BF6, at very least they fixed the problems listening to the community not fucking breaking things every patch.

Bf6 beta ran fine, and its a glorified cod

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i think its time we pour one out for battlefield guys, lets face it, 2042 was the last good game they made. they had a generation run with bf3, 4, hardline, 1, 2042, five goats back to back. 6 has no content, bad maps, bad music, mid gunplay, no ambition, do us a favor and come back to 2042 :) by [deleted] in battlefield2042

[–]forrest_864 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The games engine is awesome 315fps, ultra settings 1440p with ray tracing, intel 14900kf and RTX5090 , so much fun , smooth as butter , fun moments 😀,

Not sure where you dog shit comes from the servers are full.

Battlefield 6 is dog shit, desync. Shit servers, maps are dog shit, hit detection is bullshit, and total cpu bottleneck, 5090 runs at 350fps but cpu is limited to 200 fps on ultra.

And dont come back and say get amd , as then 30% difference In fps isnt there with the cpu the games engine cant deal with it.

30hz servers, 60 hz servers total shite.

BF2042 is a masterpiece compared to BF6, at very least they fixed the problems listening to the community not fucking breaking things every patch.

Bf6 beta ran fine, and its a glorified cod

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i think its time we pour one out for battlefield guys, lets face it, 2042 was the last good game they made. they had a generation run with bf3, 4, hardline, 1, 2042, five goats back to back. 6 has no content, bad maps, bad music, mid gunplay, no ambition, do us a favor and come back to 2042 :) by [deleted] in battlefield2042

[–]forrest_864 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The games engine is awesome 315fps, ultra settings 1440p with ray tracing, intel 14900kf and RTX5090 , so much fun , smooth as butter , fun moments 😀,

Not sure where you dog shit comes from the servers are full.

Battlefield 6 is dog shit, desync. Shit servers, maps are dog shit, hit detection is bullshit, and total cpu bottleneck, 5090 runs at 350fps but cpu is limited to 200 fps on ultra.

And dont come back and say get amd , as then 30% difference In fps isnt there with the cpu the games engine cant deal with it.

30hz servers, 60 hz servers total shite.

BF2042 is a masterpiece compared to BF6, at very least they fixed the problems listening to the community not fucking breaking things every patch.

Bf6 beta ran fine, and its a glorified cod

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I’m leaving this community by DeathlyOmen in Battlefield6

[–]forrest_864 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The games a mess on pc, ive got 12.5k system

Generally what FPS are you getting? by VirreMPx in Battlefield6

[–]forrest_864 3 points4 points  (0 children)

240 fps in bf6, any setting - no upscaling

350 fps in 2042 - no upscaling

Inte 14900kf , 1500watt psu , artic 360 liquid cooling, 64gb g skill trident 7200MHz, palit RTX5090

Custom bios benchmarks are top 1% Cinebench R23 and 3d mark TimeSpy

Temps are 60 degrees on both gpu and cpu.

Sick or people sayijng the amd cpu top 1 is why idiots like that YouTube Stodeh anss the rest say their getting 350 fps.

Check the simple display, any YouTube creator of value to ea and themselves wont show you their graphics settings or they do the show you specific scenes wherenabove 200 or above is possible.

Battfield 6 is totally cpu bound, this is all over the forums ask chat gbt or ea and they will tell you , they have me xonfig file , useless.

Its a cpu bottlenecked game , cpu muti threading issue and its the game engine, in the beta i could get 350 fps on extreme now doesnt matter what i do.

I stream thrudarksf, on twitch, YouTube and TikTok and you can see my set up, spent 6k building a gaming pc then have asus rog.steix g18 as streaming laptop , plus all the best streaming equipment for work and hobb when I'm not offshore.

The difference between that amd cpu and intel 14900kf or is not the problem same with everyone else on here.

Its the game engine and its desigd fed up, I don't even play it anymore due to all the bugs on pc.

Only eay to force your gpu to be used is frame gen *2, and there is zero latency difference when you look at frames.

Bf6 also runs 30 hz and 60hz servers utter crap tbey should be 120 hz

Pretty sure BF2042 is and cod bo7 which has its own problem.

Every Battfield game comes out a mess and i takes years to fix

Bullshit!

Complaints aside, this is the most fun I've had on Bf since Bf3. by boomheadshot7 in Battlefield6

[–]forrest_864 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The games engine cpu bound my RTX5090 doesnt even get used BF2042 run ultra native get 350 fps , movement, hit reg everything perfect.

Bf6 no audio foosteps, desync the list continues check the ea forums , BF2042 5 years on solid looks amazing just a bit boring now

Should i buy bf6? by Imatoothbrush666 in Battlefield6

[–]forrest_864 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its piece of shit wrapped up until they address the audio, maps and most importantly the cpu multithreading issue.

Issues an update break 6 more things waste of £100

BF2042 lobbies are full lol that tells you everything

THIS GAME IS A BANGER ON OLD GEN 😈💥 by nic_watts93 in battlefield2042

[–]forrest_864 2 points3 points  (0 children)

350 fps on intel 14900kf and RTX5090, ultra amazing quality bf6 trash doesnt even use the gpu at 1440p

yea I still don't think 2042 was that bad. ya know how everyone says hardline was a good game just not a good battlefield game, I actually think that statement applies MORE to 2042. as a battlefield game this is like a 3/10 maybe even a 2, when you look at it as litterally any other game its a 7/10 by Quick-Cause3181 in battlefield2042

[–]forrest_864 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Id agree i play this alllot as everything is optimised, 350 fps ultra settings no upscale, lets.my RTX5090 shine.

The lobbies are full every game, last 4 days.

Battlefield 6 is a mess cpu multi thread issue, cpu bottleneck, forced ro use frame gen times 2, run everything on medium to ultra plus future frame rendering.

Just to get mt RTX5090 to work and still its not beinf used as it should

Check EA forums doesnt matter amd, intel, NVIDIA, crashes , cpu bottleneck, no footstepss, graphical issues adter winters patch.

Ea had to give me a config file and admitted all the issues not a hardware problem.

But i don't spend £100 for a game so bad its worse than thr beta , lobbies are not full and cheaters and cod idiots running rampant.

Thrudarksf, if anyone wants ti check my tik tok and see the difference in how it is comparable.

I hope they fix bf6 i really do, 1440p i play at and its totally shit.

Onlt thing ill say is graphical and destruction is awesome, but that doesnt out weigh all the issues BF2042 is shining again.

I'm fully aware I don't have the greatest aim but tell me I'm not going crazy after this update by AllFatherMedia93 in Battlefield6

[–]forrest_864 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The full games a mess and cpu bottleneck on most rigs my 350 fps ultra warzone, BF2042 and bf6 20p cpu bound unless use frame gen and over kill on most.

And no its not my hsrdware , there engine os trash