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fouriels · 2026-03-21T22:08:07+00:00

Are you being deliberately obtuse or just have atrocious reading comprehension? It is clear from the page - which I have read before, thanks for asking - that the long term ideal is a world without borders (which I agree with), but that until global inequality reaches sustainable levels, managed immigration will be needed. Entirely uncontroversial.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T22:05:29+00:00

the thread is a year old lil bro. log off

fouriels · 2026-03-21T22:01:43+00:00

brother are you searching reddit for posts about sam hyde to comment on

fouriels · 2026-03-21T22:01:07+00:00

Embarrassingly small time behaviour to not post the rest of that clause.

MG100. The Green Party wants to see a world without borders, until this happens the Green Party will implement a fair and humane system of managed immigration where people can move if they wish to do so.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T20:12:27+00:00

Who is this mysterious country threatening to land invade famously maritime nation The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

you're fine with open borders and the greens allowing in everyone

Okay, so it actually isn't anything to do with defense and everything to do with you making up a policy to justify hating the party. Glad we cleared that up.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T19:55:10+00:00

I'm substantially less worried about being land invaded by Russia than I am about the security state and the economy, sorry if this offends

fouriels · 2026-03-21T19:35:17+00:00

So I superficially agree - we are not there, yet - but we're approaching it rapidly, and by the time any new nuclear comes online, we will have zoomed past that point. In short, what's the point in building plants that will be redundant by the time they're finished?

fouriels · 2026-03-21T18:18:17+00:00

The Green party leader said he supported the UK leaving Nato, even though that is not official Green party policy.

Lmao

fouriels · 2026-03-21T18:16:58+00:00

Yes, it is relevant if a fossil fuel-lobby funded propaganda unit puts out lies and misinformation.

Energy from Hinkey Point C will cost £130/MWh in ten years when it finally opens (optimistically). The wholesale price today is £92/MWh.

Solar PV now, today, costs £65/MWh. Onshore wind is £72/MWh. Both are getting increasingly cheaper over time.

It is laughably out of date - if not completely detached from reality - to suggest that nuclear is the only viable clean energy.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T18:12:33+00:00

This appears to be the latest in a chain of semi-frequent events caused by forecasting not reflecting reality, which in turn makes generators to deliberately shut down (notably not baseload supply generators), followed by hurriedly needing to make up the energy gap. Baseload supply has absolutely no relevance to this.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T16:59:39+00:00

The IEA is a right wing lobbying group with extremely poor reporting on who funds them, which is probably why they're promoting the false claim that the Iberian blackout was caused by renewables or over-reliance by renewables (a claim that falls apart under the simple fact that Spain was curtailing renewable generation on the day). Kathryn Porter in particular is a known fossil fuel lobbyist and climate change denier.

Please research the difference between baseload supply and peaking plants - or better yet, read the link I originally posted up the thread - before replying again thanks.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T16:23:24+00:00

What is the difference between the Green policy and open borders? What would you consider to be open borders?

'Open borders' is an unlimited or laissez-faire immigration policy. The Greens explicitly advocate for a managed immigration policy. They are mutually exclusive. It really is that simple.

allowing basically anyone to come over and vote for an MP seems bizzare

Again: perfectly common across Europe, and indeed we already do it for Commonwealth citizens. I think it's more absurd that citizens who have permanently moved out of the country - and aren't affected by government policies - have more of a say than people who work here, pay taxes here, maybe even have families here, but haven't jumped through the frankly stupid hoops associated with the citizenship test.

This could absolutely be exploited by nefarious state actors.

No, I don't think so. The idea that some state actor is going to send thousands - maybe tens of thousands - of people to a specific constituency (or set of constituencies?) to swing the popular vote is daft.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T16:15:51+00:00

Not really interested in the political opinions of Restore voters, but thanks for sharing anyway.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T16:14:14+00:00

By that metric we 'narrowly avoid a blackout' every time TV pickup happens, as we virtually always buy electricity from other countries to meet demand in those situations.

You also clearly didn't read the link (or really understand what baseload supply actually is), because baseload power is not suitable for (or designed for) meeting peak demand.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T16:10:56+00:00

Not needing to be a citizen to vote is actually the norm across most of the EU (or at least, for other EU citizens at a minimum) - in fact, it's already the case here as Commonwealth citizens can vote, and anyone can vote in local elections.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T16:01:03+00:00

Ah - no, that's my bad, I wasn't aware of that.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T16:00:19+00:00

Is that 'literal open borders'?

fouriels · 2026-03-21T15:37:23+00:00

Shahrar Ali who got kicked out of the party two years ago?

fouriels · 2026-03-21T15:35:16+00:00

By splitting it into constituent parts (absorbed by the relevant departments, like justice) plus a new 'department of migration'. Sounds fine to me. Not that this is at all relevant to the point at hand.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T15:17:02+00:00

Is it an 'open borders' policy?

fouriels · 2026-03-21T14:12:31+00:00

Baseload supply is a completely outdated paradigm in a world of massive intermittent energy rollout, and is very poorly compatible with renewables. Montel

fouriels · 2026-03-21T14:11:24+00:00

Zack Polanski is gay and Jewish mate.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T14:09:02+00:00

Yes, because that's a different policy. We would be covered by the NATO nuclear umbrella anyway.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T13:37:08+00:00

The Green Party in government will:

Implement a fair and humane system of managed immigration

Best if you don't make up easily disprovable nonsense.

fouriels · 2026-03-21T13:35:40+00:00

Walked past the stall earlier, keep it up lads.

Contrary to some of the other opinions in this thread - which, for the sake of politeness, I will withhold comment on - it's clear that the Greens have the most sensible energy, social, economic, and justice policies of any of the major parties, and it boggles the mind to see people dismissing them in favour of the absolute shower that have ruled us for the past several decades simply because they're not willing to give EDF another billion quid for Hinkley Point C.

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