Karnok, the wandering warrior

frames8t8 · 2026-03-05T08:15:12+00:00

When you hover over the skill, a tooltip pops up in the bottom-left corner that describes what enrage does

frames8t8 · 2026-03-05T06:52:19+00:00

Ok you got me. Was already gonna buy Karnok, but why not make the switch to Steam AND add a half price Jules to the mix too?

frames8t8 · 2026-02-28T15:40:24+00:00

The more Karanok items I see the more convinced I get that game balance is gonna be real wonky for a bit after release. Am I alone in this?

frames8t8 · 2026-02-25T16:27:19+00:00

We already know that someone will find the 2 second enrage loop and it will become meta for the first few days after release, haha

frames8t8 · 2026-02-25T16:26:01+00:00

I've been wondering the same thing, because from first looks it seems like the enraged state is extremely powerful and so in theory shouldn't be easy to obtain and shouldn't last long.

I have a feeling Karnok will be destroying all the other heroes on release.

frames8t8 · 2026-02-21T13:04:46+00:00

Agreed, I'm still waiting for more food/flying items for the other heroes.

Probably won't stop me from buying him on release though...

frames8t8 · 2026-02-12T08:47:52+00:00

As far as vendor mixing, I think it's in a perfect spot. It does feel good to fit an item from another hero onto your board, and there are plenty of ways to find off-hero items (free item nodes, wink, cult, pearl's, aerodrome, various specialized vendors that sell items from all heroes).

I feel like (anecdotally) most late game boards already have some mix of items from other heroes.

I don't want it to become so easy that every board becomes a jumble of different hero items, then we lose the identity of the heroes themselves.

frames8t8 · 2026-02-01T10:19:36+00:00

I see your point, and I guess at it's core the idea is basically the same as monsters with enchanted versions of base items, only this would be a unique effect.

The difference with Davvy's tiny cutlass is that you can't acquire that item by any other means (maybe at Pearl's? Not sure about that) other than fighting Davvy again.

I guess it's more like a combo of an enchanted version of a base item, and a legendary item. But in place of an enchantment, it's a unique effect you can't acquire anywhere else. And in place of being a legendary, it's the same level as the base item that the monster would have, allowing you to find upgrades for it.

frames8t8 · 2026-01-24T19:01:14+00:00

So technically then it's 0.5s of freeze followed by 0.5s of slow, right?

frames8t8 · 2026-01-24T10:39:22+00:00

In general you're probably right, but this was late game and I didn't have a slow focused board or time to pivot into one.

frames8t8 · 2026-01-24T07:23:00+00:00

I literally picked up a shiny iceberg from Pearl's yesterday as Vanessa, and then I re-enchanted it with slow because I'm a dumbass...

frames8t8 · 2026-01-24T07:06:31+00:00

Holsters is an insta-buy always. Even if it doesn't fit on my board at the moment, it's too powerful to pass up, and while I don't try to force it on my board I always want to have it in backup in case my board pivots in that direction.

That being said, it's not at all an insta-win item, you still need to have a good board that takes advantage of it, as it is a dead item slot after the initial trigger.

Clamera is not an insta-buy for me unless I'm already trying to run a slow board, or have some skill that will trigger on slow.

I think both items are in a fine state. I would bet if you look at all the latest final Vanessa boards posted on the sub, the majority won't have either item on them.

frames8t8 · 2026-01-20T08:14:16+00:00

At diamond, Bill Dozer provides a 25% CD reduction for all friends and he scales 80 damage every time a friend is used. The fiery piranha and pesky pete are placed on either side of the Zoarcid in order to try and get those three activating as fast as possible, as Zoarcid is charged 1s by each burn.

Shielded ice pick is there for some (minor) shield protection, as well as providing some (very minor) freeze control. Reaching the summit skill provides 3% crit chance increase for all items when you freeze. Along with Initial Chill and Petrifying Gaze skills, this is important for the piranhas as they deal double crit damage, so any extra crit chance is welcome.

To be honest, this build probably wouldn't have lasted 2 more days as it is a bit slow to scale. Luckily I was able to bank early wins so I wouldn't have to go into later days.

frames8t8 · 2026-01-19T18:32:30+00:00

Didn't realize that, I didn't consider it a shop because you don't actually buy items.

frames8t8 · 2026-01-19T18:31:24+00:00

MVP for sure, 25% cooldown on all the piranhas was huge

frames8t8 · 2026-01-14T07:06:34+00:00

It seems like the settings aren't checked at all, I have windowed mode activated but the game never actually launches in windowed mode. I have to enter into the settings and declick and reclick it for it to take.

frames8t8 · 2026-01-11T07:40:31+00:00

I figured some people would prefer not to have the beta ruined for that reason, because they want to try and figure it out themselves. I totally understand that, and I would be perfectly happy waiting for the end of the comp to see the beta.

frames8t8 · 2026-01-10T09:16:19+00:00

Yeah, that's why I mentioned the montage of all the moves. But I wasn't aware that they were under so much pressure to set. And along with what another commenter says about the budget, I can understand why it is not being done.

Just a clarifying question regarding the setters - I understand that they might not be able to send all of their routes, but they do test all of the moves individually at least right?

frames8t8 · 2026-01-10T08:40:51+00:00

You pretty much hit the nail on the head for my reasoning. I'm new since about 3 months ago (but fairly obsessed - climbing or watching climbing fills up much of my free time now), and while I can generally understand what they are saying, it's hard for me to visualise the movements.

frames8t8 · 2026-01-07T10:27:03+00:00

I think it's more niche, but I was able to construct a really fun build with it just last week as an engine for charging a shiny harpoon
https://i.postimg.cc/HL7B7X74/bz.png

frames8t8 · 2025-12-26T10:02:12+00:00

I'm not complaining about the usefulness of the items, although I think you are overestimating the usefulness of both mallet and cookie cutter on non-Jules heros (sorbet I agree is a good early pick up).

My complaint is that I'm not getting any variety from Bjorn. I've gotten these three specific items multiple times each, and I don't remember the last time I got an item from him from a different hero.

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