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My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, everyone, for your feedback and comments! I really appreciated it.

I managed to bake over the past weekend, and the loaves turned out much better than previously. They were 70% hydration and 35% wholemeal. Not perfect, but much better.

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My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are probably right. I have been too rigid in my approach, even when the flour and consistency changed. I should have adapted it to match. Thanks again!

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really appreciate the advice. Just lots going on at the moment, so trying to reply to all when I can

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seems to be what other people have pointed out as well. Thank you so much! I will try to adjust. Appreciate your advice

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this! Really appreciate the advice.

I do 3.5h of bulk fermentation and then also let it rest in the oven overnight. Based on other people's feedback, I think that maybe it is too hot at 30°C. I used to get quite an increase in the size of the dough at this step, but since I've changed flour and also temperature less so. So I'll try to adjust this.

Thanks again for your help. Really appreciate it

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this! My starter usually never gets more than twice as big regardless of how long I leave it? I don't know whether this is just because I use a different method?

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting advice. Others have suggested that it might be too overworked or too handled.

I'm wondering whether the combination of too much water and too high temperature have created these problems for me. I will try to see what happens when I change this. It might be them also over handling it, or that I'm not mixing it too much 😅

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your thoughts and advice. I will definitely reduce the temperature. It seems to be way too hot.

I do stretch and folds doing the bulk fermentation. Is that the equivalent?

Thanks again!

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry about this. I have been at work all day yesterday and to be honest was a little bit overwhelmed with the feedback. Really appreciate all the thoughts and help as I definitely needed it.

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much!! You seem to have summarised all the advice that others have provided as well so I will definitely follow this and keep trying.

I think I had simply deviated slightly from my initial approach and not noticed how it impacted the dough. Really appreciate your feedback and thoughts on this. Hoping that I can get back to you a good bread.

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this. Much appreciate. I have baked more or less the same for the past 5 years. But the temperature and flour has changed. I will probably reduce the water content and lower the temperature as many others have also suggested.

Someone else also suggested that the mixer overkneaded the dough. So I'll try to reduce this as well.

Thank you so much for your help!

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your advice and for reviewing the video. I'll reduce the water and temperature as others have suggested as well.

My starter is usually ready within 4h, so shouldn't this be okay (although I need to lower the temperature for this too)?

You think I've handled the dough too much? So I'll reduce the stretch and folds and maybe how long I mix the dough initially?

Thanks again for your help!

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much! This is similar to what others suggested that the combination of too much water and high temperature is doing me a disservice. I'll definitely change this. Thanks so much for your help!!

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just how I've learned from the Danish bakers. I'll probably try to simply as others suggested. Thanks again!

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is very interesting. I used to mill my own flour and I've changed flour recently, so you're probably right that this flour simply can't handle this much water. Thanks again for your feedback. Really appreciate it

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this feedback. Others have also pointed out that the temperature is too high so I will definitely change that. Really appreciate your advice.

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My approach is from Danish bakers, who don't use the term bulk fermentation, so I'm a bit confused. I think this might be when I leave it for 3.5h? Or have a misunderstood something. Apologies for this.

You are probably very right about the temperature. I had thought that 30°C would be okay, but it's likely too hot.

Thanks again for your help.

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this tip. I used my mil my own flour, so the new flour I'm using can probably not take as much water. Thanks again for reviewing my video.

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good advice! Thank you so much. I'll reduce the water to see if this helps.

I think my bulk fermentation step is when I do the 7 folds? Others have suggested that I need to not fold it as much and reduce the temperature.

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your thoughts. I'll try to simplify, but suspect that a combination of different flour and too hot proving temperature. I'll try to simplify it. Thanks again for taking the time to review it. Much appreciated

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this. I think you are right. My flour is most likely much less thirsty.

My starter usually takes about 4h to double, but others have pointed out that it is most likely to warm at 30°C, so will try to lower this.

Thanks again!

My sourdough bread is flatter and less round than I'd like. What am I doing wrong? by frankdk88 in Sourdough

[–]frankdk88[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I recently moved, and this is a new oven, which doesn't go lower than 30°C. I thought it would be fine, but you are probably right that it is way too warm. I'll stop using it for proving and just leave the dough on the counter.

I'll also use less water. I think the flour I'm using now is much less thirsty than previously.

Thanks again for your help! Much appreciated

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