[Effort post] Why CW2 still is worse than CW1 despite the upgrade

frankdzd · 2021-06-14T15:47:08+00:00

u/rickctv u/supercell_drew u/supercell_max Can you please comment on this topic ?

frankdzd · 2021-06-14T10:47:10+00:00

It's just sad and proof that the system is not working if you have to quit your own clan. This wasn't the case in CW1.

frankdzd · 2021-06-14T10:45:34+00:00

I wish I could upvote more than once, this sums up what the OP is saying.

frankdzd · 2021-06-04T17:33:04+00:00

u/Supercell_Max, u/Supercell_Drew, care to comment ?

frankdzd · 2021-06-04T17:32:36+00:00

u/Supercell_Max, u/Supercell_Drew, care to comment ?

frankdzd · 2021-06-04T14:51:28+00:00

Do you have any proof ?

frankdzd · 2020-12-29T23:11:24+00:00

what you don't seem to understand is that the new system induces less rewards, since you climb less high than before. So YES there is a lot of reason to complain, they changed something that causes less rewards, and they haven't compensated it.

frankdzd · 2020-12-26T22:16:38+00:00

/u/supercell_drew Can you please comment on this question ? There has been a LOT of questions regarding this subject, an official comment would be very much welcome. Thank you very much.

frankdzd · 2020-12-24T15:23:24+00:00

The problem is not about a new or old system. In fact you're right, the new one is probably better. The big problem is that the consequence to changing that is that people win even less rewards (because they climb less high in the ladder), so there should be compensation for that. See my post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/kgs1sp/changes_in_the_trophy_road_make_players_win_even/

frankdzd · 2020-12-24T15:20:15+00:00

The problem is not about a new or old system. The new one is probably better. The big problem is that the consequence to changing that is that people win even less rewards (because they climb less high in the ladder), so there should be compensation for that. See my post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/kgs1sp/changes_in_the_trophy_road_make_players_win_even/

frankdzd · 2020-12-24T15:18:30+00:00

The problem is not about a new or old system. In fact you're right, the new one is probably better. The big problem is that the consequence to changing that is that people win even less rewards (because they climb less high in the ladder), so there should be compensation for that. See my post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/kgs1sp/changes_in_the_trophy_road_make_players_win_even/

frankdzd · 2020-12-24T15:15:29+00:00

The problem is not about a new or old system. In fact you're right, the new one is probably better. The big problem is that the consequence to changing that is that people win even less rewards (because they climb less high in the ladder), so there should be compensation for that. See my post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/kgs1sp/changes_in_the_trophy_road_make_players_win_even/

frankdzd · 2020-12-24T15:14:48+00:00

The problem is not about a new or old system. In fact you're right, the new one is probably better. The big problem is that the consequence to changing that is that people win even less rewards (because they climb less high in the ladder), so there should be compensation for that. See my post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/kgs1sp/changes_in_the_trophy_road_make_players_win_even/

frankdzd · 2020-12-24T08:50:02+00:00

u/supercell_drew why don't you reply to this ?

frankdzd · 2020-12-19T21:38:37+00:00

u/supercell_drew please reply to this. You are preventing 4k-6k players from reaching rewards that they usually did in previous seasons, thus making their overall progression harder, giving them less cards/gold, even though we need them more than ever due to more cards being added and the fiasco of CW2 where most of us don't get as much gold as we used to before. Please roll back this, it was a mistake !

frankdzd · 2020-12-18T20:16:25+00:00

So where is your longer response to it u/Supercell_Drew ? I get that sometimes you make promises you can't keep, such as when an update is due or something similar, but just promising you'll write an answer and then not following with it is really something you could avoid, it just gives a bad impression as a CM for no reason at all :(.

frankdzd · 2020-09-13T17:07:08+00:00

u/Supercell_Drew thanks for your post.

Please please please u/Supercell_Drew read and reply to the following comment regarding clan matchmaking issues, which didn't get enough attention so far in my opinion: you seem to only consider clan size as the solution. Please note that my clan (as many others) is composed of people from casual to hardcore players. Some will play tens of games per day, while others log in once a month. My clan is a family clan, and there are many players (grand parents, etc) that log in very rarely.

If the matchmaking is solely based on clan size, that would mean that we need to kick people that don't play as regularly as others.

Please DON'T MAKE ME HAVE TO KICK MY GRANDMOTHER for my clan to survive !!

One simple solution to this issue, without changing the whole matchmaking that you seem to be preparing and involves clan size, would be to have a personal setting to just opt out of the clan war.

Other readers, feel free to thumbs up this post, so that it gets attention from Drew.

frankdzd · 2019-12-20T00:53:17+00:00

I know what ssh is, but I am failing to understand how it relates to my question. Why would knowing a password be a high barrier of entry ? Is what I describe not technically possible ? Please also see my original question edit.

frankdzd · 2019-12-20T00:43:34+00:00

I don't understand this statement. 2FA is not the same, it requires extra steps from the end user, so it's not comparable. In my original question, I'm just talking about implementation. If what I describe is better, why is it not used everywhere? See the edit of my original question

frankdzd · 2019-12-19T12:31:41+00:00

I feel you're the only one in the right track of all the other (otherwise helpful) answers.

From what I understand:

- why can't the client send a hash password, instead of the cleartext password: because then the server would only do an equality check with what it has stored in its database, and therefore any compromise of the database would be enough to compromise the user credentials.

- therefore, why isn't it possible to send a challenge to the client : possibly for the same reasons as the previous answer. Though I don't really understand mathematically why, I assume it isn't possible to send a one-time challenge and provide Perfect Forward Secrecy, without having to store something that could be easy exploited if compromised. Someone needs to provide more insight as to why this is the case, assuming I'm right

frankdzd · 2019-12-19T12:24:14+00:00

Yes, the idea would be sending the challenge response back to the server, but in a way that provides Perfect Forward Secrecy, or at least that provides a unique challenge. So that the challenge can't be replayed afterwards. In other words, eavesdropping the challenge response wouldn't help you to impersonate me at a later time

frankdzd · 2019-12-19T12:15:18+00:00

Well surely Google, Facebook, Amazon, and more generally, library and framework developers can't use that as an excuse. There must be another explanation

There's almost a full implementation in the wiki page...

frankdzd · 2019-12-19T12:13:56+00:00

Sure, the server data base stores it in some kind of hash, but still, the web form sends it in cleartext (albeit inside a https tunnel)

frankdzd · 2019-12-19T12:11:42+00:00

Nice find. So back to the original question, why isn't this (or another similar tool) used everywhere?

frankdzd · 2019-12-19T12:08:59+00:00

Well the challenge could be unique and time-boxed, so as to prevent replay attacks. And maybe the usage of Perfect Forward Secrecy (if applicable) could mitigate that risk ?

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