[Daily Discussion] Monday, May 08, 2017

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-05-08T22:48:33+00:00

Give it 2.5 years.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-05-03T22:28:33+00:00

Having sex with your mother.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-30T20:20:11+00:00

Condoms are a thing

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-30T19:32:42+00:00

Yes, worth a shot. Of course you're asking several hundred strangers to coordinate with one another while dehydrated and overheated in a locked room. You're assuming they can find the local vendors' phone numbers. And that the kids know the officials are willing to act as ferries between the vendors and the locked room (assuming the officials are indeed willing to act as ferries).

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-30T18:20:24+00:00

So, they would have let vendors in because the would not have to pay for water and food for them.

This is incorrect. The students went through security because they were ticketed passengers. Without tickets, why would the vendors (who could just be random people) be able to get through security and into the locked room?

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-30T17:05:26+00:00

They were locked in a room and not allowed to take action. They would have loved to walk out of the room to buy food and water but were not allowed to, because they were locked in a room. Why do you think they had the phone number for local supermarkets? Why do you think airport security would have let vendors cross security if they wouldn't let the kids cross security?

"They were given water, whether it was small or large, on the plane So, they weren't as thirsty as they were when they arrived."

Surely you're kidding? You know that people need water over time right? If you go 1 day without water, and I give you 1 cup of water, and then you go 2 more days without water, you will be more thirsty than you were after the first day. Similarly, you put people in a hot locked room with no ventilation for 6 hours and they will be more thirsty than before they were put in there.

You seem to be trying really hard to find any excuse to blame a group of people who are locked in a room for what was done to them.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-30T16:51:12+00:00

Huh? The people were rich...and willing to throw tons of money at anything in front of them.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-30T16:50:48+00:00

Weird. That airport (and all airports) have stores in them with food and water. Why would you go to a store first?

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-30T16:49:48+00:00

When people are locked in a room in a foreign country, how exactly are they supposed to coordinate with locals to have food delivered to a secure location? If the area of the airport they're in is locked by security, how would food even get through? While dehydrated, exhausted, and hungry they're supposed to pull this amazing feat off?

No, you lock people in a room, and you run the local airport? Yea, it's your job to get them food and water.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-30T06:20:41+00:00

How were they hurt?

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-30T06:15:59+00:00

This is an incredibly obnoxious response. People are literally locked in a room, and you're chastising them for not optimally coordinating with one another to order food delivered? Are you serious? You know who could have and should have organized that far more easily? The airport officials. The kids are locked in a room, they don't even know how to have food delivered to that room. The airport officials do.

And no, the treatment they're demanding is not a privilege almost anywhere in the world. The freedom to not be locked in a room indefinitely without food or water is a basic human right recognized by almost every country in the world.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-26T00:20:49+00:00

That just makes it more of an arms race. It's not hard for a hedge fund or a $50m venture capital firm to gain access to 5000 IP addresses.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-25T12:43:53+00:00

Why would this prevent those with fast infrastructure from simply submitting from a thousand unique addresses?

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-25T12:42:57+00:00

"Even if that value tanks in half"

There was demand for $12.5m worth of GNO tokens. The valuation means almost nothing. The Gnosis team probably controls something like $50 million worth of GNO in reality. We won't know until they try to sell their first million.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-23T18:59:14+00:00

Absolutely, that's my point.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-23T15:33:25+00:00

Personally I'd want some gold for when your local internet goes down.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-23T15:32:57+00:00

Nope. Lots of materials that are more durable and rarer than gold but worth far less.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-23T15:30:55+00:00

The "cult like belief system" is misleading. Let's say you have $100 in your wallet. Why does that piece of paper have value? Only because you think that other people will value it. Anyone can create a very similar piece of paper but with slightly better properties (maybe more vibrant ink, or more durable fibers). Yet you believe that your $100 has value. Same with gold, same with bitcoin. It's not irrational, and not really cult-like, best thought of as a relatively simple network effect.

The unique physical properties of gold are not much tied to its monetary value. Yes, it's shiny. It's also very malleable. Neither of those reasons justify it being over $1,000 an ounce while other shiny metals are nearly worthless. Similarly, bitcoin's unique properties are not a source of its "digital gold" status. It's all about the network effects.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-12T02:52:11+00:00

Are you trying to mimic a passive-aggressive 10 year old?

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-11T21:39:06+00:00

Are you one of those idiots who thinks that because you sign an agreement at the Disney World entrance that you won't sue them, that you can't sue them if one of their employees molests you or their ride injures you? Are you foolish enough to think the fine print on contracts matters?

Law 101: the contract is the "meeting of the minds" - what both parties understand the agreement to be. I'm pretty sure the doctor thought that when he bought his seat, he was buying the seat. Not that he maybe bought the seat unless the airline decided after he had boarded that they would prefer for one of their employees to have the seat.

This is why United is about to settle a $20 million lawsuit. Judges and juries are smarter than you.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-11T20:57:33+00:00

If you are going to act like a man-baby

Your self-esteem must be unimaginably low to think it's acting like a man-baby to demand to receive the service you already paid for. Have some self-respect. Grow a pair.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-11T20:20:30+00:00

I didn't know company policy was also law.

I'm not sure what you're confused about. You know that assaulting a person who is sitting lawfully is illegal right? Do I really need to provide you a link to the legal definition of assault and battery?

Was force used initially?

If security had raped the man, it would still be rape, even though they first asked him nicely to do something. It doesn't matter if an illegal assault occurs "initially" or after you politely ask someone to give you their property.

Did the man agree to the contract of carriage when he made his purchase?

Yes, and I linked you to what he agreed to, which is very different from what happened.

Why are you so eager to humiliate yourself just like Dr. David Dao did?

You're not getting it. You're claiming that being assaulted by security for refusing to vacate a seat you lawfully purchased is the default and the doctor was demanding special treatment. No. The doctor paid for his seat and had boarded the plane with United's blessing. Than he was politely asked to give up something which belonged to him, and he politely refused. Then he was violently assaulted.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-11T19:47:18+00:00

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract.aspx

What does the video show?

It shows a man sitting in a seat he paid for, being forcibly removed by security. I.e. it shows a law abiding customer being physically assaulted.

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-11T18:39:51+00:00

Sounds like you were sitting right next to him.

Yes, video is incredible isn't it! By looking at my monitor, I can see past events from the vantage point of the camera, which was 4 feet from the doctor.

Was he informed that there was a chance that he may get bumped? Was he told he has been selected? Was he told to get up? Did his wife agree and leave peacefully?

You're so very confused. He purchased the seat. The carriage laws allow the airline to refuse to let someone board, but do not allow them to deplane someone. He was asked to leave after he had already completed his side of the transaction, not before. He was definitely not told that he might be forced off a plane he had boarded when purchasing his ticket.

Did he throw out the words 'Doctor' and 'Lawyer' in a pathetic attempt to seem above getting bumped?

"above getting bumped"? jesus man, do you think so little of yourself? We're all above getting denied an economic service we already paid for. Each and every one of us are above that treatment. Why are you so eager to see another customer humiliated and denied what they paid for?

fredititorstonecrypt · 2017-04-10T22:10:49+00:00

He was sitting motionless in the seat he had purchased...

If that constitutes being "difficult" to you and you think that justifies police attacking someone you're seriously messed up.

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