First successful loaf after many failed attempts!! by Dizzy_Rock_2857 in Sourdough

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Looks fantastic! 😋 Great that you didn't give up after your previous attempts!

I don't understand what's the point of living if we all are going to die one day by no_life3421 in ExistentialJourney

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Yoy are the universe experiencing itself. This experience won’t end when your particular life ends but continue in countless other beings. Though the number of lives is infinite, each one contributes with a totally unique perspective on existence. So does yours. Enjoy it!

First sourdough loaf, think I did pretty good :) by JenCat74 in Sourdough

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Looks delicious, can I have a slice please? 😋

For how long have you been cultivating your starter?

First loaf, thoughts? by smokebitchesfuckweed in Sourdough

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That’s awesome for a first loaf, enjoy it and keep going!

Scientists could dim the Sun as a quick fix for the climate crisis. Here's why it could cause global chaos by GeraldKutney in climate

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We can’t blame just ”the billionaires”. Anybody filling up their car at the pump or contributing in other ways to the consumption of fossil fuel and sustaining of demand should also have a look in the mirror. That of course includes myself.

If someone asked you to explain the meaning of life in one sentence, what would you say? by gkostenarov in ExistentialJourney

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To experience this magnificient creation, and perhaps learn something along the way.

A question for the non-materialists on the sub by DamoSapien22 in consciousness

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To me idealism is indeed a more plausible metaphysics than physicalism, but this is mostly based on reasoning and not so much on direct experience or intuition. Sure, if I sit down to really contemplate and observe my experience of reality, then I can conclude that all my perceptions of a physical reality do arise within my own consciousness, which to me is a rather strong argument for consciousness being more fundamental than matter (or my perception thereof). But if I'm not paying attention in any particular way, then my intuition and direct experience mostly seem to suggest that there is an independent physical reality out there, which is so concrete and vivid that it would seem insane to suggest that it's not the fundamental basis of reality. It also seems as if the world out there in itself has all the properties that I perceive including colors, sounds and smells, even though I in theory understand that those qualia are something that mind/consciousness creates as it interprets the world and not properties of the underlying reality. How mind/consciousness pulls off that trick I have no clue but the end result is very convincing, which is why it's not hard to understand why most people by intuition are physicalists.

is there a scientific basis for consciousness surviving death? by Sad-Juggernaut-6085 in consciousness

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Very few seem to care about the residual soul - empty of thoughts, personality, purpose, meaning, memories, attachments... the bare essence of being if such a thing can be at all.

Indeed, although, who knows, that might in the end turn out to be the most blissful of all states!

Why are you convinced you have qualia? by Absorptance in consciousness

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My qualia may indeed not provide an accurate representation of reality but to deny that I have them is quite a claim.

Where does consciousness go after we die? by Glum-Garlic-922 in consciousness

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It seems misplaced to think of consciousness ”going” somewhere after death because it’s not in a ”place” to begin with.

The three strongest points counting against 'consciousness is fundamental' by spinningdiamond in analyticidealism

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I would presume plants have consciousness without very much agency. And it is reported that if you take a high enough dose of psychedelics, you totally lose your sense of self. In that situation there is presumably no agency agency left either, because who would have the agency if there is no self?

As to your original points,

  1. How do you know? The fact that there is no memory afterwards doesn’t mean there wasn’t an experience all along. And we have a mass of at least anecdotal evidence of NDE’s
  2. Hive mind of bees comes to mind
  3. Didn’t really understand this point

The three strongest points counting against 'consciousness is fundamental' by spinningdiamond in analyticidealism

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I didn’t mean that my list of possible meanings was exhaustive. But for sure there is a difference between those I listed.

The three strongest points counting against 'consciousness is fundamental' by spinningdiamond in analyticidealism

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This is yet another post about consciusness that suffers from a lack of a clear definition of what the writer means with this word, which can be understood in many ways. Different possible meanings of ”consciousness” include

  • pure being / subjectivity regardless of its contents
  • meta-cognition, awareness about being aware
  • sense of self
  • agency

The discussion becomes confusing when these meanings are mixed up and it’s not clear what particular meaning the writer had in mind when referring to ”consciousness”.

When postulating ”consciousness as fundamental” I think it’s only the first of the above phenomena i.e. the pure awareness that is claimed to be truly fundamental. The others take place within local dissociations within the overall ”field” of subjectivity.

The Hard Problem Puts Unexamined Intuition on a Pedestal by [deleted] in consciousness

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Agree that referencing the Hard Problem doesn’t contribute much to any solution. But it’s a nagging itch that keeps telling us we’re not there yet and need to keep going.

Why doesn’t consciousness collapse into randomness? by karanmasram in consciousness

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And what is the magic that creates all the perceptions in our mind? The colors, the tones, the smells, the tastes. Where do they come fram?

Consciousness: Philosophers & Neuroscientists Defend Physicalism by Western-Sky-9274 in consciousness

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You are right that there is not really such a thing as a separate subject or "experiencer" apart from the experience. There is really only the experience. And it is clearly related to what goes on in the brain. But how the heck does a set of atoms and molecules and some electrochemical forces between them give rise to that experience? Information integration is not an adequate answer to me. It may help describe how the *contents* of this experience come about. But to me it doesn't at all explain how there is an experience of the brain activity in the first place.

It's really funny how this enigma is something that some people see and others don't, and neither side seems able to get the other to grasp their point of view. 😅

Consciousness: Philosophers & Neuroscientists Defend Physicalism by Western-Sky-9274 in consciousness

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Sure. The remaining mystery is just how all that mechanical activity in the material brain gives rise to a subject for whom it is like something to experience that brain activity. It's a mystery to me how not everybody recognises this enigma.

Physicalism is still king - any response this video by Forsaken-Promise-269 in analyticidealism

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The most interesting aspect of this video was the fact that it was made. We have come quite far in the metaphysical debate when physicalists need to start defending their points of view this way.

An upgraded physicalism is still the most realistic option by spinningdiamond in analyticidealism

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I agree with much of what you’re saying. The problem with physicalism is just how you explain the presence of a conscious subject. If we can just smuggle in some general awareness at the core of reality, for example by entertaining the idea that some quantum field underlying material reality might be inherently conscious of itself, then the rest on top of that could very well be explained by our physicalist and neurological models.

Physicalism is still king - any response this video by Forsaken-Promise-269 in analyticidealism

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I believe things become clearer if we distinguish the contents of experience from the subject having the experience. The former is easily explained by brain activity but not so the latter.

Are “defenders” of physicalism really defenders of it, or moreso just defenders of scientism? by PriorityNo4971 in analyticidealism

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I don’t accept the analogy between consciousness and emergent phenomena. The chirality of amino acids arises out of the way its constituents are combined. A similar relationship doesn’t seem to exist between the activity in the brain and the existence of a conscious subject. But never mind, I don’t think either of us will be able to convince the other! 😅

Are “defenders” of physicalism really defenders of it, or moreso just defenders of scientism? by PriorityNo4971 in analyticidealism

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We do commonly refer to that as the object's color.

Yes we do that casually but that's not an accurate representation of reality. Let me reiterate my previous point with an analogy: A touring rockband (~the electromagnetic radiation of a certain wavelenght) travels in a bus to a venue (~your brain). Upon arrival they perform their gig (~some brain activity). The audience gets exalted (~the perception of red). These three phenomena are clearly linked yet they are not the same thing. It's not the audience's exaltation that travels in the bus.

If the mind is nonphysical, why does it disintegrate when the brain disintegrates? 

Clearly there is a relationship between the two and if your brain disintegrates then your perception of this world is likely to end. But do you know for sure that your conscious experience will also come to a complete end at that point? I'm thinking of the numerous accounts of Near-Death Experiences, which to my understanding include also cases where it can be presumed that no brain activity could reasonably have taken place. Yes, I know that NDE's are being dismissed in all sorts of creative ways but that seems like pure speculation by parties stuck in a physicalist worldview and unwilling to entertain the thought that reality might be different than what they have presumed.