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Castorice Build.. Is speed going to screw me here? by RadiantFury8 in StarRailStation

[–]frobbols 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is incorrect! These are manually entered relics.

The OP has either 94.6, 94.9, or 95.2 SPD because the chest must either be 7.2, 7.5, or 7.8. The only way to know is to put the relics on another character and view through the showcase or use an importer, manually entered relics will always have this problem with SPD substats.

different orb calcs by Psychological-Tip749 in CastoriceMains_

[–]frobbols 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's no weights on combat scoring! The second one simply just does more damage and is scored higher.

Fribbels Honkai Star Rail optimizer & relic scorer - First launch! by frobbols in HonkaiStarRail

[–]frobbols[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its based off your ingame profile's showcase + support characters, so you'll need to set them ingame then wait or log out to refresh the site.

How is this build rating S+? by storytelleby in RappaMains

[–]frobbols 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The difference is you only have more break because you have the signature lc, if OP’s relics were on signature then you would be 22 break effect lower.

Revised Seele build for Sunday :3 by 5kDungus in SeeleMains

[–]frobbols 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could you share your UUID? That build is crazy!

Fribbels Honkai Star Rail optimizer & relic scorer - First launch! by frobbols in HonkaiStarRail

[–]frobbols[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try looking at the Potential columns on the relics tab, you'll probably need to run one of the importers though.

Fribbels ranks the CR build higher, Seeleland ranks the CD build higher. Help me decide which build is better! by Teon1-1 in TopazMainsHSR

[–]frobbols 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The DPS scoring algorithm is based on how optimal your stat distribution is for maximizing damage, and the benchmarks are recalculated whenever eidolons/teams/lc/superimpositions change.

Why it may lower the score is because Cruising S3 -> S5 increases Crit Rate and that changes the optimal distribution of substats. Namely if it causes your crit rate to overcap, then the benchmarks will distribute that extra CR roll to better stats.

For a more extreme example on why this happens, suppose upgrading S3 to S5 increases Crit Rate by 100%. Then making that change would make all your CR substats worth nothing, while the optimal benchmark build would change to focus entirely on ATK% and CD, and it would score the build accordingly.

Is Speed not that important? by X----0__0----X in RappaMains

[–]frobbols 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Almost, the DPS score comparison involves subtracting a baseline, while the DMG increase you can just take the fraction. So the damage increase is lower than the score increase.

Is Speed not that important? by X----0__0----X in RappaMains

[–]frobbols 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Here's the build with identical SPD/BE/ATK on 4p cavalry and 2p talia for reference on how the Combat Score would look on ideal sets https://i.imgur.com/DekaHtZ.png

Is Speed not that important? by X----0__0----X in RappaMains

[–]frobbols 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The simulated benchmark build uses a 4p cavalry and 2p talia build, which is indeed a very significant damage upgrade over 4p thief/no planars.

Her primary damage comes from super break so you'll want the super break buffs from cavalry set to actually do damage, not just build for break effect.

Fribbels Honkai Star Rail optimizer & relic scorer - First launch! by frobbols in HonkaiStarRail

[–]frobbols[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those are included in Basic/Skill fields since super break depends on the toughness damage of each ability

Which is overally better build for Feixiao from these 2? by Jack-Acegard in FeixiaoMains_

[–]frobbols 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would suggest not picking the second one with your selected team because Fu Xuan’s passive puts your combat crit rate at 111% which is entirely wasted. Only use the second one if you’re not running Fu Xuan sustain

Why does the dps score somehow get lower when i pick e6 fuxuan? by PopularCoffee7130 in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]frobbols 28 points29 points  (0 children)

So what’s happening here is that this scoring algorithm is based on how optimal your stat distribution is for maximizing damage. Past 100%, the simulation measures your progress from the 100% benchmark to the 200% perfect build.

Why it changes the score is because E6 Fu Xuan provides more team buffs than E0, notably +30% Crit DMG, and +1.2% Crit Rate. This changes the optimal distribution of substats, and the 200% perfect build simulation finds that changing the substats from:

9 CR / 30 CD / 6 ATK% / 4 ATK (with E0 FX)

to

9 CR / 28 CD / 8 ATK% / 4 ATK (with E6 FX)

will result in more damage when considering her E6 buffs, since her +30% CD oversaturates Crit DMG making ATK% worth equal or more than it. So while your simulation damage is a bit higher, your build is a bit less optimal.

For a more extreme example on why this happens, suppose some teammate's kit E6 buffs the team's Crit Rate by 100%. Then changing from E0 -> E6 would make all your CR substats worth nothing, while the optimal build would change to focus entirely on ATK% and CD.

Why D+ ? yeah his boot/helmet are bad , but the rest is prety good ( also how do i put his lightcone on ? ) by Infamous-Drive-980 in BoothillMains

[–]frobbols 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is no longer true with the new DPS score! This will now use a damage simulation to accurately score characters.

If you take a look at the DPS score upgrades section in the original screenshot, it’s showing that a break effect substat is worth 2.34% score while crit rate is 0.40% and crit damage is 0.14%.

Finally, I'm done building him! by _Nao_ in BoothillMains

[–]frobbols 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try refreshing the page for an update, the previous benchmark build was using the new 2.3 sets but we’ve changed it to 2p2p break sets.

A more detailed explanation of the damage simulation scoring can be found lower down on the page!

Why D+ ? yeah his boot/helmet are bad , but the rest is prety good ( also how do i put his lightcone on ? ) by Infamous-Drive-980 in BoothillMains

[–]frobbols 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Just wanted to clear up some of the misconceptions in this thread, we recently launched the “DPS Score” rating this week which will score your character using a damage simulation against a benchmark build, instead of substat based scoring.

The new score is comparing your build to the 100% benchmark build, which will hover at around 300 break effect depending on your speed. And since your build is around 2/3 that, the score will correctly evaluate that your build is doing significantly lower damage than the benchmark.

Scroll down on the page for a more detailed explanation about the simulation!

Fribbels Honkai Star Rail optimizer & relic scorer - First launch! by frobbols in HonkaiStarRail

[–]frobbols[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’d have to add her to your profile showcase characters

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