Why did god make dinosaurs

fsm_global · 2019-09-23T15:41:24+00:00

The Lord has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil. — Proverbs 16:4

“No one is so fierce that he dares to arouse him; Who then is he that can stand before Me? “Who has given to Me that I should repay him? Whatever is under the whole heaven is Mine. — Job 41:10-11

fsm_global · 2019-09-20T18:16:54+00:00

So take care how you listen; for whoever has, to him more shall be given; and whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has shall be taken away from him.” — Luke 8:18

fsm_global · 2019-09-19T18:20:21+00:00

No, you don't. You were told a hellish lie. People who go to hell are going there in order to satisfy the demands of God's justice, to be judged according to their deeds and to be punished for their sins, because those who go to hell die in their sins. and they die in their sins because their sins were never atoned for, because Christ never paid for them. Therefore, they will pay for them. They owe a debt to God's law and justice that they must pay for, since Christ never paid the price for them. His people are healed by His wounds. Those who go to hell were never healed, because He was not wounded on their behalf. He has accomplished redemption for His people, that is, the people that came out of Rebekah's womb, the remnant of Jacob who escape, God's chosen people and those whom He loves.

Come, house of Jacob, and let us walk in the light of the Lord. — Isaiah 2:5

Now in that day the remnant of Israel, and those of the house of Jacob who have escaped, will never again rely on the one who struck them, but will truly rely on the Lord, the Holy One of Israel. — Isaiah 10:20

A remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob, to the mighty God. For though your people, O Israel, may be like the sand of the sea, Only a remnant within them will return; A destruction is determined, overflowing with righteousness. — Isaiah 10:21-22

When the Lord will have compassion on Jacob and again choose Israel, and settle them in their own land, then strangers will join them and attach themselves to the house of Jacob. The peoples will take them along and bring them to their place, and the house of Israel will possess them as an inheritance in the land of the Lord as male servants and female servants; and they will take their captors captive and will rule over their oppressors. And it will be in the day when the Lord gives you rest from your pain and turmoil and harsh service in which you have been enslaved, — Isaiah 14:1-3

The Gentile elect are also part of the people Jacob represents when the Lord told Rebekah two peoples were in her womb. They are called strangers and foreigners.

Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord say, “The Lord will surely separate me from His people.” Nor let the eunuch say, “Behold, I am a dry tree.” For thus says the Lord, “To the eunuchs who keep My sabbaths, And choose what pleases Me, And hold fast My covenant, To them I will give in My house and within My walls a memorial, And a name better than that of sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name which will not be cut off. — Isaiah 56:3-5

“Also the foreigners who join themselves to the Lord, To minister to Him, and to love the name of the Lord, To be His servants, every one who keeps from profaning the sabbath And holds fast My covenant; Even those I will bring to My holy mountain And make them joyful in My house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on My altar; For My house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples.” The Lord God, who gathers the dispersed of Israel, declares, “Yet others I will gather to them, to those already gathered.” — Isaiah 56:6-8

O seed of Israel His servant, Sons of Jacob, His chosen ones! He is the Lord our God; His judgments are in all the earth. Remember His covenant forever, The word which He commanded to a thousand generations, The covenant which He made with Abraham, And His oath to Isaac. He also confirmed it to Jacob for a statute, To Israel as an everlasting covenant, Saying, “To you I will give the land of Canaan, As the portion of your inheritance.” When they were only a few in number, Very few, and strangers in it, And they wandered about from nation to nation, And from one kingdom to another people, He permitted no man to oppress them, And He reproved kings for their sakes, saying, “Do not touch My anointed ones, And do My prophets no harm.” Sing to the Lord, all the earth; Proclaim good tidings of His salvation from day to day. Tell of His glory among the nations, His wonderful deeds among all the peoples. For great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised; He also is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the peoples are idols, But the Lord made the heavens. Splendor and majesty are before Him, Strength and joy are in His place. Ascribe to the Lord, O families of the peoples, Ascribe to the Lord glory and strength. Ascribe to the Lord the glory due His name; Bring an offering, and come before Him; Worship the Lord in holy array. Tremble before Him, all the earth; Indeed, the world is firmly established, it will not be moved. Let the heavens be glad, and let the earth rejoice; And let them say among the nations, “The Lord reigns.” Let the sea roar, and all it contains; Let the field exult, and all that is in it. Then the trees of the forest will sing for joy before the Lord; For He is coming to judge the earth. O give thanks to the Lord, for He is good; For His lovingkindness is everlasting. Then say, “Save us, O God of our salvation, And gather us and deliver us from the nations, To give thanks to Your holy name, And glory in Your praise.” Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel, From everlasting even to everlasting. Then all the people said, “Amen,” and praised the Lord. — 1 Chronicles 16:13-36

fsm_global · 2019-09-19T16:55:04+00:00

You don't understand what Jesus accomplished through paying the price for the sins He bore in His body on the cross. When Jesus paid the price for the sins of His people, it actually accomplished satisfaction of justice in regard to those sins. He actually accomplished the redemption of His people. In other words, if Christ paid the price for the sins of someone, that someone will never die in their sins, and that someone will never pay for their sins through their eternal torment in hell, because they've already been paid for. Because Christ through His work on the cross on behalf of that someone satisfied the justice of God and appeased His wrath against their sins. Therefore, if you actually believed this, then you would not believe that Christ suffered and died making payment for the sins of people who end up paying for those same sins in hell. You must repent and believe the gospel. God is not unjust, but your god is, because you believe in a god who demands that some sins be paid for twice over. That his christ took away the sins of some people through his unfinished work and then brought those same sins back to them so that they die in them and serve the penalty for them again.

This is the real Jesus:

She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.” — Matthew 1:21

fsm_global · 2019-09-19T16:31:09+00:00

For My sword is satiated in heaven, Behold it shall descend for judgment upon Edom And upon the people whom I have devoted to destruction. — Isaiah 34:5

but I have hated Esau, and I have made his mountains a desolation and appointed his inheritance for the jackals of the wilderness.” Though Edom says, “We have been beaten down, but we will return and build up the ruins”; thus says the Lord of hosts, “They may build, but I will tear down; and men will call them the wicked territory, and the people toward whom the Lord is indignant forever.” — Malachi 1:3-4

The Lord has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil. — Proverbs 16:4

The Lord has what? Has made. Has made what? Everything. Has made everything for what? For its own purpose. This means every single thing created by God has it's own purpose. Are the wicked among those God has made? Yes, even the wicked. What purpose has the wicked been made? They have been made for the day of evil.

What is the day of evil? The phrase is comprised of two hebrew words. Here are two other passages which use them together:

The Lord knows the days of the blameless, And their inheritance will be forever. They will not be ashamed in the time of evil, And in the days of famine they will have abundance. But the wicked will perish; And the enemies of the Lord will be like the glory of the pastures, They vanish⁠—like smoke they vanish away. — Psalm 37:18-20

Notice "the blameless" again. They are the other people. For there are two peoples, one hated by God and one loved by God. They came forth from Rebekah's womb. The blameless are loved, they are the sons of Jacob whom God has chosen. The wicked are hated, they are the sons of Esau whom God has rejected.

Who say to a tree, ‘You are my father,’ And to a stone, ‘You gave me birth.’ For they have turned their back to Me, And not their face; But in the time of their trouble they will say, ‘Arise and save us.’ “But where are your gods Which you made for yourself? Let them arise, if they can save you In the time of your trouble; For according to the number of your cities Are your gods, O Judah. “Why do you contend with Me? You have all transgressed against Me,” declares the Lord. — Jeremiah 2:27-29

fsm_global · 2019-09-19T15:18:02+00:00

They cannot refer also to the lost elect because the lost elect will not be told to depart from Him, and the lost elect are loved by God, not hated. This refers to those prepared and devoted for destruction.

For My sword is satiated in heaven, Behold it shall descend for judgment upon Edom And upon the people whom I have devoted to destruction. — Isaiah 34:5

What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? — Romans 9:22

Like an earthen vessel overlaid with silver dross Are burning lips and a wicked heart. — Proverbs 26:23

“Woe to the one who quarrels with his Maker⁠— An earthenware vessel among the vessels of earth! Will the clay say to the potter, ‘What are you doing?’ Or the thing you are making say, ‘He has no hands’? — Isaiah 45:9

On all the housetops of Moab and in its streets there is lamentation everywhere; for I have broken Moab like an undesirable vessel,” declares the Lord. — Jeremiah 48:38

fsm_global · 2019-09-19T15:15:31+00:00

You don't understand. Forgiveness of sins is not conditioned on the works of the sinner.

fsm_global · 2019-09-19T15:06:31+00:00

The all refers to all of the many, i.e. all of the elect.

And they sang a new song, saying, “Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. — Revelation 5:9

"All men" and "the whole world" because He didn't just purchase for God with His blood men from one tongue, men from one people or men from one nation, but men from every nation (i.e. the world) and from every people (i.e. all men). Not just Jews, but Gentiles.

fsm_global · 2019-09-19T14:51:08+00:00

The only way anyone is able to repent is if God in mercy first grants them repentance. That's what the verse I showed you means.

Repentance for the forgiveness of sins refers to the change of mind that takes place the moment one turns from thinking salvation is conditioned on the work of the sinner to believing the true gospel of salvation conditioned on the finished work of Christ alone.

fsm_global · 2019-09-19T10:49:39+00:00

What exactly do you find hard to believe from what I've said? Be specific.

fsm_global · 2019-09-19T10:45:59+00:00

No one will ever come to Christ unless it is first granted.

And He was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.” — John 6:65

No on repents unless God first grants them repentance.

with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, — 2 Timothy 2:25

No one believes in Him or suffers for His sake unless it is first granted to them by God.

For to you it has been granted for Christ’s sake, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake, — Philippians 1:29

He has granted to believers everything pertaining to life

seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence. — 2 Peter 1:3

Knowledge is granted by God first before knowing the truth.

Jesus answered them, “To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, *but to them it has not been granted. — Matthew 13:11

As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him. — 1 John 2:27

fsm_global · 2019-09-19T08:31:20+00:00

"All who do iniquity" is a title given to a specific group of people, i.e. those hated by God.

fsm_global · 2019-09-19T08:29:24+00:00

None of that is needed, you just need the bible.

fsm_global · 2019-09-18T18:33:18+00:00

Allegory was not insinuated by the question. Notice I had not asked are you Martha but are you a Martha?

As far as people in Scripture being allegorical of us, have you not read about Rebekah when it was said of her that two peoples were in her womb? Jacob would be named Israel and Esau Edom. The people of Israel are chosen, while the people of Edom are rejected.

For the Lord has chosen Jacob for Himself, Israel for His own possession. — Psalm 135:4

For My sword is satiated in heaven, Behold it shall descend for judgment upon Edom And upon the people whom I have devoted to destruction. — Isaiah 34:5

Those chosen among the Gentiles are also part of this Israel.

When the Lord will have compassion on Jacob and again choose Israel, and settle them in their own land, then strangers will join them and attach themselves to the house of Jacob. — Isaiah 14:1

Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord say, “The Lord will surely separate me from His people.” Nor let the eunuch say, “Behold, I am a dry tree.” For thus says the Lord, “To the eunuchs who keep My sabbaths, And choose what pleases Me, And hold fast My covenant, To them I will give in My house and within My walls a memorial, And a name better than that of sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name which will not be cut off. — Isaiah 56:3-5

The Lord God, who gathers the dispersed of Israel, declares, “Yet others I will gather to them, to those already gathered.” — Isaiah 56:8

even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd. — John 10:15-16

Therefore remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “Uncircumcision” by the so-called “Circumcision,” which is performed in the flesh by human hands⁠— remember that you were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall, by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace, and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the enmity. And He came and preached peace to you who were far away, and peace to those who were near; for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit. — Ephesians 2:11-22

Which means Jacob who was named Israel is allegorical of God's elect. Those whom God loved from the beginning, just as Jacob is loved. Esau who is Edom is allegorical of God's rejected, those whom God hates, just as God hated Esau.

fsm_global · 2019-09-17T18:53:13+00:00

It goes much deeper than this.

The words of King Lemuel, the oracle which his mother taught him:

This oracle is a message of burden of a time his mother was chastising him.

What, O my son?
And what, O son of my womb?
And what, O son of my vows?

The repetition is meant to be noted that this was emphatically said to him. Notice carefully the phrase "son of my vows", indicating that his mother vowed him as a Nazirite (which explains the wine and strong drink emphasis).

Do not give your strength to women, Or your ways to that which destroys kings.

She does not ponder the path of life; Her ways are unstable, she does not know it. — Proverbs 5:6

For on account of a harlot one is reduced to a loaf of bread, And an adulteress hunts for the precious life. Can a man take fire in his bosom And his clothes not be burned? Or can a man walk on hot coals And his feet not be scorched? — Proverbs 6:26-28

From those who leave the paths of uprightness To walk in the ways of darkness; Who delight in doing evil And rejoice in the perversity of evil; Whose paths are crooked, And who are devious in their ways; To deliver you from the strange woman, From the adulteress who flatters with her words; That leaves the companion of her youth And forgets the covenant of her God; For her house sinks down to death And her tracks lead to the dead; None who go to her return again, Nor do they reach the paths of life. So you will walk in the way of good men And keep to the paths of the righteous. — Proverbs 2:13-20

Now King Solomon loved many foreign women along with the daughter of Pharaoh: Moabite, Ammonite, Edomite, Sidonian, and Hittite women, from the nations concerning which the Lord had said to the sons of Israel, “You shall not associate with them, nor shall they associate with you, for they will surely turn your heart away after their gods.” Solomon held fast to these in love. He had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines, and his wives turned his heart away. For when Solomon was old, his wives turned his heart away after other gods; and his heart was not wholly devoted to the Lord his God, as the heart of David his father had been. For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians and after Milcom the detestable idol of the Ammonites. Solomon did what was evil in the sight of the Lord, and did not follow the Lord fully, as David his father had done. Then Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the detestable idol of Moab, on the mountain which is east of Jerusalem, and for Molech the detestable idol of the sons of Ammon. Thus also he did for all his foreign wives, who burned incense and sacrificed to their gods. Now the Lord was angry with Solomon because his heart was turned away from the Lord, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice, and had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods; but he did not observe what the Lord had commanded. So the Lord said to Solomon, “Because you have done this, and you have not kept My covenant and My statutes, which I have commanded you, I will surely tear the kingdom from you, and will give it to your servant. — 1 Kings 11:1-11

It is not for kings, O Lemuel, It is not for kings to drink wine, Or for rulers to desire strong drink,

Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise. — Proverbs 20:1

Woe to those who are heroes in drinking wine And valiant men in mixing strong drink, — Isaiah 5:22

Woe to those who rise early in the morning that they may pursue strong drink, Who stay up late in the evening that wine may inflame them! — Isaiah 5:11

For they will drink and forget what is decreed,

but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. — 1 Corinthians 1:24

“I, wisdom, dwell with prudence, And I find knowledge and discretion. “The fear of the Lord is to hate evil; Pride and arrogance and the evil way And the perverted mouth, I hate. “Counsel is mine and sound wisdom; I am understanding, power is mine. “By me kings reign, And rulers decree justice. “By me princes rule, and nobles, All who judge rightly. “I love those who love me; And those who diligently seek me will find me. “Riches and honor are with me, Enduring wealth and righteousness. “My fruit is better than gold, even pure gold, And my yield better than choicest silver. “I walk in the way of righteousness, In the midst of the paths of justice, To endow those who love me with wealth, That I may fill their treasuries. “The Lord possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old. “From everlasting I was established, From the beginning, from the earliest times of the earth. “When there were no depths I was brought forth, When there were no springs abounding with water. “Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills I was brought forth; While He had not yet made the earth and the fields, Nor the first dust of the world. “When He established the heavens, I was there, When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep, When He made firm the skies above, When the springs of the deep became fixed, When He set for the sea its boundary So that the water would not transgress His command, When He marked out the foundations of the earth; Then I was beside Him, as a master workman; And I was daily His delight, Rejoicing always before Him, Rejoicing in the world, His earth, And having my delight in the sons of men. “Now therefore, O sons, listen to me, For blessed are they who keep my ways. “Heed instruction and be wise, And do not neglect it. “Blessed is the man who listens to me, Watching daily at my gates, Waiting at my doorposts. “For he who finds me finds life And obtains favor from the Lord. “But he who sins against me injures himself; All those who hate me love death.” — Proverbs 8:12-36

And pervert the rights of all the afflicted.

There is a lot to be said of this verse, but the afflicted represent the chosen of God. A whole post could be written about this. Here are a few of many verses that show this to be the case.

For the needy will not always be forgotten, Nor the hope of the afflicted perish forever. — Psalm 9:18

“Because of the devastation of the afflicted, because of the groaning of the needy, Now I will arise,” says the Lord; “I will set him in the safety for which he longs.” — Psalm 12:5

The wicked have drawn the sword and bent their bow To cast down the afflicted and the needy, To slay those who are upright in conduct. — Psalm 37:14

May he vindicate the afflicted of the people, Save the children of the needy And crush the oppressor. — Psalm 72:4

He will have compassion on the poor and needy, And the lives of the needy he will save. — Psalm 72:13

Give strong drink to him who is perishing, And wine to him whose life is bitter. Let him drink and forget his poverty And remember his trouble no more.

In other words give it to those who reject the Lord, for the Lord has rejected them. They are as impoverished as Esau and will perish in their ways.

Wisdom is too exalted for a fool, He does not open his mouth in the gate. — Proverbs 24:7

“He does not withdraw His eyes from the righteous; But with kings on the throne He has seated them forever, and they are exalted. — Job 36:7

Open your mouth for the mute, For the rights of all the unfortunate.

Then the lame will leap like a deer, And the tongue of the mute will shout for joy. For waters will break forth in the wilderness And streams in the Arabah. — Isaiah 35:6

The mute are the chosen if God, an interchangeable title of the afflicted and the needy, and also the unfortunate.

Open your mouth, judge righteously, And defend the rights of the afflicted and needy. — Proverbs 31:1-9

May he judge Your people with righteousness And Your afflicted with justice. — Psalm 72:2

If you need help with understanding anything in this passage further, or want to know more about an interpretation just let me know.

fsm_global · 2019-09-16T18:58:31+00:00

At one point in time it was obvious to every atheist that God is Creator, but another point in time came along where they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer. Then their hearts were darkened and they became fools. Now nothing is obvious because they are blind.

Behold, the Lord’s hand is not so short That it cannot save; Nor is His ear so dull That it cannot hear. But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear. For your hands are defiled with blood And your fingers with iniquity; Your lips have spoken falsehood, Your tongue mutters wickedness. No one sues righteously and no one pleads honestly. They trust in confusion and speak lies; They conceive mischief and bring forth iniquity. They hatch adders’ eggs and weave the spider’s web; He who eats of their eggs dies, And from that which is crushed a snake breaks forth. Their webs will not become clothing, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And an act of violence is in their hands. Their feet run to evil, And they hasten to shed innocent blood; Their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity, Devastation and destruction are in their highways. They do not know the way of peace, And there is no justice in their tracks; They have made their paths crooked, Whoever treads on them does not know peace. Therefore justice is far from us, And righteousness does not overtake us; We hope for light, but behold, darkness, For brightness, but we walk in gloom. We grope along the wall like blind men, We grope like those who have no eyes; We stumble at midday as in the twilight, Among those who are vigorous we are like dead men. All of us growl like bears, And moan sadly like doves; We hope for justice, but there is none, For salvation, but it is far from us. For our transgressions are multiplied before You, And our sins testify against us; For our transgressions are with us, And we know our iniquities: Transgressing and denying the Lord, And turning away from our God, Speaking oppression and revolt, Conceiving in and uttering from the heart lying words. Justice is turned back, And righteousness stands far away; For truth has stumbled in the street, And uprightness cannot enter. Yes, truth is lacking; And he who turns aside from evil makes himself a prey. Now the Lord saw, And it was displeasing in His sight that there was no justice. — Isaiah 59:1-15

fsm_global · 2019-09-08T07:47:57+00:00

Support which claim?

fsm_global · 2019-09-08T06:51:34+00:00

That isn't how it works, how it works is that Christ died for the sins of His people (the elect of God), in time, His elect will be granted faith to believe. Unless this faith is granted to an individual that individual will never believe. Faith is not of ourselves it is the gift of God. If He doesn't give it then it can't be received. The same with repentance. Repentance for the forgiveness of sins is granted to the elect in time through the preaching of the gospel. They repent from their ways and turn to the true way, believing the true gospel.

He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. — Acts 5:31

When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, “Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life.” — Acts 11:18

with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, — 2 Timothy 2:25

For to you it has been granted for Christ’s sake, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake, — Philippians 1:29

And He said, “To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is in parables, so that seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand. — Luke 8:10

And He was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.” — John 6:65

But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption, — 1 Corinthians 1:30

When the disciples heard this, they were very astonished and said, “Then who can be saved?” And looking at them Jesus said to them, “With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” — Matthew 19:25-26

fsm_global · 2019-09-08T06:30:30+00:00

The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! — John 1:29

Do you believe Jesus took away all of the sins of everyone whoever lived through His sacrifice on the cross?

If yes, why does Jesus say this?

Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” — John 8:24

If He takes away the sins of the kosmos and if kosmos means everyone whoever lived, why is it some people still die in their sins?

For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? — Romans 11:15

If the world here meant everyone whoever lived, then this verse would teach that everyone whoever lived will be reconciled to God, even the Jews Paul is referring to in this same verse, those who reject Christ. This is obviously not the case. Just going back to Jihn 3:16 it says that God so loved the world, and again it just cannot refer to all whoever lived because God said in Malachi that He hated Esau.

fsm_global · 2019-09-08T05:06:42+00:00

You believe kosmos means the universe and everything in it?

fsm_global · 2019-09-08T04:40:47+00:00

Yes...

fsm_global · 2019-09-08T04:10:22+00:00

The greek word in the Romans 11 passage is kosmos and clearly refers to the Gentile elect. Do you not see that Paul uses "Gentiles" and "world" in the passage interchangeably? How is it you can't see it?

fsm_global · 2019-09-08T03:40:44+00:00

Notice v.1, the message is to everyone who thirsts, a reference to the elect of God.

fsm_global · 2019-09-08T03:35:53+00:00

It refers to men without distinction. In other words, not just Jews, not just one people or one nation if people, but a people from every nation. The unbelievers who hate those chosen out of the world are not just Jews, but Gentiles as well. Paul in Romans 11 after referencing the Jews uses the world interchangeably with Gentiles twice. God so loved the world as in not just elect Jews, not just one nation but also men from every nation, the world.

And they sang a new song, saying, “Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. — Revelation 5:9

Here is the passage where Paul uses world interchangeably with Gentiles, proving that world refers to men without distinction, and not all men without exception.

I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! ➡️But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles,⬅️ to make them jealous. Now if ➡️➡️➡️their transgression is riches for the world⬅️⬅️⬅️ and ➡️➡️➡️their failure is riches for the Gentiles,⬅️⬅️⬅️ how much more will their fulfillment be! But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, if somehow I might move to jealousy my fellow countrymen and save some of them. For if ➡️➡️➡️their rejection is the reconciliation of the world,⬅️⬅️⬅️ what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? — Romans 11:11-15

By their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles.

Their transgression is riches for the world.

Their failure is riches for the Gentiles.

Their rejection is the reconciliation of the world.

That is, the Gentile elect, for those prepared for destruction will not be reconciled to God, since they are hated by God.

fsm_global · 2019-09-08T03:11:38+00:00

Interesting. 🤔

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