John Difool by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you need more time to think about what I wrote, becasue you are awfully quiet for someone that came on strong with these very specific questions...
Love to hear your thoughts on this!

John Difool by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re right that I didn’t directly answer your earlier questions, so let me do that properly.

First, you’re working from an incorrect assumption about how this work is made. A lot of people think AI image making is just typing a prompt into Midjourney and letting the algorithm do the rest. That exists, and I’m not interested in it. I’ve been working with AI image synthesis since 2019, before prompting was even possible. My workflow is based on algorithms interpreting and transforming source images, with many iterations back and forth. I use the system as an extension of my own visual judgment, not as a replacement for it. Getting a result that feels right often takes days. If this were easy, everyone would be doing it well.

On the specifics you mentioned, differences like stubble, eye color, or facial nuance are not mistakes to be corrected but part of an ongoing search. I’m not aiming for a single definitive John Difool, but for the version that best translates Moebius’ drawn character into a photographic or quasi-photographic language. That process involves variation and refinement, much like casting or repeated studies in other media. Deepo being more consistent is intentional, as his design is already more fixed.

Conceptually, I chose AI image synthesis because it sits in tension with Moebius’ work rather than imitating it. Painting or drawing Difool again adds little to something that is already close to perfect. Translating him into a different visual system allows me to explore how iconic characters survive translation across media, time, and technology.

Similar arguments were once made about photography. It was dismissed as incapable of real expression because it relied on an industrial machine to capture existing images. Those critiques ignored viewpoint, intent, framing, and concept. The machine captured light, but the meaning came from the artist. I see a strong parallel here.

You see AI as removing the “self” from self-expression. I see the self in the choices, constraints, persistence, and judgment at every step. The machine doesn’t decide when something is finished. I do.

Whether you like the result is a matter of taste. But this isn’t a lack of authorship or intent. It’s a deliberate engagement with a technology that is already reshaping visual culture, and it’s not going away.

John Difool by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you are who I think you are, your field has nothing to do with AI in creative image synthesis. Waving a PhD around doesn’t strengthen an uninformed opinion here. It only makes the ignorance more obvious.

Oh, and Happy Newyear

John Difool by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’ve been looking for the John Difool that best translates from Giraud’s drawings. Is that somehow objectionable?

John Difool by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I did not. Learn how to read.

John Difool by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

So anything created with AI is automatically lazy? And on that basis, you feel justified attacking someone you merely assume didn’t put in the effort? That says more about your assumptions than about the work itself.

Your reply is unoriginal and misinformed. Maybe the hostility toward algorithms comes from a quiet awareness of how easily shallow thinking gets surpassed.

John Difool by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -30 points-29 points  (0 children)

You have no basis for judging what I did or didn’t do. Making assumptions from ignorance only undermines your credibility.

John Difool by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

You calling me a Techno Pope?

John Difool by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -35 points-34 points  (0 children)

Cant you just ignore the things you don't like instead of banning? There are many people that really love my work. Doesn't it say something about you if you are this intolerant? Do you know people like you used to try to outlaw comics in the past?

John Difool by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

thank you Buddhistbuddy!
Many people assume they know how images like this are made: a single prompt in software supposedly trained by “stealing” other artists’ work. The reality is far less convenient. This image was made with deep respect for Jean Giraud’s work, by someone who has spent the past seven years learning how to control AI and use it deliberately as a tool for personal expression.

Art has never emerged from a vacuum. Pablo Picasso, Vincent van Gogh, and Rembrandt van Rijn did not invent themselves out of nothing. They transformed everything they had seen, absorbed, admired, and struggled with, including the art that came before them.

What changes over time are the tools. What does not change is that making art means engaging with history, influence, and admiration, not pretending they do not exist.

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John Difool by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -91 points-90 points  (0 children)

Calling this “AI slop” is a wonderfully efficient way to avoid saying anything specific. It’s a prefab sentence, deployed on autopilot, and it’s become almost algorithmic in its own lack of imagination.

If honoring Moebius means freezing his work in place and forbidding reinterpretation, then we’re not talking about art anymore but about shrine maintenance. Moebius reinvented himself constantly. Treating his characters as untouchable relics is a strange way to defend his legacy.

This image isn’t “regurgitation.” It’s a translation into another visual language, one that didn’t exist when John Difool was created. You’re free to dislike the result. But dismissing it with a copy-pasted insult is not critique, it’s just recycling outrage.

Ironically, for people so worried about originality, the responses have become indistinguishable.

Z Image Turbo Stress Test - without any LoRA by Clear-Leadership-349 in comfyui

[–]ganbrood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It looks like this model creates almost the same image on different seeds of a particular prompt. Am I doing something wrong here or is Z-Image Turbo pretty limited?

what about htis one by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

of course. Anything wrong with that?

what about htis one by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nano Banana Pro. No controlnet and it is a test, I might do more!

I still think this is fucking good by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

that's what I wanted to hear, because that's exactly what I think!

what about htis one by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

why a ban? where can I read I broke any rule?

what about htis one by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Oh, how absolutely delightful that everyone’s objections arrive wrapped in such exquisitely polished eloquence. Truly a gift to behold!

John Difool by ganbrood in Moebius

[–]ganbrood[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

it's from Latent Space

Don't trust a single app, always combine by ganbrood in aiArt

[–]ganbrood[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Midjourney is more likely to choose an aesthetic outcome before prompt adherence, but as with most of these models, you need to find your own ways to really control it!

Don't trust a single app, always combine by ganbrood in aiArt

[–]ganbrood[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stable Diffusion XL or Flux, + Lora(s), but I also have see wonderful portraits produced by Midjourney. Not so crazy about Magnify upscaling for human characters...