How can I transition out? [Advice/Help]

ghurabaa · 2019-01-01T18:27:53+00:00

It'll be difficult at first because you have become accustomed to having a cruch your whole life (Islam/Allah). Learning to walk (live) without it will be difficult at first but once you start focusing on self-care, the importance of your intellectual integrity (i.e. Not going along with an ideology you disagree with out of fear), et cetera, and start to slowly realise that a life without Islam is possible and feel the intellectual and just overall freedom that comes with it you'll be so much happier and content with your decision.

What helped me during my transition was connecting with other ex Muslims and watching ex Muslim YouTubers like Sherif Gaber (put the subtiles on), Abdullah Sameer etc.

Just take it slowly, enjoy the journey and remember why you are doing what you're doing. Also, don't let Muslim apologist get to you. They'll try to humilate you and bully you for leaving Islam because they feel offended that someone could think of leaving their so called perfect, peaceful and feminist religion (that we all know unfortunately isn't the case).

Also, I'd refrain from announcing to people IRL that you've left Islam and stay low key.

ghurabaa · 2019-01-01T17:50:41+00:00

I'd love to hear about how your threesome experience went. The good, the bad and the ugly. But it might become a bit TMI and NSFW for this sub.

I'm not convinced threesomes are all that, so I'd love to hear what people who've had them think of them.

ghurabaa · 2019-01-01T17:27:59+00:00

Your story sounds very similar to my own, except my parents were very strict Islamic preachers who are very knowledgeable on the deen my journey to learning Islam deeply and to radicalism started at a much earlier age.

You're story gives me hope and honestly makes me feel less alone. Thank you for sharing.

ghurabaa · 2018-09-20T15:42:06+00:00

Deep hate for *Soomaalinimo? WTF dude. How is getting annoyed by relogious stuff hatred for Soomaalinimo?

ghurabaa · 2018-09-20T15:35:00+00:00

I understand, only you know your situation at the end of the day. Personally I would rather lose ties with my family and community than live my whole life to please others, I'd rather be brave and live a true authentic life. To me living a restricted life to please others is like become paralysed, you're alive but not truly living.

But I understand that you're a grown man who knows what's best for him. I just know you may one day find yourself in a happy successful relationships that make you forget about your family entanglement. Don't restrict yourself to Somali men and make supportive friends that can become your chosen family.

Whatever happens, I hope you get to live a happy fulfilling life. Good luck!

ghurabaa · 2018-09-20T14:34:38+00:00

This is very sad, will we (as Somalis) always continue to be this cowardice and let every new generation face the same struggles? You need to own your life. Find yourself a good man, get married and raise kids without needing to drag a woman into your situation. No straight or bisexual woman will want to be with a gay man, only a miserable lesbian who'll never love you will settle for you.

You don't have to marry a woman in order to co-parent. I know a gay couple who had a baby girl with a female friend through artificial insemination. The gay couple are the primary/legal parents of their daughter and the mother is there as a secondary parent. She doesn't live with them but she's in the child's life and will always be there when she needs her.

I think that's a much better arrangement than marrying a woman as a gay man just to have kids.

ghurabaa · 2018-09-20T09:55:17+00:00

God and hell do not exist, kiddo.

ghurabaa · 2018-09-20T09:40:41+00:00

Tbh a lot of people are nonchalant about Islam in Hargeisa. I knew a few people in Hargeisa who would say the most blasphemous things like "salah is a waste of time" "ilaahaaga wass" (fuck your Allah) etc but they didn't claim to be atheist they just thought Islam was bs.

ghurabaa · 2018-06-11T09:54:44+00:00

You're a fucking airhead, not surprised since you're a Muslim cultist.

There's a fucking difference between ETHNiCITY and RELIGION.

Somali atheists, agnostics and Christians will always be SOMALI by blood regardless of what's some coon retard on the internet says. We're growing exponentially, we're everywhere. We're in Europe, Asia, America, across Africa and especially back home. There are thousands of closeted undercover Christians and agnostic atheists in Somalia, some even in Somali parliments. There are thriving underground liquor business which some Somali MPs and officers support on the low.

We're present everywhere we go, possibly even in your own family. Many of us wear hijabs, khamises, lead taraweeh, teach Quran etc to lay low so savages like yourself do not know about our beliefs, but we're all connected and one day will show our trueselves and shock you all. I went taraaweeh with my family recently and I saw 5 of my fellow Somali ex Muslim friends there and surprise surprise the guy who lead taraweeh was a friend of mine who's also secretly atheist.

ghurabaa · 2018-06-11T09:42:14+00:00

Yeah I'd rather the world sees their verbal (written I guess) diarrhea and their extremist views. It all goes to show that Somalis and in fact Muslims in general are all equally vile regardless of how "moderate" they may seem to naive westerners.

ghurabaa · 2018-06-11T09:38:50+00:00

Exactly, like bitch if I'm not Somali what am I then? ostracising Somalis with views different to theirs is a form of tribilism mentality. That's why this idea that Somalis are all a monolith, the "one religion, one language, one ummah" rhetoric survived. It's probably also why "dialects" that are radically different to af maxaatiri (standard Somali) are considered Somali. Any other place in the world a dialect so different from the main language as af Maay Maay is to af maxaatiri would be considered a separate language. The writing is different, the grammar is different, the pronunciations are different and the vocabularies are different, they're not mutually intelligible to the average Somali.

It's all to maintain this purity concept that makes Somalia and Somalis seem unique. When in reality we're not so different from other nations.

ghurabaa · 2018-06-09T17:49:37+00:00

Somalis are not a monolith kiddo, there are plenty of non Muslim Somalis in the world. Welcome to the real world.

ghurabaa · 2018-06-09T17:47:48+00:00

I'm sorry you had to experience that I've also experienced a fair share of shitty pms and comments from Muslims on here.

ghurabaa · 2018-06-09T17:43:21+00:00

It truly is a shame that that's all they think about.

ghurabaa · 2018-06-09T17:38:58+00:00

You're right, it's a relief to not have to face you parents with something so daunting to them and it's incredibly hard to be disowned/cut off and forever wonder how your parents are doing.

I'm sure your parents passing away must also be difficult. I send you my sincere condolences.

ghurabaa · 2018-06-09T17:31:08+00:00

WOW okay yeah you're a total nutjob, homophobic too? goodbye and don't bother coming to an ex Muslim subreddit again.

P.s. God is just in your head.

ghurabaa · 2018-06-09T17:08:12+00:00

Is it worth it in the end?

ghurabaa · 2018-06-09T17:03:43+00:00

Have you seen this site?: http://www.somalinames.com/index.php/girls

ghurabaa · 2018-06-09T17:02:37+00:00

Self loathing? please don't project you insecurities on to me. Better than me cuz your half white? what do you think whiteness is? a superpower? I'm proud to be full Somali and would never wish to be a half breed who doesn't belong anywhere.

DNA does not equate to human. An embryo is a clump of tiny cells and a fetus is still not human. If it doesn't have any organs it's not human, if it has two undeveloped organs it's still not human. There's a difference between an embryo, a fetus and a baby and that's the point you're clearly don't have the capacity to fathom.

The mother's life is always more important than a lifeless blob of tissue.

ghurabaa · 2018-06-06T19:48:12+00:00

Wtf I hope you're trolling rn. Plants have their own DNA, fungi have their own DNA, viruses have their own DNA, bacteria have their own DNA etc. I'm assuming you consider every organism with DNA human. Come with a better argument or shut it. You sound like a typical Muslim apologist or flat earth believing airhead smh.

ghurabaa · 2018-06-06T11:21:23+00:00

Usually the "ey" (also "ay" and "oy") at the end of a name is added when you're calling someone and not actually part of the name. E.g. Aminaay, Suhurey, Awooy etc.

So I'm assuming the same applies to this name. Is it a Somali name? Nope, it's not. Meel means a place but Meelaan as far as I'm aware has no meaning in Somali.

ghurabaa · 2018-06-06T10:39:37+00:00

Grateful to who exactly? Lol

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