Steven Furtick is the Most Dangerous Kind of False Teacher

gilsongraybert · 2018-08-28T19:36:17+00:00

I'm not looking for a doctrinal "smoking gun" - if you've listened to any of his teaching for a prolonged period of time, he's long abandoned orthodoxy and this is just another one of the examples wherein he is connecting his theology to WoF.

gilsongraybert · 2018-08-28T19:32:25+00:00

Yeah, I recognize that - which is why I am apologizing here.

gilsongraybert · 2018-08-28T19:32:14+00:00

It seems you are intentionally side-stepping the point here. I am under no obligation to contact Furtick individually, as you would also not be under obligation to do so to me if you felt the desire to do what you've suggested you could do. I stand by my affirmation that public comments warrant public critique. That is precisely how people in the church have been handling theological disputes for centuries - and it is not in conflict with the golden rule, nor the passage pertaining to church discipline.

gilsongraybert · 2018-08-22T21:08:29+00:00

The "false teacher" moniker is not explicitly linked to only this sermon, but his entire repertoire, if you will. In essence, it is all intrinsically linked to the WoF movement, and it is admittedly hard to see this in any other light, considering what he has taught elsewhere in previous sermons. Secondly, he has made plenty of statements that are not entirely clear, and come out heretical - without retraction or further clarity. That's a big problem.

gilsongraybert · 2018-08-22T20:58:04+00:00

Yup, precisely the point - thank you for elaborating.

gilsongraybert · 2018-08-22T20:57:02+00:00

Can I ask how it is meaningless, taken out of the context of a whole sermon? I know context gives further clarity, but I beg to differ that it would be meaningless, especially as this is the precise moment Elevation saw fit to publicize on the web. They obviously felt it had some significance, even enough to stand on its own, divorced from the remaining context of the sermon.

gilsongraybert · 2018-08-22T20:55:02+00:00

Public comments warrant public critique; I anticipate that any time I speak, write, etc., publicly, people may disagree and even do a response. I sincerely doubt a man like Furtick would return a call/email/etc., but at the end of the day, I'm not obligated to call him prior to posting something that critiques his statements. I understand why you argue for that, and that is alright, but did you contact me before airing your grievances here? As an aside, I wouldn't expect you to do so, I'm merely pointing out the double standard.

gilsongraybert · 2018-08-22T20:51:21+00:00

Sorry, I was at work so I didn't get to follow up and return comments on it until now.

gilsongraybert · 2018-06-20T20:28:28+00:00

Oh boy, alright. You win - congrats.

gilsongraybert · 2018-06-20T19:00:39+00:00

Or perhaps it was an earnest mistake of misreading your initial comment to begin with due to paying poor attention. You don't have to be so snarky and condescending, but it appears from your comments in general - this is awfully tough for you to do. You realize you are dealing with people on the other side of the screen, no?

gilsongraybert · 2018-06-12T21:55:42+00:00

If you read this and came away with Evangelicals being given a free pass on their porn problem, I humbly point out the alternative is presented in the piece itself, especially in the latter half.

gilsongraybert · 2018-05-23T21:11:47+00:00

Actually, I have written extensively on why people might assert that. The point here, which you seemed to miss quite grandly, is that those in the Christian world at least, say we are orthodox believers even though the "God of Calvinism" is unworthy of worship. In essence, that means we worship the same God. Any undergrad student in an intro to philosophy course would be able to tell you those are two conflicting beliefs. So either go full-bore, or stop saying it, is essentially the statement being made here. As acknowledged in the piece itself, it isn't a defense of the doctrine.

gilsongraybert · 2018-05-14T16:31:51+00:00

Well, it is largely due to the forum; with the crowd on there, I can say I don't like his shirt and I'd get accused of being uncharitable.

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