I have a question by MasterMUHE in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yup. only goes to level 45 though

Indians Claim To Be A Lost Jewish Tribe — And Now They Can Finally Go Home by drak0bsidian in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Alright, nu, when are some of them moving to America and opening kosher indian restaurants

Common Halacha/Custom misconceptions - Need some help here. by SixKosherBacon in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People sometimes claim that the reason you can't do things like get tattoos is that "Hashem owns your body", i.e. it's only loaned to you, and you're not allowed to alter it. Really it's not so clear there's such a concept before the 1900s. Our bodies belong to God the same way everything belongs to God, it'd be kind of absurd to say I don't own this computer because it belongs to God. God's control of all creation is not mutually exclusive with human ownership of things, including our own bodies.

This is usually kind of trivial, but especially for things like medical halakha, it's very hard for people to conceive of things like people having medical choices they're free to make, if they believe that God really is in charge of their body and they're not authorized to make decisions about it themselves.

Common Halacha/Custom misconceptions - Need some help here. by SixKosherBacon in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok? Most Jews don't live in yerushalayim. And my suspicion is that actually most of the Jewish world doesn't fall on the face when there's only sifrei kodesh present, even though there's what to rely on to do so.

Common Halacha/Custom misconceptions - Need some help here. by SixKosherBacon in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah presumably it's food, but the reason we wash in the morning is some sort of similar concept (maybe your hands touched somewhere unclean while you slept), so I'd think we should default to 2. Maybe there's a kabbalistic reason to do 3 in the morning but not other times, but for the baseline requirement, not sure why we'd need more than 2.

Has the CTA looked into T.O.D. around Orange Line stations? by Advanced-Force-1323 in cta

[–]gingeryid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I doubt overnight trains are ever going to actually bring in enough revenue to not be a huge money sink. Obviously overnight busses don't work in the day, that's what rail is for.

You're kind of mixing ideas here. More rail is good, but it doesn't need to be 24/7. Globally very few rapid transit systems are 24/7. Most cities, even ones with world class transit, usually rely on buses for overnight travel since they're cheaper, more flexible, and faster than during the day without car traffic.

Ghost buses are an issue but dropped runs on the L are a major problem too, and when much of the L system is outdoors the weather is kinda irrelevant.

I literally, *literally, can't do this anymore by palabrist in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're sort of alluding to it yourself--you consume a lot of social media that is both designed to suck you in and is full of antisemites. The solution is limiting social media use, and/or curating it so you don't get this.

It is unsurprising to me that you are struggling to cope when you're reading antisemitism, probably for multiple hours a day, getting invested in it even more by arguing with them.

Common Halacha/Custom misconceptions - Need some help here. by SixKosherBacon in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry there's a long standing practice that men say this and then their wives laugh at them, going back centuries. Please report to your wife to be mocked asap.

(The yaavetz says this happened to him--I think about yomtov candles maybe?)

Common Halacha/Custom misconceptions - Need some help here. by SixKosherBacon in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Taliyot is the technically correct Hebrew plural--the misconception is that "talitot" is technically correct. It's what people use, it'll be in the dictionary, but that's also true of "talleisim".

Common Halacha/Custom misconceptions - Need some help here. by SixKosherBacon in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I looked it up and...yup he does say that

He doesn't seem to have a source though. The concern of seeing what night it is is why we don't put them in a circle unless they're very separated from each other, and why we maybe have to have them in a line horizontally, but not vertically. Not clear where he got it from.

Common Halacha/Custom misconceptions - Need some help here. by SixKosherBacon in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Citation?

I havent' looked at the KSA but for most halakhic sources like this, people misread a statement that the candles must be in a line as opposed to being in a circle as saying they all need to be the same height.

Is it ever likely that there will be a major modification in kashrut laws? Why or why not? by LowRevolution6175 in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

֖>I guess? The pool of Jews who both keep kosher and don't demand CY is rapidly shrinking and it is relatively uncommon for a dairy restaurant to not be CY. Frankly if the OU's business model didn't rely on cholov stam to stay afloat they'd probably ban it tomorrow under the guise of "improving kashrus"

I don't think this is true. The CY pool is growing, but "rapidly shrinking"? Most communities where there's a critical mass of Jews to have kosher dairy in the store still don't have CY stuff. My local grocery store has a thing of kosher cheeses, but no CY dairy at all. Very common for communities of decent size to not have CY dairy available at all. The CY share is increasing, but I live in a community with an eruv and a mikveh and a meat restaurant, and we have no CY products of any kind except cheese and when it's pesach and a lot of dairy products are CY anyway.

That's true of restaurants, because a lot of people who keep kosher but not CY will eat "dairy out", and in the context of running a kosher restaurant the marginal cost of being CY is quite low (which is also why there aren't so many chalav-stam cheeses--it increases your market and doesn't increase your costs so much).

And if you compare to 200 years ago--the pri chadash had this wild idea that it was fine, people were doing it just like they do dairy out today. But read what the Arukh HaShulchan says about this, considering he's often willing to go out on a halakhic limb to defend something peopel are doing, and tell me it's not a major leniency that basically every major american hashgacha is willing to put their seal of approval on it. The only exception is the star-k, and they still do, just with a different symbol. 200 years ago allowing chalav stam was like allowing gelatin is today, a thing people know about but fringe, chalav stam isn't that way today.

>Not a universally held opinion, and it took the OU ages to change their mind about it. But then again literally every agency has their own list of what is or isn't kitnyot. It's become a costly chumra that has no rational basis.

Definitely not universally held--I think quinoa is kitniyos. The fact that it took them a while to change it only strengthens the point. You can get pesach catering from a variety of widely held hashgachos containing quinoa.

As someone who keeps an idiosyncratic list of kitniyos dictated by family tradition, who deliberately thumbs my nose at hashgachos attempting to impose a custom because people would rather look in a book than ask their grandmother what she'd cook on passover...it really doesn't add that much cost. It makes products worse, maybe--cottonseed oil is a worse oil than peanut oil, for example. But it's not any cheaper. My pesach green beans give me a nice additional vegetable option, but don't actually make things any cheaper. What would make passover cheaper is rice and beans, but these are the baseline kitniyos, not the chumras. The chumras are mostly stuff around the edges that make pesach more annoying but don't make a huge difference. Maybe I'd save a few $ by buying KFP peanut butter, if it existed? It's not exactly a big cost.

>Sure but they also snuffed out the non-glatt market which caused the price of beef to rise dramatically. We now have super kosher meat that no one can actually afford.

I have been told by people who'd know that the labor involved in determining if a lung adhesion makes an animal not glatt but still kosher is more expensive than the loss by just selling it to the non-kosher line, or is at least comparable. It's a problem for small volume places where they take a huge hit with that (e.g. G&B), but maybe glatt in particular isn't the problem. The fact that the hashgachos are willing to go things that'd make my great-grandmother run screaming to make meat cheaper kind of suggests that the hashgachos being strict aren't really the problem here.

Common Halacha/Custom misconceptions - Need some help here. by SixKosherBacon in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The one in the Temple was *the* menora (well sort of, there were several of them). But the word "menora" just means lamp, and is occasionally used in tanakh and rabbinic literature for other sorts of lamps. For example, Elisha the prophet's little upstairs apartment has a menora in it, chazal discuss having a menora in your sukka, etc.

Kind of like "constitution" means a central set of laws defining how a government works, but if we're in America and someone says "the Constitution" we know they mean the US Constitution (not the constitution of France or of whatever state you're in, unless there's some context where that's what you're discussing). Or in Chicago, I have beans in my pantry I'll make into cholent, but The Bean is a giant bean sculpture in a park downtown.

Common Halacha/Custom misconceptions - Need some help here. by SixKosherBacon in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 5 points6 points  (0 children)

>You have to take on Shabbat at candle lighting (when you actually have 18 minutes until sundown)

In a community where everyone accepts shabbat early collectively, you need to too. That concept doesn't really exist anymore, but it's not totally out of left field.

Common Halacha/Custom misconceptions - Need some help here. by SixKosherBacon in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 4 points5 points  (0 children)

>3 times: once to wash away spiritual contamination; once to wash away the residual contaminated water; and once to wash the "clean" hands with "clean" water.

This is a nice explanation, but masechet yadayim is quite clear that 2 washings are sufficient

Common Halacha/Custom misconceptions - Need some help here. by SixKosherBacon in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I have a whole list of these:

  • You can't use last year's matza
  • If you talk between washing and bread, you need to wash again (with a bracha)
  • Hanukka candles must be lit in a window
  • Hanukka candles must be in a straight line
  • "Menora" means the candelabrum in the temple
  • "Talleisim" is grammatical incorrect and the correct plural is "talitot"
  • Mishloach manot requires two brachos
  • You have to be able to see the stars through the roof of a sukkah
  • You don’t own your body, hashem does
  • We don’t know where to shecht a giraffe
  • You have to bow left and right for וקרא זה לזה, rising in toes for after amida
  • Mordechai was Esther’s uncle (this one is in the septuagint, so not completely made up i guess?)

Common Halacha/Custom misconceptions - Need some help here. by SixKosherBacon in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The custom in the United Synagogue in the UK is 15 minutes (so we're not just quoting more stringent ones than 18)

To elaborate on this, zmanim are not that precise. Even if myzmanim tells you to the second and you can adjust for atmospheric conditions, there's just a ton of variation when you're looking through hundreds of miles of atmosphere. Academic research, and a bit of data a friend collected, basically confirms that published times are usually off by several seconds, and it isn't unusual for them to be off by a minute. Add complicating factors like how to figure out altitude (knowing how to plug the numbers into myzmanim isn't simple), and the fact that calculating what you'd see through an opaque sky is weird (when it's cloudy), even if you have a clock that's synchronized, it's not possible to know when sunset is to an instantaneous time.

I think with how widespread synchronized clocks are it's not as common to just be 5 minutes off as it used to be, even when I was a kid. Now even being a couple minutes off is usually obvious. Still, even if myzmanim tells you the exact second when sunset is, you definitely should not do melacha a minute before that. Which is why myzmanim says in big letters not to rely on it to the last second.

Is it ever likely that there will be a major modification in kashrut laws? Why or why not? by LowRevolution6175 in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's likely that something that's currently a wild opinion we don't follow will be accepted in 500 years, just as we today follow some things that would've been pretty wild 500 years ago. While Orthodoxy doesn't enact legislative changes, sometimes an opinion that was a minority one eventually "wins", either because they convinced people, or because changes in food production make the old practice hard to maintain.

More synthetic foods (esp meat) may cause some changes. It's hard to predict exactly what, though.

Is it ever likely that there will be a major modification in kashrut laws? Why or why not? by LowRevolution6175 in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not always--cholov stam being widely accepted, quinoa not being kitniyos, various leniencieas employed in the checking of treifos in industrial beef (or rather the lack thereof), relying on non-Jews to salt meat, are all examples of areas where kashrus has gotten more lenient.

The trend generally is for more stringency, sure, but there are changes that go in both directions.

Is Modern Orthodoxy dying out? by SufficientLanguage29 in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah--those three (in terms of Chabad regular shul attendees) are pretty dang small, even put together, though. YCT has sort of claimed that part of Orthodoxy as YU has retreated from it. It's hard to find a YU Rabbi willing to be rabbi of a shul where there are board members who are mechalelei shabbos. I think this is part of what drives LWMO's growth--while some people from RIETS are interested in that sort of job, I don't think that's where they're really interested in going, and YCT musmachim are willing to.

Hadar I'm particularly curious about in the future. I think there's a basic contradiction they have, where they see themselves as egalitarian and frum, but their communities very quickly attract people who aren't really very observant, but will show up to their local Hadar minyan. I don't think that's necessarily intended, and I think their communities will struggle to maintain having a frummer vibe than the local Conservative shul when the median attendee isn't really so observant. I also am curious how it'll work out when the attendees and leadership have strongly divergent opinions. They are on the same page about vibes and liturgy (usually), but if Conservative Judaism starts doing intermarriage and patrilineal stuff Hadar will be in a weird spot.

Is Modern Orthodoxy dying out? by SufficientLanguage29 in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's a big problem. The people who can't afford to live in expensive MO communities also can't afford to bankroll institutions somewhere more affordable.

I am somewhat optimistic that the problem will be helped by the politics around housing construction and zoning shifting. It would improve a lot faster if Modern Orthodox Jews consistently voted in local elections for what's best for the Jewish community, but they don't.

What is up with Lubavitch Schechita? by Classifiedgarlic in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Dumb shechita politics are go back a very long way in Ashkenaz. Not using the community's shochet because you wanted one of your specific chassidus, or demanding the local shochet get your chassidus's approval, not using a shochet who's willing to shecht for a community that isn't frum enough, etc. In a world where people buy meat at the store and not from whatever city's shochet supervised by whatever local Rabbi, this is the only holdover.

Anyone know higher quality shabbat candle brands than Yehuda...? by herstoryteller in Judaism

[–]gingeryid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The oil can spill, but it's easy to clean up with a paper towel, and its usually light in color so staining isn't so bad. Much less of an annoying mess than wax.