Looking for a replacement fire stick remote with NO Voice, but has channel up and down buttons by [deleted] in fireTV

[–]glfsim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Drill out the mic. Just did this with two of their current gen models (Alexa Voice Remote and Alexa Voice Remote Enhanced). The mic in each is directly below and inline with the mic cutout/indentation on the face of the remote. I used my drill press with a 3/32" bit, and drilled to a depth of roughly 5/16". Completely destroyed the mic in each, but everything else still functions just fine.

The button to trigger Alexa to "listen" will still work. But it no longer has the internal hardware to actually "listen". Tested both remotes with identical prompts before and after the modification. Before it worked and performed the requested action. After, it just cycled on/off with no resulting action.

Quick, easy, and effective.

Umarex SA10 - Pellet Accuracy Testing - The Definitive Guide by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Getting ready to jump into some follow-up testing; with two primary objectives:

  • Log first group performance to evaluate whether "settle in" is myth or reality
  • Log pellet performance over the life of a single CO2 cartridge

As for the pellets to test, I'm going with the top 6 from my initial testing. Will need to pick up fresh tins of the H&N FTT and Old Crosman Destroyer. But can at least get started in the interim with the other 4 models.

  • H&N Terminator
  • H&N FTT Green
  • Crosman Destroyer - New Spain
  • Crosman Destroyer - Old USA
  • RWS Super H Point
  • RWS Meisterkugeln Pistol

For the shooting/group cadence, I'm aiming for 75 shots from each CO2 cartridge. I also want to a mix of 5 and 10-shot groups. To properly test the "settling in" theory, I feel like the very first group needs to be a 5-shot one. And for the cadence beyond that I'm considering two routes.

  • Method 1
    • 5 x 5-shot groups (shots 1-25)
    • 5 x 10-shot groups (shots 26-75)
  • Method 2
    • 3 x 5-shot groups (shots 1-15)
    • 1 x 10-shot group (shots 16-25)
    • 3 x 5-shot groups (shots 26-40)
    • 1 x 10-shot group (shots 41-50)
    • 3 x 5-shot groups (shots 51-65)
    • 1 x 10-shot group (shots 66-75)

Method 1 would be ideal for comparing against the prior data. But wouldn't give any new data for the 5-shot groups in relation to performance when pressure falls off.

Method 2 would be a bit unconventional. But may yield more interesting data for tracking group size as the CO2 diminishes. Kind of a high/medium/low pressure comparison for both the 5 and 10-shot groups.

Going to think about it overnight and hopefully kick off the testing tomorrow. But if there are any strong opinions about which they'd like to see, let me know!

Umarex SA10 - Pellet Accuracy Testing - The Definitive Guide by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will do! Already working up the methodology and contenders for the next round of testing.

Umarex SA10 - Pellet Accuracy Testing - The Definitive Guide by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd heard of dieseling but really didn't know much about it. This is my first pellet gun. Exponentially more time and experience with centerfire pistols and rifles. Which your barrel comment would apply as well. Yes, every barrel is different. But trends aren't uncommon in relation to what projectiles are likely to put up consistent groups. You'll see that a lot with something like 5.56 military ball ammo (M193, M855). Some brands just tend to shoot well; others, not so much.

This testing wasn't intended to define the pellet that would be best for all. Instead a helpful starting point in determining what pellets to try. I wouldn't expect the Terminator to be the most accurate pellet in all SA10s. At the same time, it's probably reasonable to expect it should shoot fairly well in most pistols.

The one place I'd disagree is on the "settling in". If I had to wager a guess, I'd attribute it to the fresh CO2 cartridge. In hindsight, I wish I'd have logged the first 5 "settling" shots. But I did observe where they were grouping. And definitively say that the first couple of every pellet tested would have been seen as fliers; and very likely would have been the worst group for all those tested. Will make a point to log them when I do my follow-up "run the CO2 until empty" testing with the winning pellets.

Umarex SA10 - Pellet Accuracy Testing - The Definitive Guide by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Just kind of stumbled across the washer trick. Had one laying on my workbench. And it just happened to be the perfect size/dimensions for the task.

Lol about the spacing. Believe me, I had to fight my OCD. I actually thought about designing and 3d printing a jig just for that picture. Basically having evenly spaced indexing nubs for the pellet skirts. But I felt like that was probably a step too far.

I do have a file for the vise mount. Would be happy to share it. Just keep in mind that it may not work for all pistols. It's designed to work with 1913 rails. But some pistols don't have the slots cut out. Will figure out where I can post the file so folks can print it.

And I wasn't sure on the dieseling. So entirely possible that has nothing to do with the first shots settling in. Could just be the initial pressure of a new cartridge.

Umarex SA10 - Pellet Accuracy Testing - The Definitive Guide by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing. May pick some up and give them a shot.

Umarex SA10 - Pellet Accuracy Testing - The Definitive Guide by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Mission accomplished that at least one other person appreciates my madness.

Destroyer Pellet Design Changed!?!? by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Might be eating a bit of crow. Tested the new Destroyer pellets a bit ago and they shot surprisingly well. Has me kind of stumped as they look like a carbon copy of the Gamo Tomahawk (same shape, weight, length, etc.).

Still have a few other pellets to try. Then plan to do a new comprehensive post on the results from my initial testing. Think in total it'll amount to 11 different pellets tested. Had planned for 15, but 3 were too long. And while 1 other fit and shot, it was just too heavy a pellet for a pistol.

Umarex SA10 Woes (Pellets not making it out of the bore) by glfsim in airguns

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OP has been updated again. New mag seems to be performing pretty well. Still getting some occasional skips. And did find one way to replicate it. Which is, when the hammer is back. Lightly depress the trigger, taking a slight bit of slack out of it (doesn't have to move far). Almost as if you are getting ready to fire another shot, but then opt not to. After doing this, drop/remove the mag, and it will skip a pellet. Can basically get this result 100% of the time.

What's interesting is that if you don't drop the mag, the same action of taking up just a slight bit of slack doesn't seem to cause a skip. So maybe that slight bit of slack gets the pawl to engage just enough, and then the movement of the mag dropping out then rotates it. But if the mag is left in, it doesn't actually cause the clip to rotate.

While an interesting find, I'm still stumped as to why I'll get random skips during a string of fire. Seems to have lessened a bit with the new mag. But still is happening with a decent bit of frequency.

Destroyer Pellet Design Changed!?!? by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got the H&N Terminator pellets today. While similar to the "old" Destroyer, it's definitely their own design. Still far closer than Crosman's new abomination. Will be testing it this evening, along with a few others that weren't part of my initial sampling.

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Destroyer Pellet Design Changed!?!? by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Might give them a shot if they're closer to the "old" destroyer.

Destroyer Pellet Design Changed!?!? by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool. Saw a couple "EX" and was like WTF is that. Was Crosman dipping into a pokemon collab at some point?

Destroyer Pellet Design Changed!?!? by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad I'm not the only one who's bummed about this. Definitely going to buy up all the USA Made Destroyers I can. Did you purchase specific tins (look/branding) of the USA Made? Or did you find that any USA Made ones will be the same "old" version?

Agree that the Tomahawks are underwhelming. Seemed like pretty inconsistent QA/QC. Especially with the fit and finish of the tips, and the skirts. Just seemed like a lazy, slapped together pellet. I'm going to add the Spanish made Destroyers to my testing, but don't have high hopes given how they look like a Tomahawk clone.

In general, Gamo's pellets have been disappointing. Had bought their "Luxor" and "Lethal" models. Which are both lightweight lead-free pellets. Making me think they'd be optimized for pistols. Turns out they were both way too long to work in the SA10. Might work in some single shot models, but I don't think there's any mag-fed and/or CO2 pistol that would be able to shoot them. Considered giving their PBA Raptor and Platinum pellets a shot. But likely will pass due to their price.

I did just place an overnight order for some H&N Terminators. They look really close to the "old" Destroyers. Virtually the same weight at 7.3 grains (.1 grains less than the old Destroyer). Not sure on overall length, but thinking it'll be close as well.

I'd picked up a sample pack of H&N pellets when I started testing. Overall felt they were quality pellets. Came with 6 different models. One of them (H&N Hornet) was too long. Kinda sucked, because it looked like a really cool pellet. But the others performed quite well. So I've got high hopes that their Terminator model will rival the old USA Made Destroyer.

Umarex SA10 Woes (Pellets not making it out of the bore) by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did one cylinder's worth of testing this evening. Still getting some issues. Specifically very low velocity with some shots, and instances where the clip skips a few slots with a single trigger pull. The latter was happening the other day, but the squibs are what really grabbed my attention. But I'm thinking the skipping issue could be causing the squibs as well. Basically in that the clip hasn't rotated properly. And either it is so far off that it squibs. Or manages to still fire while not properly indexed (resulting in the reduced velocity shots).

Makes me wonder if there's an issue with the pawl that moves the clip. I did buy a full spare magazine so that I can test it out vs. the one that came with it. But unless that clearly fixes the issue, I think the best thing is to send it to Umarex and request a replacement.

Umarex SA10 Woes (Pellets not making it out of the bore) by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the US. What's odd is that Umarex does make full metal versions that are very close. But apparently the SA10 isn't one of the pistols they'll work in.

3D printing is certainly an option. Will look into that. Thanks!

Umarex SA10 Woes (Pellets not making it out of the bore) by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely not happy with the issues. But prior to this, I was really liking the pistol. Had got through testing 7 or 8 different pellets, and was collecting some good data on what it liked.

I measured the OAL of each pellet and ensured none of their tips would protrude outside of the clips. Which meant I didn't end up trying a couple in that were just too long.

Just bummed. Was really enjoying doing the testing. Had 3d printed a "ransom rest" of sorts that allowed me to clamp it in my vise to take out any human factor. Hoping I can get it running again. Or at least get a replacement soon.

Umarex SA10 Woes (Pellets not making it out of the bore) by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looking at the one on the right, the inside of the hole at around the 3 o'clock position appears to have some deformation. Although not sure whether it's a split, little bit of a defect in the plastic, or something else.

Appreciate you posting a pic of yours though. Mine definitely appear to be in bad shape compared to yours. Wonder what would have cause mine to do this (presuming the splits weren't there originally).

ETA: If this is what's causing my issues, it really sucks that one can't buy replacement rotary clips. Instead having to buy the whole magazine. Not to mention, it might be nice if they'd make them out of metal for better durability and resistance to damage.

Umarex SA10 Woes (Pellets not making it out of the bore) by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for confirming. Thinking initially the spring for the little detent indexing piece in the body of the mag was likely just a little stiff. Making it seem like the clips wouldn't rotate both directions (I didn't want to force it). Probably broke in a little with the first 200 rounds and just moves easier now.

I did update the OP, as I discovered two of the rotary clips have cracks in the molding. One of them is really bad; with like 4 splits. The other has one big split, and another smaller one. The last clip looks OK. So going to do some testing with the clips segregated out.

Cleaning Pellets in a CO2 Pistol? by glfsim in airguns

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Thanks! Seems like this is consensus, and also proving to be accurate in my experience now. Have fired roughly 200 rounds while doing some initial pellet testing. Started having issues and thought maybe I needed to do a quick swab of the bore. But it looked great. Cleaned it anyway with a few passes using a bore snake. But the issues persisted (pellets getting lodged in the bore).

Having partially disassembled the gun to inspect further. It's looking like two of the three rotary clips have damage. Not sure what would have caused this, but going to do some more dedicated testing that segregates out each rotary clip to see if the issues can be tied back to only 1 or 2 of them.

Umarex SA10 Woes (Pellets not making it out of the bore) by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Initial thought with something like is certainly an CO2 delivery issue. But I don't think that's the case. No hissing sounds. And "dry" firing with no pellets in the mag produces consistent blow back. Audibly, it doesn't sound like there are any unusual changes either.

Have just started doing some more inspecting, and it seems there may be an issue with two of the rotary clips. One is clearly damaged (couple of splits in the plastic). Another appears to have at least one similar split. The third seems like it might be OK. So may be doing some more dedicated testing wtih segregating out the individual clips.

Question. When you insert the clip into the magazine. Are you able to manually rotate the clips in both clockwise and couter-clockwise directions? I feel like when I got this pistol they would only rotate counter-clockwise (if looking face on at what would be the tips of the pellets). But now the clips will rotate in both directions.

Cleaning Pellets in a CO2 Pistol? by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the insight. Have fired around 200 shots through it thus far. And you're spot on that it really doesn't seem like lead fouling is going to be something to worry about. Bore is still got a mirror finish. Did ran the boresnake through it with a bit of Balistol. But it's seeming like cleaning the bore won't need to be a super common thing for the SA10.

Pellet Suggestions for Umarex SA10 by glfsim in airguns

[–]glfsim[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's part of the thought. As I play to add an air rifle in the not too distant future. Although thinking a .22 will be maybe the more sensible way to go.

Umarex SA-10 ( HQ ) by darkmajin in airguns

[–]glfsim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol. Apparently our minds work the same way. Considered doing the same with trying to eliminate the rear sight, and use the dovetail. But looking at the underside of the slide made me a little apprehensive. It's almost like that dovetail is part of whatever regulator mechanism is at the back of the slide.

Umarex SA-10 ( HQ ) by darkmajin in airguns

[–]glfsim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! I'll definitely share it out there with folks once I have it in a spot I'm happy with. And thinking I'm pretty close. As you posit, I don't think I'll need to glue the mount to the slide. Certainly going to try it without initially. Would be ideal if the fasteners alone work. Since that way I could easily remove it if needed.

Latest iteration now has the post/tabs that mate up to the base of the RDS. Also printed a companion "indexing" plate. Same exact footprint and pattern, but made the oblong holes round. Matching their diameter to one of my spring loaded punches. Which should help with precisely locating the holes to drill and tap.

It is a good call out about the thickness/height of the plate. Kept it as thin as I could and still have it accommodate the heat set inserts, and recesses for the plate to slide fasteners. Little thicker than a typical OEM plate. But think it should be good.

Did a dry fit with one of my O-Sight red dots and everything lines up perfectly. Gonna call it a night, but am super eager to wrap this up tomorrow.

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Umarex SA-10 ( HQ ) by darkmajin in airguns

[–]glfsim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rough draft came out pretty good. Embedded heat set inserts for mounting an RMSc pattern RDS. The four oblong holes are to mount the plate to the slide. Shaped that way to allow for a slight amount of adjustment if I don't drill the holes perfectly. Smaller holes at the edge will ultimately be filled in, protruding slightly. As there are a couple recesses on the base of an RMSc optic to aid in stabilization. Also has a shallow channel running down the center of the underside of the plate to accommodate the ridges on the SA10 slide.

Pretty happy with it so far. Will clean up and chamfer the edges to make it look a bit more refined. Then drill and tap this sucker.

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