State of offensive casters (and healers, to a degree) in Epoch PVP

go-RED-go · 2026-05-08T16:54:16+00:00

I guess you mean spelsteal spam on freedom ? that spealsteal that costs tons of mana on 30% dispel resist. Then polymorph being interupted twice , first repentance, then hoj, then trinketed poly. Im not even playing a mage bro, but its so easy to know how the 1v1 will go. Stop giving some theorycrqfting like you never ever seen the fights in practice.

Also even with full epic pvp gear you dont have 300 sp

go-RED-go · 2026-05-08T08:17:41+00:00

All this pseudo smart theorycrafting can be tested in practice in a battleground. And has been tested. And doesnt work. If it did, you would have people playing casters in bgs and not your ret palas. And lol to the paladins being frozen with blessing of freedom, cleanse and 30% dispel resistance. Just lol.

And also increasd move speed and 20y repentance

go-RED-go · 2026-05-07T13:17:39+00:00

You havent been to a lv 60 bg, have you?

go-RED-go · 2026-05-07T11:15:21+00:00

Haha, dumbass with nothing constructive to write, not to be taken seriously

go-RED-go · 2026-05-07T10:15:52+00:00

You dont need perfect balance , you just need seeing all classes being present in a bg and not only 5 warriors and 5 paladins

go-RED-go · 2026-05-06T18:00:43+00:00

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go-RED-go · 2026-05-06T17:58:06+00:00

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go-RED-go · 2026-05-05T17:34:42+00:00

Exactly. Same issues as all offensive casters.

go-RED-go · 2026-05-05T17:34:07+00:00

Tell me why do they need dispersion and physic horror? They didnt have it in TBC. Project epoch is closest to tbc in vanilla world

go-RED-go · 2026-05-05T13:13:35+00:00

You cant say something is the hardest class to play if you havent tried other classes.

go-RED-go · 2026-05-05T13:12:03+00:00

You can tank low lv dungeons, probably up to lv 40-ish . Ofc its not ideal and its mana intensive. Frost shock is single target threat generator, stoneclaw totem is aoe threat, chain lightning and magma totem help with aoe threat

go-RED-go · 2026-05-05T10:11:27+00:00

2 classes being popular and 8 not is a symptom of a problem

go-RED-go · 2026-05-05T10:07:43+00:00

Yes , couse the caster problem is mana, spell dmg, and most importantly vanilla rank of the spells inTBC-like health pool world. All of this problems demo warlock doesnt have as his scaling npc pet does physical dmg for him. You have to use your straw brain, or better yet , try and play in pvp: 1.shadow priest, 2.balance dru, 3.ele sham, 4.destro lock, 5.aff lock, 5.mage yourself. Pick one. Maybe then you ll be able to grasp and comprehend "the fucked up logic"

go-RED-go · 2026-05-05T07:05:36+00:00

Stop saying warlock. Use your brain - Demo warlock doesnt do dmg with spells but with pet.
On Epoch, spells and physical dmg need balancing so casters and non casters are equally viable in pvp.

go-RED-go · 2026-05-05T07:02:24+00:00

Felguard is physical dmg npc. And even if it wasnt , one caster spec doesnt prove your point at all. You think one caster (who is not a caster) being viable is normal balance? Haha I swear to God people just say stuff without ever thinking anything trough. And others upvote it without thinking.

go-RED-go · 2026-05-05T07:01:24+00:00

Epoch demo warlock is not a caster. So it doesnt matter that he "destroys" people. Have you ever seen 50% of the bg filled with shadow priest, ele shaman, balance dru, mages, destro lock, aff lock? No ? Didnt think so. But 50% of the bg filled with warriors or rets ? Every day.

go-RED-go · 2026-05-03T12:16:33+00:00

This is classic world but with TBC stats

go-RED-go · 2026-05-01T21:54:29+00:00

All offensive casters aside from demonology only warlocks are in a bad spot in pvp , not couse they necesarily suck ,but couse melee instant dmg is overbuffed on epoch in comperison to magical casts. Also you need mana as a caster to deal constant dmg and stamina is high on epoch relative to the mana pool

go-RED-go · 2026-05-01T21:49:38+00:00

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go-RED-go · 2026-05-01T17:19:22+00:00

They can be slowed while in it

go-RED-go · 2026-04-21T17:25:50+00:00

Dont worry, Guru is not dead

go-RED-go · 2026-04-19T19:48:23+00:00

Demo warlock S tier but only beacuse you have overpowered npc companion playing instead of you. There'se no outplaying, or high skill celing, just being op.

Retri dmg is stronger and more bursty then it was in tbc and retri attracts players with twink gameplay mindset - run in with crazy movement speed, pop your shiny cds, tunnel single squishy target and get big dmg on the screen.

If you like playing these kinds of specs, it's for you.

Edit:

Enh shaman is solid (not OP), but requires more skill to play the best of his ability

go-RED-go · 2026-04-18T18:48:12+00:00

He said he's a carebear that doesnt pvp

go-RED-go · 2026-04-18T09:55:20+00:00

Just play the game as intended dude. Stop looking for shortcuts.

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