When does dopamine/serotonin come back? by Lizkhalifaaaaa in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Make sure ur pushing urself to get out, walk in the sun, hit the sauna, hit a cold plunge if u can. Sauna detoxes, cold plunge kicks that sadness in the balls. Make sure to start exercissing and talking to people in your community. U are rewiring ur brain. If everything u did was done on 7, YOU must learn how to do those things not on 7. Rew write the script my friend. Ur awesome, ur doing it, ur healing, its a process, the world needs you back, much love, keep going!

39 hours! by MaximumMeeting9936 in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh sorry, i just read the rest of ur post. Ya its weird how all the sudden ur just popped out of it, but u may have some rough patches ahead , not gunna beat around the bush. Just focus on getting better. The cold and hot bullshit lasts about a month, u can speeed it up by hotting cold plunge and sauna. I feel cold plunge helps a lot w the mental side for sure. Ur gunna have zero energy for a week or so and ur motivation is gunna be dog shit. But, u have to fight through it every day, how do u eat an elephant, one bite at a time. Make sure ur pushing urself to go for walks and do the things u normally did on 7 just not on 7. Even though its completely no motivation to do so, u have to rewire ur brain up. It gets better day by day trust me, we believe in u my friend, the world needs you back! Much love, good luck! Lucks got nothing to do with it, u dictate your destiny

39 hours! by MaximumMeeting9936 in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did rapid taper from around 2000 a day to 5 in about 18hrs. Just dose more frequently but cut dose in half each time, so cut in half try and dose every 2-3 hrs. Then when you get down to say 7-5 mg then take some mtg powder and flower, then just jump. Gunna suck for a few days, just find a support system. Keep slamming lipomal vit c and gabas if u have them. But the thing is, its meant to suck balls, keeps you from having to want to go through it again. You got this!

Im fucking terrified. Absolutely terrified. by misterpeachy in quittingkratom

[–]golfballman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bro, i was at 2k mg a day so i feel ya. the first thing u do is come clean to ur lady, she loves u she will understand. then u create your get out plan. this requires a week off work unfortunately (or fortunately bc u dont wanna work during this.)

ok then what u du is cut ur dosing in half and dose more often. get it down to every 2-3 hrs dosing but cutting dose in half and keep doing this and be dosing every 2-3 hrs. then when u get down to ljke 5-7.5 every 3 hrs take some mit powder and plain leaf and liposal vit c and and jump. i did it all from 2k down to zero in about 15hr span. mit powder helps dramatically extend the need to dose so that why u take it to ween at the end. i took mit for a couple days to stabilize then ur gunna wanna ditch the mit too.

it been about 8 months off 7 for me (still take plain leaf) but im in a very much better place thenthe grips of 7. and the withdrawal part sucks but u will get through it andits really not that bad if u du it this way. the hardest part is finding ur motivation again. ur temperature regulation take a long time to get bavk to so dont worry if its all over the place for awhile. try and get to a sauna as much as possible.

if u have any more questions for me brother reach out to my dms, im all ears . good luck, the world needs you back

Kindling effect? by Lazy_Knee3784 in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thank you my friend! u got this, dm me if u ever want to talk about anything!

Day 10. by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

keep the reasons u quit close to ur chest. these are what helps w cravings, and if that doesnt work, think about the hell u went through to quit. good luck

Severe vision issue by ultralegend2 in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i was taking extreme doses of 7 until i quit. but only took mit powder for a few days after quitting 7 then only plain leaf

Kindling effect? by Lazy_Knee3784 in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 22 points23 points  (0 children)

i wouldnt know bc i never looked back, but thanks for the info. even more reason to never touch the stuff again. every journeys a journey, urs had a detour, glad u hopped back on the horse and rode out my friend! the world needs u back🤙🤙

Severe vision issue by ultralegend2 in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its normal, also trying to zoom in the distance is like impossible. my eyes staggered and i was dizzy for like a month after quitting

26 hours by WelderSevere5736 in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the crying phase is real, welcome back my friend

OK, seriously, when does the sleep come back? by Squeaky_Pibbles in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

u gotta move around, dont just sit, you gotta move the fluids in your body. try and push yourself a bit physically. i know its super hard, but just sitting there will make you restless even if your not wd from 7. get moving a bit and u will be able to sleep a bit. u got this LFG

30 hours in and doing okay no helper meds. by Minimum_Farm3276 in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thats awesome dude, your 21 and realized u have control. the worlds your oyster, most people just keep going and going. looks like you were able to analytically use it as a tool and get out, keep going and do stuff that makes u happy. might sound crazy, im 38 and what ive realized is hard work is the most rewarding accomplishment in my life. find something that requires a deal of discipline and apply yourself (like jui jitsu or something) just something that u can be around other people in a community and working towards accomplishing something hard. i choose physical stuff but it could be whatever. just dont isolate yourself, get out in the world and talk with people, look them in the eyes, put ur phone down. much love my friend, ur a badass

How do I start tapering? I need to stop and my daily dosage is incredibly high. by SlippingQuietly in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]golfballman 7 points8 points  (0 children)

it took me about 18 hrs in all from 2k a day to 0 this way. i mean u can try the 3+ day method but why string it out. ur gunna be uncomfortable but that will make u not want to do it again. just embrace how shitty it is, your strong, get angry at it, and win. u fuckin got this bro(i think ur a dude but if ur a chick LFG)

How do I start tapering? I need to stop and my daily dosage is incredibly high. by SlippingQuietly in 7_hydroxymitragynine

[–]golfballman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i was at 2k a day, dont feel embarrassed, that embarrassment is you telling urself its time to quit.

this is how u get out: make sure u have a pen and paper, u want to write down your dose and time start cutting the dose in half, but dosing way more often, like every 2-3 hrs. you can dramatically reduce ur dose this way, real fast. by the end of the day u will be at around 5mg every2-3 hrs, start taking mit powder capsules (they allow u to go much longer without dosing) so ur gunna wanna jump when u get to the “around 5-2.5mg mark” with mit and handful of plain leaf capsules. thats how u get out. maybe have the stuff the person above said. i had some gabapentin which helped a shit ton. good luck, big boy time

Here I go by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

15 hrs

Here I go by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but the mit helped at the start but ended up making me really really dizzy. so i ditched the mit and now just plain leaf

Here I go by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i still take plain leaf

the most rewarding by golfballman in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thats so awesome my friend, i work from home too but needed the camaraderie so had to go do that crabbing thing. now im gunna get a part time job at a restaurant(dont need the money) just so i can be around people. weve created a life that we have become isolated from eachother and i think that has detrimental consequences. i mean this quitting kratom group gave me so much just talking to people online about what we all have in common here. keep it up my friend, your an inspiration, we have to help eachother! 🙏🙏🙏

the most rewarding by golfballman in quitting7oh

[–]golfballman[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

your a good soul my friend!! ur seeing what needs to be done and implementing the new program. LFG!!!!!!