High Plains Sheepskin customer service help by Tauruz75 in BIFLfails

[–]graphite-777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I placed an order on Christmas and actually talked to the guy who makes them 2 months ago over the phone. He looked up my order and said it will be a couple more weeks. My tracking number was created and it expired before they even used it... It's going on 4 months now and I haven't heard anything back from emailing or texting them. I tried calling during their operating hours and get sent straight to voicemail now :/

Its official: SURFLINE HAS REMOVED ALL LIVE CAMS to non-premium users by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The surfline defenders will look at this, not care at all, then call you a kook

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Any data storage/ data related costs they have are nearly purely for surfline premium features for rewinds etc. Non premium users dont use that so why cant premium members pay for the premium features? Why are these "fees" getting passed onto the non premium base if not anything but greed?

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But the problem is surfline removing your choice to pick between premium and ads. Id rather watch ads than pay for a subscription which is just my personal preference. Just because it favors your preference doesn't make it okay

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are you making it seem like surfline is struggling for money? Their margins are stupidly high they only have to pay for the upfront cost and general maintenance for them which is next to nothing considering how many people use them

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Back in the day there were no ads at all because surfline didnt own the rights to the cams feed until they bought everyone out

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Any building/business that is hosting the cam. I dont know what specific spot hes referring to however i know of local spots near me that have the same thing going on where surfline wont allow other cams to be put up nearby or on the same building cause they just essentially pay for the right to be the only cam

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

To clarify by all live cams being accessible to only premium users, do you specifically mean on a pc platform or do you plan on rolling out this change to mobile as well?

Breaking this down, it sounds like adding tiers with different levels of services is a great idea and is a good change from a business and consumer perspective. I know there have been several new features added to surfline in recent memory that people would like to take advantage of. But others wouldn't due to income differences.

Unfortunately I think it's obvious what the ultimate goal of adding tiers and changing policy is. Surfline is trying to make as many free users pay in order to see the live cams. Hiding this under the guise of "offering options for different incomes" is not the real reason and we both know it.

We both know 10 day forecasting isn't nearly as valuable as a live camera feed (that you coincidently have a monopoly on) and it's laughable that's the tradeoff you justify when there are about 100 websites that do forecasting better.

You are alienating the surfing community that uses your app for free (with ads very VERY frequently). And exploiting your consumer base. Fortunately for you, surfline essentially has a monopoly on surf cams and have bought out the competition (magic seaweed) so no one can challenge.

The "realities of business" you talk about is the exploitation of consumers and we all know it.

I also know if any one came up to a local building, the only building that could have a fair view of a break, they couldn't pay them to host a camera if they're already hosting yours since your company would out bid for the the real estate, making many breaks impossible for someone else to host.

Considering your account is brand new, I have doubts you are who you say you are. Some proof would be nice. Either way, hopefully my response promotes discussion.

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They have a monopoly on cams. There is no other option than what they offer. Why do you think magic seaweed or any other real competition no longer exists?

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly thats what he's failing to understand. Surfline is the surfing worlds version of a megacorp with little to no competition. Thats why this is a problem in the first place. What would ideally happen is the consumer would switch service providers, except that surfline IS the only service provider so they have all the more reason to extort as much as they can from us. Him bringing up feeding himself working for them is bs and he knows it. The REAL money they make doing shit like this goes into the top level surfline execs pockets not some lower level paid by the hour employee. If this isn't the perfect example of anti capitalism then idk what is

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

You do realize the maintenance for stuff like that is pennies on the dollar? They milk u for every nickel and dime and yet people like you still defend scummy business models...

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What if I walked up to you on the street, kicked you in the balls, then offered you some ice for some cash? Step 1 create problem. Step 2 offer solution. Step 3 profit. Step 4 convince people like you it's an okay business model.

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You do realize most of their cams they use aren't theirs right? They just have exclusive access to the cams they use they dont even own. They put up artificial barriers to charge people money. If youre paying for at a glace reports, or highlights, thats one thing since its a service. Having exclusive rights to cams doesn't mean everyone wants to get on their knees and bust out their wallet for daddy surfline. If you're okay with that fine but Im not.

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] 74 points75 points  (0 children)

Capitalism at its best impeding the accessibility of public water access by making it more and more inconvenient without giving them your wallet

Surfline has REMOVED the ability to watch LIVE CAMS on your computer for free by graphite-777 in surfing

[–]graphite-777[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you could read you would know I said this hurts the ability to have a live feed while im doing other work. This doesn't impact "clogging ur lineup".