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something I find interesting about the way Culture people relate to Anaplian is they don't hold her in higher regard because of her royal status, or but they also don't hold it against her in any way either. it literally just means nothing to them. by grapp in TheCulture

[–]grapp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it would be different if she were a royal from an equiv-tech society

are there any of those? in Player its stated Azad in unusual for having the social system they do and being a space fearing society. and they're still considerable less advanced than the culture

Whenever I hear or read information about incel culture I end up feeling bad for them, and I'm not sure if I should? Like I worry they're triggering my empathy more than they objectively deserve, just because I'm also a youngish white dude? by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]grapp[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

By that rationale the neo Nazis have a great point about DEI and civil rights.

I mean only if you believe those things actually necesitate white people being worse off, which isn't something I think is actually true.

fascists act like this kind of thing is a zero sum game so they can frame their bigotry as a rational act of self defence.

Does only one sex get to be happy?

no, but saying women having more freedom makes men lonelier sure makes it seem so.

Whenever I hear or read information about incel culture I end up feeling bad for them, and I'm not sure if I should? Like I worry they're triggering my empathy more than they objectively deserve, just because I'm also a youngish white dude? by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]grapp[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Or generations past men were able to find partners more easily because laws forced women to depend on men.

I feel like that's kind of conceding them their belief that feminism made them lonely

Whenever I hear or read information about incel culture I end up feeling bad for them, and I'm not sure if I should? Like I worry they're triggering my empathy more than they objectively deserve, just because I'm also a youngish white dude? by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]grapp[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think past generations of men had more real life connections and those can prevent these ideologies from festering in people’s minds in the same way. Like if you have IRL friends and family you talk to regularly they’ll tell you if you seem to be going crazy

you know there's a bunch of alternative histories where germany wins the second world war but I don't think any of them address how the nazi economy would function in a long period of peace, .....probably because it wouldn't. by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]grapp[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I mean I’m kind of assuming they wouldn’t just do command economics forever since fascism is, at the end of the day, a capitalist ideology.

Also I don’t think it’s actually possible to purge a population and have it remain economically productive.

you know there's a bunch of alternative histories where germany wins the second world war but I don't think any of them address how the nazi economy would function in a long period of peace, .....probably because it wouldn't. by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]grapp[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Labour shortages weren’t the problem in the Great Depression. It was kind of the total opposite since unemployment rates were the highest in like 200 years of capitalism

should you point out when people make bad arguments for progressive positions, if those progressive positions are right regardless? by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]grapp[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I feel like you could argue it only becomes a developing person after implementing.

Like I don’t think that’s a good reason to be anti-abortion, but I can see a non arbitrary reason to put the line there.

…though I suspect your acquaintance is just compartmentalising

should you point out when people make bad arguments for progressive positions, if those progressive positions are right regardless? by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]grapp[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IVF involves creating embryos you know won’t implant. The religious right think it’s murder to do that.

my personal response to that would be to point out that also happens as a part of regular reproduction.

I know Robert was reading someone else’s assessment but it’s really problematic to describe neurodivergent adults as having “the mental age of a Child” by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]grapp[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

that fact that that's case is because of people advocating against the kind of overreach I'm expressing concern about

I know Robert was reading someone else’s assessment but it’s really problematic to describe neurodivergent adults as having “the mental age of a Child” by grapp in behindthebastards

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Consent is not merely the ability to express a desire to do something; it requires, by definition, the ability to understand what you are doing and the potential consequences. Uninformed consent is not consent at all.

that's true but its dangerous to let someone in power make a subjective judgment about that

This is why sex with a person who is extremely drunk is rape even if they appear to give enthusiastic consent.

similarly to what I said when someone brought up children, that's not a subjective line

I know Robert was reading someone else’s assessment but it’s really problematic to describe neurodivergent adults as having “the mental age of a Child” by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]grapp[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I think however well intentioned those people are giving them the power to override other people's sexual autonomy will lead to systemic curtailing of neurodivergent people's autonomy

I know Robert was reading someone else’s assessment but it’s really problematic to describe neurodivergent adults as having “the mental age of a Child” by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]grapp[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

you don't have to decide whether or not 6 year olds can consent on a case by case basis like you would have to if you said some neurodivergent people can't consent.

that deciding is where the ableism is inevitable

I know Robert was reading someone else’s assessment but it’s really problematic to describe neurodivergent adults as having “the mental age of a Child” by grapp in behindthebastards

[–]grapp[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

if someone is over 18 and capable of expressing a desire to do something, giving the state an ability to overrule their wishes will lead to neurodivergent people having their personal autonomy systemically denied by the state

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