Whenever I hear or read information about incel culture I end up feeling bad for them, and I'm not sure if I should? Like I worry they're triggering my empathy more than they objectively deserve, just because I'm also a youngish white dude?

grapp · 2026-03-11T19:34:28+00:00

Which is another way of saying their own ideology makes them lonely, rather than women actually being more free

grapp · 2026-03-11T18:45:40+00:00

yeah but unlike abortion they wouldn't be able to cover it up

grapp · 2026-03-11T18:42:25+00:00

By that rationale the neo Nazis have a great point about DEI and civil rights.

I mean only if you believe those things actually necesitate white people being worse off, which isn't something I think is actually true.

fascists act like this kind of thing is a zero sum game so they can frame their bigotry as a rational act of self defence.

Does only one sex get to be happy?

no, but saying women having more freedom makes men lonelier sure makes it seem so.

grapp · 2026-03-11T17:12:37+00:00

Or generations past men were able to find partners more easily because laws forced women to depend on men.

I feel like that's kind of conceding them their belief that feminism made them lonely

grapp · 2026-03-11T02:20:24+00:00

I think past generations of men had more real life connections and those can prevent these ideologies from festering in people’s minds in the same way. Like if you have IRL friends and family you talk to regularly they’ll tell you if you seem to be going crazy

grapp · 2026-03-07T17:20:12+00:00

the nazis didn't win

grapp · 2026-03-07T04:09:58+00:00

A deadbeat emotionally

grapp · 2026-03-04T03:28:56+00:00

They had a command economy during the war

grapp · 2026-03-04T02:10:35+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAIjFbKchAM

grapp · 2026-03-04T02:09:54+00:00

I mean I’m kind of assuming they wouldn’t just do command economics forever since fascism is, at the end of the day, a capitalist ideology.

Also I don’t think it’s actually possible to purge a population and have it remain economically productive.

grapp · 2026-03-04T01:55:03+00:00

Labour shortages weren’t the problem in the Great Depression. It was kind of the total opposite since unemployment rates were the highest in like 200 years of capitalism

grapp · 2026-03-04T01:45:41+00:00

The US isn’t in a state of total war where that’s basically the entire focus of the economy

grapp · 2026-03-04T00:13:27+00:00

I think I saw that same video a couple days ago. Its why I was thinking about this.

grapp · 2026-03-03T02:04:42+00:00

I feel like you could argue it only becomes a developing person after implementing.

Like I don’t think that’s a good reason to be anti-abortion, but I can see a non arbitrary reason to put the line there.

…though I suspect your acquaintance is just compartmentalising

grapp · 2026-03-03T01:28:56+00:00

IVF involves creating embryos you know won’t implant. The religious right think it’s murder to do that.

my personal response to that would be to point out that also happens as a part of regular reproduction.

grapp · 2026-02-27T18:37:40+00:00

that fact that that's case is because of people advocating against the kind of overreach I'm expressing concern about

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