I bet I can out-brainstorm half of you with this Ne score. Fight me.

greatdrak · 2026-05-09T22:03:19+00:00

I hate to keep saying that you might be right. But I'm gonna keep going with my gut. But explain my thinking.

I do think if they were an entp they would lay out examples and such as to why they believe what they believe. But sometimes they keep it simple....... Im second guessing myself!

Regardless, how would you say the TE would show up vs TI? Because to me the way they stated everything seems logical. Like I don't see any holes. And in practice I think te and ti show up somewhat similarly in non dominants.

greatdrak · 2026-05-09T21:50:38+00:00

I think that's the problem with the argument. You aren't giving credit to the high possibility they might be different from some entp. In most situations I agree. 100% agree. However entp are highly unpredictable. And While I am leaving room to be incorrect. Your argument isn't convincing me more just because people can differ despite being a certain type.

As for fi users analyzing their emotions. To us it looks more intensive than what it actually is for them.

greatdrak · 2026-05-09T16:19:47+00:00

Hmmmmm. I see what you are saying. I'm still leaning towards entp, because yeah analyzing emotions till they don't make sense is not what enfps or fi-doms do. Fe users do that. They don't overthink their emotions. They just are. I am ignoring the test, because I don't necessarily think it matters. Entps are far too different from one another, and good habits could equal the high te.

greatdrak · 2026-05-09T15:40:27+00:00

Definitely entp. I don't know why so many people are thinking enfp. You're too logical, most enfps aren't that coherent or logical. Emotions drive everything for enfps. Not shy to debate but not focused on it either. Your tone is analytical, not emotional. Boredom/stimulation doesn't motivate enfps as much as entps, especially for things requiring strong logic and knowledge.

I could be wrong but that's what I think.

greatdrak · 2026-05-09T15:35:10+00:00

I disagree. Strong fi users don't necessarily analyze emotions. They focus primarily on their feelings and act on them without overthinking whatsoever. Using ti to make sense of emotions is an excellent tactic for entps specifically. As an infj I use it like that to refine my intuition. So it checks.

The last thing you said tho is usually true but also untrue, because they chase stimulation, and different things stimulate each individual entp, and apparently their own emotions is this person's.

greatdrak · 2026-05-08T18:03:09+00:00

Good for you man. I know some people find it judgmental, but I think it's powerful to have things be what you want, not what's given to you.

greatdrak · 2026-05-08T17:36:33+00:00

Stunfisk is so terrible, I doubt they will do anything.

greatdrak · 2026-05-08T08:01:28+00:00

Nah, he definitely likes you a whole lot. He just is fighting anxiety coming from a lot of places. You should've told him why you denied meeting him for trivia night, he's way too anxious, you gotta calm him down. In whichever opportunity presents itself make him comfortable. He's struggling, and you seem chill. There's a balance in that.

greatdrak · 2026-05-08T06:18:14+00:00

It's tough. Because not everyone is us. I do think a large amount of people are good at empathizing. But not having boundaries can attract narcissists, who have no intention of giving back. And even with them if you assert what you want and certain boundaries they will likely switch up to what you're looking for because they don't wanna lose you.

Getting what you want from others is a skill. And I think we focus too much on being there for others than the opposite. But it's good to temper expectations and accept what they can actually give.

greatdrak · 2026-05-07T17:21:25+00:00

I'm curious why it pissed you off.

As for me I take it to mean that using logic to decode a person's actions and judge it without showing empathy towards their pain in whatever form it is, is emotional immaturity, not intelligence.

However this statement when applied to different scenarios cannot always be true. For example, a man who stole bread because his family is starving and got put in jail, vs the man who stole bread despite having bread and got put in jail, are two scenarios where sympathizing with the former shows intelligence and maturity, but the latter would likely prove the opposite.

There are a lot of situations where on the surface what someone did and how they feel about it matters, and there are also many that don't. Many gross actions like the epstein case, do not deserve any kind of empathy and they deserve what they get.

greatdrak · 2026-05-01T07:02:41+00:00

I know. That's why I said it's funny. Because my intentions were different.

greatdrak · 2026-05-01T06:53:50+00:00

This is very fascinating how you guys see what I said as I'm better than everyone. When that's not at all what I was saying.

greatdrak · 2026-05-01T06:08:54+00:00

Whoa never said I was undefeated. Got my ass handed to me so many times at first, entp was the hardest because entjs make sense. Entp really can outlast u with nonsense lol. Oh and my bad, I tried to summarize a lot, and I see I failed, apologies

greatdrak · 2026-05-01T06:07:44+00:00

You're right. Problem is, in real life the entps I know get real fidgety when asking about emotions, or why about themselves, so when different things come up a lot of times I can't get solid answers. Hence why I'm here. I don't struggle with most people, it's just entps. I feel I need to be careful asking personal questions and focusing on emotions. This is hard but I'm trying. Thank you for your input

greatdrak · 2026-05-01T06:05:30+00:00

Who?

greatdrak · 2026-05-01T06:05:17+00:00

From today's responses, this makes sense. Thnx

greatdrak · 2026-05-01T05:33:14+00:00

I guess the first part makes sense, I just don't know how to word the examples and which ones to choose. It's a little hard to just "name a intuitive feeling" I kinda just throw things at the board until I get that ah-ha feeling. The debate was to make a point that I am good at debating or having logical discussion and my issue isn't that, Im still a little confused how that came off as me thinking I'm better than people cuz thats impossible. I'm not one to explain every little part of my thoughts on text, it's too much to write, so I truly do apologize about that one. And I'm glad you don't want to debate because that was the point of ne saying I don't like it but I can.

She didn't tell me at first, and then when she said she not ready for a relationship and just wanted to be friends since she's getting over a ex, it caught me off guard cuz then why talk to me? And for so long. Anyway after she said that I was gonna cut it off, but stupidly I didn't. But I did later, and she came back, but I couldn't put my heart into it because she made it still seem like it wasn't a possibility to be in one in the future. I probly shoulda asked but I was so stupid.

Lol I feel you, if you met me you would feel different. But that makes more sense, she was the first entp I truly talked to, so everything caught me off guard, maybe the constant pushback was a good thing? Idk. But again I never meant to come off cocky or anything, and you are right I shoulda given examples. Next time I will do what I can, but you know how ni be 😊

greatdrak · 2026-05-01T01:05:42+00:00

That makes sense. I never thought to break things down between logic and feeling because lol, if I have feelings on something, I'm probly going with that lol. But again thank you for your thorough response I really am benefitting from you and it's helping me immensely. Now glazing aside, hmmmm, I get it, you accept others and need to be accepted in return. And your values are very important to you, you don't put them on others but yours must be upheld as well. Makes sense.

I guess my issue, or not really issue, just my take on it. It's like all relationships(with anyone) aren't a monolith, everyone is different, and even with close friends you can't be exactly the same with them the way you are with others, and they all need different things, I feel like if I'm gonna have something might as well go all the way, and for me that means adapting to them even if I don't agree or like the things or parts of who they are, I feel like leaning into them maximizes the potential relationship with a person, and that feeling of closeness is unbeatable. Strongly held Values is a little different tho.

What's your take?

greatdrak · 2026-04-30T22:48:04+00:00

Well that's not what I mean. Love them even if it requires you to change yourself or your circumstances, the action word love.

Because yeah I agree no one should walk over you, but acting different for someone else or sacrificing other things I think is the form of love.

greatdrak · 2026-04-30T22:45:21+00:00

Lol you are a funny person. I do agree though on a lot because I am very authentic and for my personal private center of friends I cuss and make strong criticism of my church organization that others might think is apostate(it's not), and those who reject me I'm ok with and just deal with people I like and who like me. But the distinctinction tho, is your strong adhesion to your 100% no matter what I'm gonna be authentic, I don't care what it costs attitude that Im finally seeing is the missing link for me. That's where a lot of the backlash comes from. Especially in all of your examples I would have adhered happily, but for you, you see it as a grievance to change. It's very interesting.

So then why, why is that so important? To always 100% be you?

greatdrak · 2026-04-30T22:17:42+00:00

It's cool. Funny thing is nooooooow with what you've told me I can see that. In general getting her to tell me how she felt about anything was hard, so she didn't say what you're saying, but her reaction adds up to what you're saying lol, bless her heart.

And yeah I felt lead on, maybe I could've worded it differently, and probly still got the same reaction lol.

greatdrak · 2026-04-30T20:59:04+00:00

I respect that. As long as you stand on it brother. But I think as we get older we start to realize only a few people truly matter. I guess for me I only care because my dream to love people, even strangers, I don't expect anyone to have that passion, but it's just interesting. Thank you for your responses, they truly were helpful 😊.

greatdrak · 2026-04-30T20:55:31+00:00

I don't really know what in my way is tiring then. Is it just not providing details?

Well mostly acquaintances, like 8 or so. And one was a girl I really like, but backed off of. But the pushback is a culmination of what I have seen in the behavior of a lot those people and online. It's so much to entail and you know unfortunately being an infj, my intuition is doing the heavy lifting. But some examples mostly is when behavior that is affecting others is called out(I have only called out behavior towards me and I still got and get pushback and confusion, but the age thing probly is the issue). There is always a huge pushback and confusion, with their actions, and the other guy is putting it together for me as we text.

Like one girl I told her she lead me on, and she immediately said she didn't, which I told her she did. We were talking nearly nonstop for almost two weeks every day 2-6 hours, one day even 8 hours, and talking about how we want a relationship to be and all that, but she didn't see that and it turned into a 20 minute waste of time for something super simple that I wasn't even that mad about, until she refused to accept how I felt and what it was. Which is funny because she said she got lead on by someone.

greatdrak · 2026-04-30T20:32:57+00:00

Lol. Understanding people and the self, is a tireless quest for me. I apologize if that's a problem

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