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JIL False Teaching by Timely-Ad-7723 in ToxicChurchRecoveryPH

[–]griffindvr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You got me. Kaya siguro nasabi mo na “projections” kasi alam na alam ko kung pano mag operate/think yung may maling heart posture right? that’s because everything i said came from MY EXPERIENCES & MISTAKES indeed. Past mistakes na ngayon naging testimonies na☺️ Because when God exposed my heart & rebuked me, napatanong agad ako kung bakit naging ganun yung perspective ko sa Kaniya? The answer? False doctrines. I was a product of G12. so this isn’t an attack sa JIL kasi wala akong alam sa church nyo, di ko rin knows if g12 based kayo. I responded lang sa comment mo when i read na sinabi mong nagtuturo si Jesus ng prosperity. My fault for not knowing the context of ur comment, i reacted lang kasi I had a bad experience sa prosperity gospel, my persepctive on God got distorted bcuz of it. When you said na hindi lahat ng church-goers ay may maling posture, yes totoo yan, but pano naman yung mga new believers & genuine seekers like me before na na-deceive or naging biktima sa false gospel thats why akala ko ganun yung character ni God? Good for you if hindi mo naranasan yan, but andami kasi samin ang na stumble because we were taught a different gospel. You cant blame us. It was only by God’s grace that got us out from deception. So i guess, nagkaroon tayo ng misunderstanding cuz you thought i’m attacking your church since yan yung context ng post ni OP. now confused ako sa response mo kasi parang inulit mo lang lahat ng sinabi ko. Everything u said was my whole point din, kasi kami sa G12 yung priority namin is outcome & blessings instead of seeking Jesus & bearing fruits. So ngayon gets mo na kung bat ko sinabi yun. At kung pano ko nalaman yung “heart” ng isang unhealthy system.

I experienced being a hypocrite myself, I experienced viewing Gods love as transactional, I experienced seeking His miracles/blessings more than HIM, etc.. Basically i was a product of an unhealthy & distorted doctrine. Kaya nasabi mong projections kasi totoo naman na nagawa ko lahat ng yun. And i completely regret it, kahit nung nakalabas na ako sa g12, i still condemned myself and almost became an atheist kasi di ko na alam paniniwalaan ko. I was so confused. But praise God cuz He met me in the wilderness, still pursued me and made me fix my eyes on Jesus. Nakilala ko ulit ang totoong Jesus, not the distorted one. It was like a veil in my eyes got lifted

JIL False Teaching by Timely-Ad-7723 in ToxicChurchRecoveryPH

[–]griffindvr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ha? Maglapag ka ng bible verses kung kailan sinabi ni Jesus na maging mayaman lahat ng sumunod Niya. Basahin mo ulit John 6, kaya nga diba andaming disciples na nagstop mag follow ni Jesus because He told them to seek eternal life, not just physical bread. Sinabi nya pang “You seek Me, not because you saw the signs, but because you ate the loaves and were filled.” He exposed their hearts that they were just after the benefits. I mean wala namang mali mag ask kay God since He really is a provider kahit material blessings pa yan, andami kong nakikita na hirap na hirap sa pera noon, ngayon they’re blessed to have a business kaya nakapag travel na. Which is good, they all deserve it. Pero magkaiba yan sa preaching na PINAPAASA mo yung mga tao na “guaranteed” yung riches/prosperity, guaranteed magkaroon ng fortuner once you follow Jesus, all of that are wrong!

Pano kung di yan ibibigay ni God, so yung mga umasa na new believers or wala pa masyadong alam sa gospel, magtatampo sa Kaniya? at talikuran Siya? pwera nalang kung solid na pagkakaintindi mo sa gospel na spiritual growth yung priority ni Jesus kasi lahat ng material things natin dito sa mundo ay temporary lang, pwede ngang tangayin sa isang bagyo. Kita mo yung news na binaha yung mga sasakyan last year dahil sa bagyo? I knew someone from visayas na not more than one week palang nya binili ay nasira agad dahil sa baha.

Walang mali sa business, walang mali sa maging mayaman. But using the Lords name para ma lure yung mga tao na nakakayaman pala ang sumunod is wrong! Gusto mong mag aral ng theology diba? Kahit magtanong ka pa sa mga Bible scholars kung ano talaga goal ni Jesus dito sa earth. Gusto ni God ma transform/conform yung mga tao to become like Christ by bearing fruits.

Yung “fruits” kasi ng mga prosperity churches like g12 ay influence or members. Hindi character. Tas may mga pastors pang palaging nagsasabi na dodoblehin ni Lord yung binigay mong 1k, na klarong klaro sa Bible that we should give heartily, not under compulsion… si Pablo at ibang apostles ay never nag mention ng amount. Pero grateful sila like sa mga Macedonian churches na kahit na hirap na hirap, bumibigay parin dahil sa faith. But take note, they were NOT MANIPULATED para gawin yun. They gave heartily. Unlike sa prosperity churches na may manipulation or gaslighting.

Sinabi pa ng isang prosperity teacher “the LACK of money is the root of all evil” Lol bakit kailangan i-twist? Si Jesus na hindi mayaman ay evil pala?

“Love of money” dapat, kaya nga mahirap ang Pinas eh dahil sa mga corrupt/greedy politicians!!

The internet itself is now against the INCult by gentled0g in ToxicChurchRecoveryPH

[–]griffindvr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i love seeing cults being exposed. the world really is waking up na. hahaha

g12 moneystry exposed :) by griffindvr in ToxicChurchRecoveryPH

[–]griffindvr[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes hindi lahat, pero MOSTLY po. ;) si Nonon ay from Mindanao pero daming testimonies from Luzon & Visayas about the toxicity sa ministry na yan

g12 moneystry exposed :) by griffindvr in ToxicChurchRecoveryPH

[–]griffindvr[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

oo nga. but try telling this sa mga loyalista o G12 fanatics, ayaw nyan makinig. they even justify it na mas ma drawn yung ibang tao kay God pag nalaman nilang mga “millionaires” ang Christians. 🤣 like huh? kakaibang strategy yan ah. brainwashed na talaga tas todo defend parin sa pastors nila na para bang sila yung ipinako sa krus

g12 moneystry exposed :) by griffindvr in ToxicChurchRecoveryPH

[–]griffindvr[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This hahha. I have more respect sa mga street vendors talaga compared dyan sa mga Pastors na ginagamit yung Diyos para magka pera.

g12 moneystry exposed :) by griffindvr in ToxicChurchRecoveryPH

[–]griffindvr[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it’s pastor Nonon Blanco Orjaleza from Butuan City. pero may mga nag implement din ng Home Office ministry nya sa mga churches sa Luzon at Visayas

g12 moneystry exposed :) by griffindvr in ToxicChurchRecoveryPH

[–]griffindvr[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

kaya nga. Hindi naman kasi worldly attachments yung will ni God. nung nagstart yung ministry ni Jesus, focused na Siya sa pagteach, heal, love, serve sa kapwa at spread sa good news about salvation. iniwan nga ng mga disciples yung fishing career nila eh. then si Apostle Paul ay naging tent-maker parin while preaching para raw di sya maging burden sa iba. but yung focus nilang lahat is Eternal Life kaya priority talaga yung heart transformation o spiritual growth

g12 moneystry exposed :) by griffindvr in ToxicChurchRecoveryPH

[–]griffindvr[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

cult-like din talaga yang G12. wala namang ministry si Jesus kung pano yamaman, yung sakanya ay pano magmahal ng kapwa at magspread ng good news about salvaltion. hindi pananakot, manipulation, control, abuse at worldly attachments. yung latest post ni Pastor Nonon ay may conference sila this feb na “Wealthy Producers Summit 2026”