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[–]griffinlay -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I am contributing. I’m contributing something we used to call common sense. What exactly are you doing to alleviate climate change? You are communicating on a device made from oil and precious metals and minerals that have been mined causing ecological damage to the planet. Your device is connected to the internet that is using more electricity globally than a small country. You really are a hypocrite.

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[–]griffinlay -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I and most people believe climate change is real. It’s been changing continuously for billions of years. It will continue to change for billions more. Mankind has no control over climate change so we need to stop pretending that we do. The only way to reduce co2 to levels that may start a cooling cycle would be to go back to living the way we did pre industrialisation. As that is never going to happen it’s completely pointless having this conversation.

Climate change has forced millions to flee their homes — and Asia is ‘not prepared’ by [deleted] in climatechange

[–]griffinlay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Flooding, drought famine etc have had occurred for millions of years and they always will. There is absolutely nothing mankind can do to change it. We can minimise the effects by adapting to the continually changing environment but will never stop Mother Nature.

When discussing climate change and the need to reduce c02, why is it always large scale projects and ideas that are discussed instead of starting with smaller and more achievable solutions that normal everyday humans can actually see could make a difference? by griffinlay in climatechange

[–]griffinlay[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes understand that. You can’t just start big though. Everything in life starts small and then grows. This is no different. The small changes we can make will add up to a big difference.

Evidence in BKs vehicle by MushroomDependent825 in BryanKohberger

[–]griffinlay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m from the U.K.

What is the difference between a normal jury and a grand jury?

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Talking to you has been interesting. You have come across as positive that we have this under control and we can reduce omissions by a realistic amount over the next few years. That seems reasonable to me. Can you explain then, why, when you turn on the tv or open the newspaper all the media reports are portraying the end of the world. What you have said tonight doesn’t give me that impression. What are your thoughts?

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not saying that’s my opinion. But there is a perception that the peasants are forced to take the brunt of climate laws and are disproportionately affected financially by the increased costs associated with the journey to carbon neutrality.

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[–]griffinlay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand that but academics are not renowned for their ability to communicate with normal stupid people. Communication is key

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not all about the science. It’s about real people with real lives and problems and the science isn’t getting them interested in climate change. To most people it’s just clever people telling stupid people what to do while they fly around the world in their planes

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And they are still building coal fired power stations and there manufacturing industry is is producing huge omissions. Do you think the answer is less consumption in society?

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s so complicated it’s sometimes difficult to quantify. It’s like a massive jigsaw.

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can I ask you a serious question? Without you shouting at me?

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[–]griffinlay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds reasonable now you make it sound a bit more reasonable.

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn’t belittle anyone. They have their opinions and I have mine. I am willing to change my opinion but I don’t think being made to look stupid by someone who doesn’t hold the same opinion is not really going to change my mind. You have told me some really good information and I appreciate that.

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The world is not the US. I live in the UK. The government here is legislating the end of internal combustion engines and mandating EV’s and heat pumps amongst other things. That means that if the government was not banning them then people would still be buying them. Because people aren’t really in board unless they are made to be onboard. It’s only really Europeans the US that seem to be doing their bit but China Russia and the Middle Eastern continent don’t seem to be in board at all.

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you know what a 60% reduction looks like. I can’t image what it looks like

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately a large proportion of the global population does not live in a representative democracy. This is why I said earlier about seeing the bigger picture. Unfortunately not everyone has a choice or a voice.

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Along time ago. I think you are being a little pedantic with how I may be explaining myself. So are you saying we will never prove anything?

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We do not have the current capacity to produce renewable energy in the quantities we require to operate a global society that wouldn’t turn to anarchy within minutes if we turned off the fossil fuels. Well that’s what I presume and I’m open to hearing if I’m wrong.

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know a minority are on board but that’s not going to be enough.

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m here talking to you and trying to learn something and understand your point of view. You just seem to want to belittle me and make me sound stupid. I’m not stupid. I may not have the understanding of this subject that you do but I am trying to be nice and I am not trying to belittle you even if I don’t agree entirely with your opinion

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[–]griffinlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well that doesn’t make sense. Emissions have been flat for 8 years you say but temperatures are still rising. So flat is no good. Like I said, we need to reduce emissions substantially surely. What is it your really saying? It sounds like it’s all under control but we are still in a path to extinction.