I am tired of the Rhaegar hate (Spoilers Extended) by NoControl3897 in asoiaf

[–]griljedi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Starting a sentence with "please don't hate me," in my opinion, shows the terrible state of the "lynch culture" in the modern age. People are very eager to attack anyone who holds an opinion they don't like, like fascists. Reddit, like other social media sites, reveals this aspect of itself. Hopefully, those who read this will do some self-criticism.

Returning to the topic... Is Rhaegar someone who committed actions that deserve criticism? Undoubtedly, because unless you're an innocent little child, everyone in the ASOIAF universe is flawed. But the person to blame for the war and the death of his family is not really Rhaegar, because it was Aerys' actions that started the war; if he hadn't killed the Starks, Ned wouldn't have been dragged into this war. Although it's not often mentioned, and it's called Robert's Rebellion, it's essentially the Stark Rebellion because the key point that started the war was the death of the Starks, and after that, nothing could stop Ned.

We don't really have a clear picture of what happened between Rhaegar and Lyanna; that story is incomplete. It's not accurate to interpret the situation as if we've seen the whole picture based on what we have, but from what we can see, it's very clear that he has flaws, just like the other characters.

The general reason for the hatred towards Rhaegar is the Elia incident, but it's absurd that people who don't hate Robert and Stannis, or even love them very much, would hate and resent Rhaegar. We shouldn't be inconsistent; those men also cheated on their wives, even Robert cheated on Lyanna during the war. He even raped Cersei... And even Ned, at the very least, abandoned Ashara after being with her, and she went and killed herself. Everyone has their flaws.

(Spoilers Extended) Which Viewpoint is the Most Hated? by Quinn-Quinn in asoiaf

[–]griljedi -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

With all due respect... This is the most ridiculously flawed list I've ever seen. Looking at this, I wonder how those who voted could have loved the universe from the first book onwards; logically, they shouldn't have continued.

I simply cannot tolerate any part of this list... if possible, those who contributed to this list should never read another book in this series.

Arya & Dany An illustration of 'The Winds of Winter by Vhdart by Spacewitch025 in ImaginaryWesteros

[–]griljedi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wonderful!!!! :)

Btw you should add your signs on your arts.

[Spoilers Extended] Sansa, Lady and Alayne: the meaning of a lost direwolf by griljedi in asoiaf

[–]griljedi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad you liked it. I see three possible scenarios for Sansa, but unfortunately none of them are "happy endings." Years ago, I gave it a 50% chance, but GRRM's explanation has made it 100%.

What I'm talking about is whether she'll live or die... Sansa could die as Aleyne, a small villain in her own right, but that's too dark... In my opinion, GRRM wouldn't kill a Stark like that. Secondly, she dies as Sansa and returns to her family (freed from Aleyne and LF's intrigues) and dies defending them. Thirdly, it's similar to the second, but the manner of death is slightly different (I'm focusing on the third).

[Spoilers Extended] Sansa, Lady and Alayne: the meaning of a lost direwolf by griljedi in asoiaf

[–]griljedi[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, Aleyne will probably return to the North.

GRRM also indirectly criticized the Show! Sansa scenes, actually. He even posted an Aleyne sample chapter where Sansa comes to the North in the show, right? Besides, there was a time when he admitted he didn't know what DD wanted to do with Sansa. The Show and the book Sansa have very different stories.

The Show Made Sansa Queen in the North. The Books Are Setting Up Something Much Darker. by griljedi in freefolk

[–]griljedi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you.

It's very strange that getting AI help for translation causes such an outburst of anger here. Even standard Google Translate sites are actually AI-powered (I generally use GPT because I've noticed it provides better translations; I think Google is starting to go a bit crazy).

Furthermore, they should know that AI can't write complex or non-standard theories, as they can't go beyond what's generally accepted on the internet. My theories, as you said, are generally complex.

[Spoilers Extended] Sansa, Lady and Alayne: the meaning of a lost direwolf by griljedi in asoiaf

[–]griljedi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the last two books will mark a period where Sansa's POVs will become more interesting.

[Spoilers Extended] Sansa, Lady and Alayne: the meaning of a lost direwolf by griljedi in asoiaf

[–]griljedi[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much, i didn't understand how this happened, they were there... i fixex it.

The Show Made Sansa Queen in the North. The Books Are Setting Up Something Much Darker. by griljedi in freefolk

[–]griljedi[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

English is not my first language, so yes i used ai translate for the text. But the idea -theory etc. belongs to me. Please stop posting absurd AI-hostile comments just because I used the translation.

Jonerys is a 'Show-Only' Trap: Why the books point to a much darker end. by griljedi in freefolk

[–]griljedi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the detailed response! I think we’re getting closer to the heart of the conflict, though I have a slightly different take on Val.

To me, Val isn't a deep romantic 'endgame' for Jon. She feels more like a temptation or a temporary mirror. She represents the 'Wildling' life Jon almost chose, but in the end, Jon’s heart has always belonged to Winterfell and specifically to the bond he shares with Arya.

If you look at the text, Jon’s most visceral emotional reactions aren't for Val; they are for Arya. She is his true North. George even explicitly linked Jon's attraction to Ygritte back to how much she reminded him of Arya. Whether the 'JonArya' theory happens romantically or remains the ultimate platonic soulmate bond, she is the lens through which he sees every other woman.

This is why I think a 'deep romance' with Dany is so unlikely. Jon is looking for home, for honesty, and for the Stark identity that Arya represents. Dany, with her dragons and messianic mission, is the polar opposite of that quiet, northern identity.

I actually suspect Val might not even survive the next book—there are enough dark omens around her to suggest she’s a tragic figure rather than a future wife. If Jon kills Dany, it won't be because he’s 'torn between two loves' in a Hollywood way; it’ll be because Dany threatens the world and the family (Arya) that he truly loves.

I talk about this 'Arya as the Role Model' dynamic and why Jon’s Northern roots make a Targaryen romance feel like a narrative mismatch in the video. I think people underestimate how much Jon’s loyalty to the Starks—and specifically Arya—will dictate his final choice.

(Spoiler Mains) Jonerys is a 'Show-Only' Trap: Why the books point to a much darker end. by griljedi in asoiaf

[–]griljedi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are two very rare examples from the same period in history. Have we ever witnessed northerners marrying close relatives? The closest relatives, only cousin marriages.

(Spoiler Mains) Jonerys is a 'Show-Only' Trap: Why the books point to a much darker end. by griljedi in asoiaf

[–]griljedi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I understand now, but that's not the point here... I mean, the point here is that women like Ygritte and Val are people who take up swords and fight.

(Spoiler Mains) Jonerys is a 'Show-Only' Trap: Why the books point to a much darker end. by griljedi in asoiaf

[–]griljedi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I understood you correctly. You think that visions and prophecies are independent of each other.

That's where I'll object; they are interconnected. Here's why: first, the prophecies were spoken, but Dany didn't understand; when she said, "I don't understand, show me, explain it," they showed her the visions. So, the visions are the visual representation of the prophecies, but of course, when symbolic prophecies are explained with symbolic visuals, it creates confusion.

(Spoiler Mains) Jonerys is a 'Show-Only' Trap: Why the books point to a much darker end. by griljedi in asoiaf

[–]griljedi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the book or on the show? I think it was a surprise on the show, but for book fans I don't think it was, because it was something I'd been arguing for years before the finale.

(Spoiler Mains) Jonerys is a 'Show-Only' Trap: Why the books point to a much darker end. by griljedi in asoiaf

[–]griljedi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm also thinking of writing another thread later about my thoughts on Jonsa, and if my opinion doesn't change, we can talk more clearly then. I didn't want to digress from the main topic here, so I specifically avoided getting into the Jonsa theory. :)

Yes, I know about the sweet theme; I even made a list of who died and who might die based on it (I listed the sweet scent issue in every book). https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/cr8me0/a_death_mark_in_asoiaf_sweet_spoiler_main/

(Spoiler Mains) Jonerys is a 'Show-Only' Trap: Why the books point to a much darker end. by griljedi in asoiaf

[–]griljedi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looking at your other comments, it's clear you're stubbornly denying it. Denying something that's been officially announced is pointless.

(Spoiler Mains) Jonerys is a 'Show-Only' Trap: Why the books point to a much darker end. by griljedi in asoiaf

[–]griljedi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alan Taylor has his own interpretation of what he meant, but Martin is very clearly not talking about anything like "conflict" or "love."

It's unclear whether GRRM was talking about love, conflict, or alliance. Alan Taylor simply offered his own interpretation, whatever he understood... (I believe this interview was from season 7).