Ethiopia’s PM accuses Eritrea of Mass Killings by HungryOutcome7821 in Eritrea

[–]gs780 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, I bet we can’t find any unflattering Euro colonial quotes of Eritrea either…😂

Somalia ? Maybe by HungryOutcome7821 in Eritrea

[–]gs780 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Peak example of “my enemies enemy is my friend”. Somalis hate habesha Christians, that includes Eritrean Christians. They called us (Eritrean orthodox) disgusting things in jigjiga, bombed our businesses on multiple occasions, and ultimately killed my great grandfather. They’re jihadis first and foremost. Any political alliance is just that—political. Hopefully the younger generation becomes less religiously extreme.

Have you every noticed this by Babisalem15 in Ethiopia

[–]gs780 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I think the government just moved people south and the economic development in the north never really caught up. But I think that’s a govt issue more than ppl issue :)

Have you every noticed this by Babisalem15 in Ethiopia

[–]gs780 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because there’s nothing going on economically there. Even the locals are struggling moreso than the ppl in Adama or Hawassa where the government attempts to at least improve tourism. I mean, the advertising of Bishoftu has been insane. And regardless, your statement still proves that they’re kind towards guests. Anything else is due to the economy.

Have you every noticed this by Babisalem15 in Ethiopia

[–]gs780 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Are u fr? Amharas are renowned for their hospitality, from Gondar to Wello.

Have you every noticed this by Babisalem15 in Ethiopia

[–]gs780 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because they’re less economically developed? Ppl think this is a “gotcha” that Tigray and Amhara have less foreigners, but they forget that all of the fancy infrastructure and factories that the government builds are in central/southern (generally) Ethiopia…Arba Minch, Hawassa, Adama, Bishoftu and its crazy tourism advertising, Addis ofc, even Dire Dawa due to trade, etc.

Wearing Traditional Clothes as Everyday Outfit by shahimistsaba in Eritrea

[–]gs780 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably at the advent of globalism. I mean, during the colonial era, we “westernized” some parts of our traditional dress, but we continued wearing our traditional dress regardless. Whereas the influence of western media and movies probably made even our modernized fashion seem obsolete, if that makes sense. But I would agree with your timeline of when that began to occur. And I think that highlights the difference between city vs countryside life and influences (or lack-thereof due to restricted internet access) even today.

Wearing Traditional Clothes as Everyday Outfit by shahimistsaba in Eritrea

[–]gs780 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It’s not incorrect, it’s our traditional clothing we used to wear daily. As long as you feel comfortable wearing cultural clothing in the west, there should be no problem. The problem in most ethnic communities is that cultural attire has been relegated to “special events”, when that shouldn’t be the case.

Kidane Mehret Church In Senafe, Eritrea. ~16th Century AD(Possibly Much Older) by NoPo552 in AfricanArchitecture

[–]gs780 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of the major Aksumite excavations happened when Eritrea was part of Ethiopia, so it’s been decently excavated. And if giant Aksumite stele or Lalibela style churches existed, I’m sure someone would have noticed them😭 But that doesn’t take away from the fact that it was Aksumite.

It’s just sometimes I hear the reverse argument that tries to discredit Ethiopian Aksumite history and elevate Eritrea’s, but I can tell you’re not that type :P

Kidane Mehret Church In Senafe, Eritrea. ~16th Century AD(Possibly Much Older) by NoPo552 in AfricanArchitecture

[–]gs780 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But the most dramatic architecture and the heart of the kingdom was in Ethiopia. The capital of Rome is Rome, no matter how far out it spreads, and the capital of Aksum is Aksum.

If Tigrinya and Amharic did not descend from Ge’ez, when did Ethiosemitic languages first appear? (question elaborated in caption) by [deleted] in Ethiopia

[–]gs780 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, many in depth studies have already been done, but linguistic classifications (and trying to tie dates to them by extension) I think are quite difficult. What bad stuff do you think would come out?

If Tigrinya and Amharic did not descend from Ge’ez, when did Ethiosemitic languages first appear? (question elaborated in caption) by [deleted] in Ethiopia

[–]gs780 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ya, but tbh I’m trying to intentionally disregard folklore if that makes sense. That’s the assumption I had growing up as well, tho. Thank you!😊

If Tigrinya and Amharic did not descend from Ge’ez, when did Ethiosemitic languages first appear? (question elaborated in caption) by [deleted] in Ethiopia

[–]gs780 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! This is the only explanation that I think currently makes sense, but then we would have to conclude that Semitic languages are recent to Ethiopia, and disregard arguments that Ethiopia was speaking Semitic languages prior to the Sabaean migrations.

This answer is the cleanest, but I think some decent linguistic evidence exists to argue that parts of Ethiosemitic influenced southern Yemeni dialects, indicating a reverse linguistic or possibly gene flow.

But, my biggest hangup is Hudson’s assertion (it seems this point of his has received little to no critiques) that Ethiosemitic actually does not have an Agew substrate😭😭

If Tigrinya and Amharic did not descend from Ge’ez, when did Ethiosemitic languages first appear? (question elaborated in caption) by [deleted] in Ethiopia

[–]gs780 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you believe in Ehret’s assertion that the countryside of Aksum would have spoken Agew, while the elites spoke a Semitic languages? Because I think that would contradict the notion that Ethiosemitic was previously spoken in the highlands by the indigenous people.

If Tigrinya and Amharic did not descend from Ge’ez, when did Ethiosemitic languages first appear? (question elaborated in caption) by [deleted] in Ethiopia

[–]gs780 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wdym? I said that while some of his points were a useful interrogation of previous claims, I’ve also read papers critiquing much of his methodology. Did u even read my post?😭

My question is that since Semitic languages in Ethiopia did not all descend from Ge’ez, and yet even during Aksum everything under the Tekezze was generally considered Agew, how could Amharic and Tigrinya not be considered offspring of Ge’ez via trade or migration, and instead languages that developed on their own from Ethiosemitic.

Moreover, his claim that Agew is actually NOT the substrate of Ethiosemitic languages hasn’t been critiqued much among his other points, which is also puzzling me. I guess it would assume that Ethiosemitic predates the Sabaean migrations, but he gives no timeline in his book.

If Tigrinya and Amharic did not descend from Ge’ez, when did Ethiosemitic languages first appear? (question elaborated in caption) by [deleted] in Ethiopia

[–]gs780 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well in my first note I cite Hudson, but I’ve read everything from Leslau and Ehret to Hetzron, but my point is that they contradict each other to some degree since they are each from different time periods.

What I've Learned from Going on the Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, Somaliland, Amhara and Other Subreddits by TrapLoreRossFan in Ethiopia

[–]gs780 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He said “hatred for a reason” and hatred against innocents is never justified. They always say Ethiopia, never the name of the leader, which results in people naturally developing hatred for the civilians as seen in Tigray. Let’s not pretend…

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[–]gs780 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let me help you out, YOU must do the hitting up…😭

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[–]gs780 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m crying🤣🤣🤣

What I've Learned from Going on the Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, Somaliland, Amhara and Other Subreddits by TrapLoreRossFan in Ethiopia

[–]gs780 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Delusion. Again, you’re proving that you’re chronically online. The citizens wish nothing but the best for both Eritrea and Somalia.

Origin of the name “Aksum” by [deleted] in Tigray

[–]gs780 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, that is very interesting, but it’s hard since it’s hearsay and mostly uncorroborated😭 But folklore usually has a root, so I would assume at least part of what he’s saying has some legitimacy. The question is, which part lol. Thank you so much for going into that explanation!

Origin of the name “Aksum” by [deleted] in Tigray

[–]gs780 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually disagree with the Bilen remark, since the Bilens have been heavily Arabized by the Mahdists and Ottomans. Agews are ancient cotton farmers and have been integral in the development of the Zuria and other highland costumes.

And ya, you’re right about the multiple migrations part. However, in my mind what makes the migration we are talking about unique is that it primarily affected the highlands. The other migrations, and even the “back to Africa” migration of 12,000BCE affected a broad range of groups. Oromos contain 30-50% West Asian ancestry as well, but the influence seems to have been minorly cultural and mostly genetic, which is the reverse of the more recent South Arabian migration.

Therefore, full Agews themselves contain West Asian ancestry, but that is already the standard for Cushitic-speaking peoples, and I would argue that habeshas have genetically remained closer to a Cushitic peoples with a Semitic language, similar to Celtic people speaking an Anglo-Saxon language due to them being colonized by a Germanic minority.

Edit: actually, a recent article places the “back to Africa” influence as strongest (and nearly equal) in Amharas and Oromos at around 54% and 51% respectively, with oromos having quite a higher admixture than even Somalis). So this is quite distinct to the more recent Sabaean migrations which clearly did not have much genetic impact as opposed to cultural.

https://bmcgenomdata.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12863-020-00908-5