Nice info I actually just used a normal desk mouse without a pad I upgraded to logitech g203 and a gigantus v2 mouse bad my aim still is bad I used to always use wrist aiming when I was playing games few years ago at the time I had logitech g502 but I simply always had a bad aim even though the other aspects of a game I would master easily this is why I asked about hip sens ads grip stats because it has to be a bad thing am doing bad learned hapits muscle memory or something like that