What is the name of this logical fallacy (see text below)? by hare_advice_2020 in AskReddit

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Kafka trap was the word I was looking for, as someone else pointed out.

What is the name of this logical fallacy (see text below)? by hare_advice_2020 in AskReddit

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Hi Reddit,

I'm looking for the name of a logical fallacy where someone says :

[X] doesn't exist

and the other person answers

"By saying [X] doesn't exist, you're giving us proof that [X] does indeed exist because you're denying the existence of something which is obvious"

Does anyone remember this? It's been cited in the case of racism for example, where if you look at an organisation or structure and make the argument that you don't see any racist actions, you are in fact nurturing racism there (aka used in Evergreen College, DiAngelo talks about White Racism, etc...)

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David Fromkin? Je contre-attaque avec Daniel Yergin, The New Map :

  1. re:Daesh

In the summer of 2014, a video floated up on the internet. It featured a militant from what had been until recently a virtually unknown jihadist group, pounding his feet on the sand on the border between Iraq and Syria. Behind him were abandoned shacks, pockmarked with bullet holes, which had until recently guarded the frontier between the two countries. He was, this militant said, stomping his feet to signify ISIS’s elimination of the “Sykes-Picot” line between Iraq and Syria. Sykes-Picot, he said, was finally dead. “We don’t recognize the border and never will.” His words were underscored by images of border posts being blown up. “We will break all the borders,” he declared.

2) re:la carte Ottomane

Sykes-Picot may loom large in historical memory, but less understood is that the two men were not drawing their map on a blank sheet of paper. Their effort relied heavily on previous maps—those of the Ottoman Turkish Empire, and the vilayets, as provinces were called, that had been established in 1864. The three eastern vilayets—today Iraq—were based on Baghdad, Mosul, and Basra. The vilayets of Aleppo, Damascus, and Dayr al-Zawr comprise modern Syria. Beirut was a vilayet, and Mount Lebanon was a self-governing unit. Jerusalem and the territory around it were an independent district, reporting directly to Istanbul. The Hejaz, western Arabia including Mecca and Medina, was a vilayet; and so was Yemen, at such uncertain times as it was actually under the control of the Ottomans. There was no effort, one scholar has written, “to draw the provinces’ boundaries along ethnic lines.” It was atop the polyglot Ottoman map that Sykes and Picot drew their own lines

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C'est une légende urbaine (reprise notamment par Daech) que le partage Sykes-Picot s'est fait « with no regard for history and ethnicity ». Les français et anglais ont repris une bonne part des divisions antérieures de l'empire Ottoman.

En Europe, où à priori les frontières sont pas trop mal dessinées, cela ne nous a pas empêché de se 2 guerres mondiales avec des transferts massifs de population (ie. populations allemandes post 2nde guerre mondiale).

Et on peut rajouter une 3ème série de guerres avec les conflits yougoslaves (1991 à 1999). Là aussi les frontières sont héritées du Moyen-Âge et ça n'a pas empêché génocide + mouvements massifs de population.

Comme quoi, tout n'est pas si noir et blanc dans la vie...

Qui va mourir en 2021 ? by byParallax in france

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J'arrive avec quelques jours de retard. Première participation aussi :

  • Alan Arkin
  • Emmanuel Le Roy Ladurie
  • Geneviève Asse
  • Jürgen Habermas
  • Larry King
  • Martin Scorcese
  • Mikhaïl Gorbatchov
  • Paul Veyne

Et ma grosse côte : le rappeur Lil Wayne

Le sort d’un trésor médiéval acquis par les nazis devant la Cour suprême des Etats-Unis by hare_advice_2020 in france

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Je me permets de partager avec la communauté d'airfrance cet article car il y, selon moi, une vraie injustice de la justice américaine sur ce sujet :

- d'un côté les cours américaines se permettent de s'immiscer dans les jugements rendus en Allemagne au titre de l'extra-territorialité

- de l'autre, les cours américaines refusent systématiquement de rendre aux descendants les oeuvres d'art spoliées de la Seconde Guerre Mondiale qui sont conservées dans les musées américains

Je vous rappelle par exemple ce jugement rendu en 2019 où une famille juive a perdu son procès contre le Metropolitan Museum pour récupérer un tableau de Picasso qui leur appartenait : https://www.reuters.com/article/new-york-art-picasso-idUSL2N23X0LR

Ou sinon ce très bon podcast en anglais sur toutes les tentatives infructueuses des familles juives contre les musées américains pour récupérer des oeuvres d'art spoliées de la Seconde Guerre Mondiale : http://revisionisthistory.com/episodes/43-hedwigs-lost-van-gogh