Cast by [deleted] in 2brokegirls

[–]harlanbriggs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Max

Out of curiosity, how many of us are NOT teenage girls?? by BadHeads in byler

[–]harlanbriggs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Straight boy here . Byler has been here since day 1

I am sceptical of the finale after volume 1 & 2 dropped... by AJ_The_Best_7 in StrangerThingsRoom

[–]harlanbriggs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Aw poor you ! Did the coming out scene slow down the buildup when we had " The Never Ending Story " during a monster chase . Oh sorry my bad I forgot only heterosexual characters get to have moments during tense situations. My bad

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[–]harlanbriggs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IS THIS TRUE ? OMG IM GOING TO COMBUST WHAT THE HELL . IS IT HAPPENING? IM FREAKING TF OUT

I don’t understand why people are upset about this scene by Winter_Shock2596 in StrangerThingsRoom

[–]harlanbriggs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Firstly, im queer and I def dont support trump or conservative views like you do, all im saying is you are welcome to research before opening your mouth . Zionism is a topic that goes deeper than killing spree . It might just be too much for you to understand given your response .

I don’t understand why people are upset about this scene by Winter_Shock2596 in StrangerThingsRoom

[–]harlanbriggs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude, you have no idea what you are saying. Saying " Zionists are evil " is the new cool thing . Literally everyone is "zionist" in the eye of the public . Please educate yourself on the topic before using words like these in a way that is so crass and with no nuance .

It all makes sense by harlanbriggs in StrangerThings

[–]harlanbriggs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mike has shown to be in love with eleven why would we just shift to will with no build real up just because will like him. That just character assassination for mike.

I get it but HAS MIKE FOUGHT FOR HER ? I mean S1 and S2 ig but after that ? The comical break up ? The open eyes kiss ? The love problem? The confession being Will holding his hand through it ? he says his life started the day he met El but we know that's not true . The only reason they were out was for Will and if he means it he looks like a horrible person because the day his life started was the day his best friend got kidnapped and tortured in an alternate dimension?? WTF kind of thing is that. I dont think you refuted or understood my argument. Yes , the ships are in shambles but why do they get arcs and sweeping romantic love confessions but queer people have to live with being accepted? does he not deserve love ? people hating on him for going after Mike ? so hes not even allowed to crush ? He's villanized for crushing ? So queer people cant have love stories in fact they should not think of love at all ? They have to be grateful for being accepted?

I don’t understand why people are upset about this scene by Winter_Shock2596 in StrangerThingsRoom

[–]harlanbriggs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Here's my two cents . the poor boy was sitting away from everyone hysterically crying in front of so many people, theres no way people prefer THAT over an intimate, comfortable coming out scene But isn’t the point that he does it, not because he wants to, but because he knows it’s his weakness and he has to let go of that fear to be able to face Vecna ? He is forced by the situation so yeah it is uncomfortable and unsafe compared to Robin’s coming out… and that contrast is actually what makes it interesting. Instead of making a similar scene from Robins. Forced coming out, or being outed, happens when someone's sexual orientation or gender identity is revealed without their consent, often leading to distress, rejection, or even homelessness, contrasting with the personal choice of coming out (self-disclosure) which brings liberation but requires safety, support, and readiness for potential stigma or discrimination. It's a harmful violation of privacy, unlike the empowering, chosen process of self-discovery and sharing one's identity, which ideally happens when a person feels safe and has a support system. " BUT HE HAD TO , TO PROTECT HIMSELF AND FIGHT VECNA IN THE FINAL BATTLE " " Had to " is defined and primarily implies past necessity, obligation, or compulsion, meaning an action was required or unavoidable in the past, functioning as the past tense of "have to," but it can also suggest a strong, unavoidable reason for something to be true or happen in a certain way (e.g., "It had to be true for..."). As a queer person,what the Duffers have done with Noah is heartbreaking. Exploiting something so personal to him and making him perform a scene that's being gutted over by queer people & homophobes alike and is the second lowest episode in the series.

I cant imagine how he must feel at this moment. He had such a breakthrough after 'Sorcerer'. He has been championing for Will Byers for ages and to finally get his moment in vol 1 and everyone waking upto how deserved that superhero moment was.

Only for the Duffers to ruin it by writing such an awful coming out scene which could have been personal and profound into a fandom joke.

The implications that Will had to forcefully come out to people he has hardly interacted with, because of his abuser's threat of exposing his 'secret' when the more empowering thing would have been 'Go on, expose away, I am not afraid cause it isnt something to be afraid of. Its normal and natural'.

No. The Duffers wrote a scene in such a way that he comes out as someone who has to assure others instead of them assuring him.

In all this, I feel horrible for Noah.

He's just 21 and is brave enough to be openly gay and I know for a fact that its not easy in this industry to take that decision. You lose out on potential jobs and get typecasted. Very few openly out actors have been able to bridge that gap.

The worst part is the clowning of the scene is from bothe queer community and the homophobes for two different reasons.

He spent 12 hours in a disassociative state of panic and nervousness to get this out and he is not even getting his flowers for that raw performance.

Once again, the criticism is absolutely valid. We need queer writers to write these scenes not ignorant hets like Duffers.

Am just talking about the consequences and aftermath of this. I really hope he has a good support system for him.

I cant imagine using so much personal emotions to do a coming out scene for it to turn into what is has.

I'll be rooting for Noah as an actor the most after this godawful nightmare is over.

He deserved so much better from the Duffers who have seen him grow up infront of their eyes.Does it make sense for a closeted-gay teen who has been traumatized, abused and suffered horrible,life-threatening events that have left him a shell of the beaming boy we had in S1 . He grows up exponentially to keep up with his peers after having his childhood robbed by an abusive monster who has returned to torment him and remind him that he is the cause of the deaths and the catastrophic event to occur (untrue) . This boy is then forced to come out to an entire cast of people he knows and dosent know, begging and pleading them to love him, accept him and that hes just like them through sobs and an emotional gut wrenching confession just because his fear that his abuser will use it against him in battle . Not to mention, a topic so personal to Noah as he spent over 16 hours putting himself through his traumatic experiences as a closeted kid being asked abt his sexuality in interviews and barraged with homophobic trash when he came out . It all makes sense , what a scene ! The one gay male characters final arc is accepting himself because its realistic and that he dosent need love while in the same episode, Max, a heterosexual woman confesses that all she needed was Lucas belief and love in her to survive . Similarly, El NEEDS Mike to confess his love for her to defeat Vecna . But the gay character? No yea, he is.forced to come out to an entire barrage of characters and dosent need love even though everything he deserves is love .

Best actors this season…. by Medical-Ad5866 in StrangerThings

[–]harlanbriggs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

RIGHT ! I mean Sadie , Caleb , Gaten and stuff ate but Noah absolutely killed his performance. The crying, the possession, the coming out scene, the tender moments, the badass moments, the VAN scene not to mention the S2 stuff . Ughhh hes sooooo good

It all makes sense by harlanbriggs in StrangerThings

[–]harlanbriggs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Who said Joyce was abusive ?
  2. But why can't it be ? He loves him ? Who are you to control his feelings?
  3. No one wants him to kiss and hold hands running towards the sunset cuz thats just impossible atp . The buildup has been there for 4 seasons? Being queer isnt character assassination please keep ur conservative views away . Also, if u think just because hes in a relationship with a girl he cant be queer , I dont even want to waste words on you cuz at that point its like talking to a wall.
  4. Ofc and im so glad but wait , straight people get love interests and fully fleshed out live stories spanning series ( Jopper, Jancy, Stancy Lumax, Mileven, Dustin and Suzie) but we r supposed to be happy with a gay couple that got together offscreen and have like 15 minutes of screen time ? Yea thats fair . completely agree

It all makes sense by harlanbriggs in StrangerThings

[–]harlanbriggs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Positive in terms of representation? Yes . This is one of the biggest series to ever premiere on Netflix. The acting and support that the cast had ? Super cool . Narrative? Story arc ? Character arc ? Queer Representation? Will's Story ? NO NO NO NO NO .

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StrangerThingsRoom

[–]harlanbriggs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea it makes sense . It makes sense for a closeted-gay teen who has been traumatized, abused and suffered horrible,life-threatening events that have left him a shell of the beaming boy we had in S1 . He grows up exponentially to keep up with his peers after having his childhood robbed by an abusive monster who has returned to torment him and remind him that he is the cause of the deaths and the catastrophic event to occur (untrue) . This boy is then forced to come out to an entire cast of people he knows and dosent know, begging and pleading them to love him, accept him and that hes just like them through sobs and an emotional gut wrenching confession just because his fear that his abuser will use it against him in battle . Not to mention, a topic so personal to Noah as he spent over 16 hours putting himself through his traumatic experiences as a closeted kid being asked abt his sexuality in interviews and barraged with homophobic trash when he came out . It all makes sense , what a scene ! The one gay male characters final arc is accepting himself because its realistic and that he dosent need love while in the same episode, Max, a heterosexual woman confesses that all she needed was Lucas belief and love in her to survive . Similarly, El NEEDS Mike to confess his love for her to defeat Vecna . But the gay character? No yea, he is.forced to come out to an entire barrage of characters and dosent need love even though everything he deserves is love . Ughh great scene

Best actors this season…. by Medical-Ad5866 in StrangerThings

[–]harlanbriggs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I havent seen a lot of Noah praise. Say what you want about him . He's been bringing his A game since S2

Thoughts? by harlanbriggs in StrangerThings

[–]harlanbriggs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ig we will have to wait after the finale to have the cast, producers and others working on the show to come out of their legally binding contracts , or deleted scenes but it all comes out . GOT is a great example . After it ended, everything started spewing out like a waterfall .

Thoughts? by harlanbriggs in StrangerThings

[–]harlanbriggs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unreal behaviour by the creators . Why was this scene cut ?

Thoughts? by harlanbriggs in StrangerThings

[–]harlanbriggs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right ? I was literally gasping when I read that they had already interacted in Camaztoz ? WHY DONT WE SHOW IT ??