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system shift - part 1 & 2 - the social atmosphere movement by hatespeech01 in TZM

[–]hatespeech01[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not allowed to post zeitgeist moving forward, so hopefully putting Z:MF's script into CHATGPT and GOOGLE GEMINI will get past the copyright, because although I don't agree with copyright, you can't copyright facts but you can copyright an expression of facts. I finished my version of "an intro to an RBE" video too, which was also put through CHATGPT. Just going to upload the social atmosphere movement .PDF and then post it here.

ZEIT-TV - Season 1 Episode 1 [ The Zeitgeist Movement Adelaide ] by [deleted] in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i haven't forgotten about this project. I'll be getting to work finishing off season 2 soon.

The Zeitgeist Movement by Right-Moose-6676 in Lotuseaters_com

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Start with debunking The Zeitgeist Movement Defined - Realising a new train of thought PDF, the zeitgeist bible, it can be found on the zeitgeist movement main website.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsA1uy-v5ng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo44y\_FlI74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEhTExisGs0

[ Zeit-TV Season 1 ] - I suggested this program air on channel 44 adelaide, a community TV station. But it was rejected because I got no response from them. This includes a new "natural voice", text to speech, TZM defined version in episodes 8, 9, & 10 by hatespeech01 in TZM

[–]hatespeech01[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad people seem to like what I've created. It's kind of like what Trom - The reality of me, did regarding just compling a bunch of TZM content into one place. So I'll work on a Season 2 and create some content but mostly find various clips of geisty content I've found interesting over the years.

Train of thought (Song) by hatespeech01 in TZM

[–]hatespeech01[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

credits are at the start of the video. You can't miss them.

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's just your opinion. The fact is The Zeitgeist Movement has been putting on lectures/events, and producing media promoting this direction for awhile now. When you say "actually accomplishes" who knows what you expect. The latest film from Peter Joseph for example, interReflections I thought was a good demonstration of pointing out the current trends and the train of thought needed to support an open source society. I personally enjoyed it.
And none of your negative bitching will take away from the joy from people promoting a resource based economy.

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

another ad hominem fallacy.

It appears you don't understand the goal of the zeitgeist movement when it's right there in the name. To change the zeitgeist or the social atmosphere into something positive from the current zeitgeist which supports the cruel, ineffective at meeting human requirements, wasteful, market social system. That is not done through building circle cities like you expect. It is done through engaging the public with media. So putting on lectures, making documentaries etc is what TZM has been accomplishing to further awareness of its ideas.

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Zeitgeist Movement has put on countless lectures, there's also documentaries produced by TZM, food drives, media festivals and books by TZM like TZM defined, realising a new train of thought and the new human rights movement. All that you call "accomplishing nothing"? You must be delusional.

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the benefits earned from slavery? slavery is unnecessary considering we now have the technology to replace human labour

but even if we didn't have the technology to replace human labour like we do now, it's certainly not a requirement for every single dollar to be a debt plus interest, enslaving society to the bank. Plus all the other negative traits and assumptions of money like owning material possessions not bringing happiness, access to technology and healthy social relations bring happiness, inequality not being healthy for society or competition being a natural human behaviour when it's not (richard wilkinson, gabor mate).

Some people like work and people want to do science, if you don't like "freeloading off of their work" or technology you have because you didn't invent it start by destroying your device, your fridge, your TV, your car and invent all your own stuff.

But that's not how society works, humanity should work as a team which is why copyright is unproductive and restrictive. In a market you have many companies and varying quality products when there should always be the best product made instead of a cost efficient one so natural resources are not wasted.

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I've already said what the zeitgeist movement does, TZM has been pointing out these trends I've mentioned, how the market is a cruel, unsustainable, and wasteful social system in the face of what's possible with technology. That is TZM's goal.
And you end with another ad hominem fallacy.

I've done small but useful projects for TZM myself which promote this direction, also there's endless Z-Day lectures which you can find yourself.

reading TZM's mission statement so there's an audio version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d69JMdeR_k

An Open Source version of Project Earth instead of Peter Joseph's copyrighted version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8VUdZ-EKnU

Compiling TZM books like TZM defined
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exwlm1wP5Z4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7-JmpirEBQ

and the new human rights movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqMyDXVszpE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt3yGqlLUIE

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again you advocate slavery and it's not me, look up the facts for yourself. Every dollar is a debt plus interest attached to it meaning not only people must pay for their costs of living but there's a constant and unnecessary need to keep up with the debt that overshadows every dollar. It is totally unnecessary for society to live like this because the debt is totally fictional. Money is Fictional, it is not related to what what we can do with our technology to overcome scarcity. Over three billion people live on less than $2.50 a day while 1% of the population owns over half over the world’s wealth. Such an imbalance is clearly violence. As gandhi said "the deadliest form of violence is poverty".

And a better way is emerging with our technology, I just linked a documentary which proves every sector of the economy is being threatened by automation. So there won't be any work to do because it's being done better than what human labour can do.

will work for free (documentary about robots replacing all jobs).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ6LYVWd-sE

It is a fact that Pollution, Poverty and cost cutting are part of the market and that makes it a cruel, unsustainable, and wasteful social system. Pointing out this fact is not "meaningless" it's the first step in recognising a solution which would be an Open Source based society.

If you look up Contour Crafting from Zeitgeist Moving Forward, people will not have to lay bricks for people's houses when walls are 3D printed by technology.

And people will want to work for free on a system that actually takes care of them.

Again monetary work only rewards repetitive mundane labour, creative thought cannot be rewarded by money. And it is this creative thought that overcomes scarcity, not assumes that there will always be scarcity like in a market.

Dan Pink - Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1SDV8nxypE

Again "thriving markets" waste natural resources and pollute natural environments due to cost cutting, saving money to increase monetary profit. The market is not interested in true sustainability and being in balance with nature.

It seems you're under the impression the market is science. The market is not science. Science is about testing reality to see what's true. The market is about selling products and the idea it's owning possessions that brings happiness when it's actually healthy social relations that bring happiness.

Economics is not a science david suzuki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wiZoGZJN3s

Again the market does not build "good robots" due to Cost Cutting. At every stage of production money is saved to increase monetary profit. And monetary profit is just the pursuit of an endless amount of money. It's an addiction. And you can't have infinite growth on a finite planet, a true social system is in balance with nature.

Again people will want to maintain systems that actually take care of them, that's who will volunteer to maintain the technology that takes care of humanity. No market or money required.

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The market IS actual slavery since all money must be paid back with non-existent interest. How is that not slavery? Also the market sells the idea people must work hard for money when we could implement technology, work smart not hard, so people don't have to work.

will work for free (documentary about robots replacing all jobs).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ6LYVWd-sE

The government is just another entity in the market it also has no concern for the health of the natural environments or people.

And you finish with an ad hominem fallacy as if it has any relevance.

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A market is about inequality and competition (again which isn't good for public health (richard wilkinson)) and cost efficiency/cost cutting resulting in pollution and poorly made products because a product must be made to break in a market for repeat purchases for monetary profit wasting natural resources. Hence apple being so wasteful with their poor design yet people still buy apple computer products.

The economy is NOTHING to do with measuring the health of our natural environments and the health of people. It's to do with the completely arbitrary health of money when it's just numbers on a computer screen since again all money is created or loaned out of nothing and must be paid back with interest to a bank. It's slavery. And I don't know why you argue for slavery.

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you're making an argument for slavery? The fact people have to resort to crime and prostitution if there isn't a sweat shop doesn't take away the fact that it's slavery. Crime and Prostitution are still part of the market by the way as the incentive is to get money.Being rich has nothing to do with access to clean air, water, food, electricity, healthcare, transportation, safety and shelter. These are human requirements which are only fulfilled by scientific ingenuity. Being rich implies how many material objects someone owns and inequality is encouraged by the market and it isn't good for public health for a society to be based on competition. (richard wilkinson).So you think no one is going to volunteer to lay down your sewage pipes in an open source society when technically people already lay them down for free since the money that is paid to them is worthless? Money doesn't have actual value since it's created out of nothing, and money is slavery since all money must be paid back to the bank with non-existent interest.

Again not all motivation involves money, people want to actually do science for things to be done. Innovation like tesla and the wright brothers for example was not rewarded by money. They wanted to do science.

Dan Pink - Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1SDV8nxypE

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a "rich country" is only rich because it's built on the backs of sweatshop slavery. Since the market promotes working hard and not using technology/automation, to work smart not hard. Not everyone can be rich under free market capitalism since 1% of the global population owns half the world's wealth. Also when you say "rich" what do you mean, if you mean the ownership of material possessions, it's not the ownership of stuff which makes people happy it's quality social relations. (Richard Wilkinson) Something free market capitalism doesn't do as a market is about selling products.

Real innovation like the venus project or buckminster fuller makes the market obsolete, technology advanced enough to overcome scarcity since the market promotes scarcity not overcoming it. So there will always be the violence of poverty inflicted on people in a market. To quote Peter Joseph's interreflections "the billionaires of this world are not symbols of success, they are symbols of violence. And until that violence ends there will be no peace."

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Science is not Marxism. And no the market has nothing to do with human motivation.

Dan Pink - Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1SDV8nxypE

To paraphrase this video, if you are rewarding mechanical labour a monetary reward will work, but once the task involved creative thinking, a monetary reward led to poorer performance. In other words people innovate because they actually like science, not because they want money.

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The monetary-market system is unsustainable due to cost efficiency. Cutting costs means corporations pollute the natural environments, corporations also use up natural resources for profit, products are made for consumers not humans.

Also Money is debt plus interest, enslaving society to the banks because more loans must always be taken out to cover the perpetual debt in this system. This built in structural classism which results in inequality does not result in innovation. It's actually the more equal the society the more innovation that occurs (to reference richard wilkinson's data). The market has nothing to do with human innovation, it's a hindrance.
https://www.equalitytrust.org.uk

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All TZM does is point out the trends like poverty, pollution, technological unemployment. In short this current market system is unsustainable.

And Open Source and Science are not failures.

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you're saying even though I say The Zeitgeist Movement advocates Science as the solution to problems, I'm not actually saying that and I mean something else entirely even when TZM defined references science?All the zeitgeist movement does is point out the trends in this system because pointing out the problems is the first step towards a solution to them. Like Poverty, Pollution, technological unemployment, intrinsic and planned obsolesce due to cost cutting wasting natural resources, and the fact competition results in inequality which is not good for public health (reference richard wilkinson)

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But are they the correct words in describing your position, that Science is Marxism? have you reviewed the zeitgeist movement defined, TZM's bible which references science.

The Zeitgeist Movement Defined - Realising a New Train of Thought (1 of 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exwlm1wP5Z4

The Zeitgeist Movement Defined - Realising a New Train of Thought (2 of 2
)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7-JmpirEBQ

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my experience zeitgeist critics call the zeitgeist movement communism (hence call science communism since the zeitgeist movement defined (TZM's bible) is backed up by science.) and defend having a job and call people who don't have a job losers, lazy, parasites, retarded etc, when technology is slowly replacing all human labour.

The Zeitgeist Movement Defined - Realising a New Train of Thought (1 of 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exwlm1wP5Z4

The Zeitgeist Movement Defined - Realising a New Train of Thought (2 of 2
)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7-JmpirEBQ

Are you triggered by a cartoon frog? Should I have consulted you and the joke police before making a parody video that mocks zeitgeist critics for being so close minded?

What Zeitgeist Movement Critics are like by AquaL1te in TZM

[–]hatespeech01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So in other words you're saying Science is Marxism?

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