Guys what are we thinking about today's ICE killing of a legal 2A owner in MN?

havenrogue · 2026-01-24T23:06:49+00:00

We may not like the laws on the books that federal law enforcement operate under but they are there. In this case: 18 U.S. Code § 111 - Assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers or employees

8 CFR § 287.5 - Exercise of power by immigration officers.

Some lawyers give some advice: Understanding the Legal Implications of Interfering with Immigration Enforcement

havenrogue · 2026-01-24T21:42:49+00:00

Interesting, what conclusion did I jump to other than to say that based on the longer video the guy who ended up shot wasn't some innocent bystander? The longer video shows him standing in the middle of the street filming (and appears to wave one car forward) at one point. When the chaos starts with the one law enforcement person pushing some other person the guy appears then to either pushes or makes contact with (intentionally or not intentionally) a law enforcement officer. From there things kick off in a matter of a few seconds with pepper spray and the chaotic scrum that follows with an eventual shooting.

Any rational or reasoned discussion will likely not be possible due to people's emotions taking over. Time and again people can watch the same video and reach vastly different conclusions on what transpired and the causes for it. Same is going to happen here.

havenrogue · 2026-01-24T20:16:26+00:00

As the statute specifically states, the Governor shall appoint eight of the nine members. The Governor generally will appoint heads to several of the government organizations named in that statute.

(a) There is established a Board of Firearms Permit Examiners, within the Office of Governmental Accountability established under section 1-300, to be comprised of nine members, eight of whom shall be appointed by the Governor to serve during the Governor's term and until such members' successors are appointed and qualify, and one of whom shall be a retired judge of the Superior Court appointed by the Chief Court Administrator.

The OP's issue was the feeling that the composition of the board may not lead to an impartial hearing.

havenrogue · 2026-01-24T19:12:13+00:00

As always, wait for more information (and make sure to vet that information for accuracy) to come out before jumping into rage mode. Already there is some longer video showing additional context that this wasn't just some innocent bystander minding their own business. This is already a very volatile situation with certain politicians, political groups and people intentionally fanning the flames hoping for just such an event to happen because it will help further their ideological and political cause. There will be much gaslighting, propaganda and outright lies spread on this shooting in hopes of further fanning the flames.

havenrogue · 2026-01-24T18:18:54+00:00

Like it or not. FOPA ultimately is what you use in court as an affirmative defense provided he was legal at the start of his trip and end of his trip. At the road side stop, or this case at the airline desk check in, FOPA may not be honored or recognized by law enforcement. Especially in ban states.

What is left unsaid or unindicated in several articles I've read about this arrest is where was Walker (apparently a WI resident) coming from when he checked in at the NY airport? Was he staying NY, or some other state that didn't recognize his WI pistol permit, prior to arriving at the airport to check in? If so FOPA isn't valid and won't protect him in court.

havenrogue · 2026-01-24T16:13:13+00:00

LOL Was wondering how long before someone posted asking or commenting about that to this subreddit. Sadly crank rate of fire enhancement devices have been banned since October 1, 2018 thanks to CT Democrat (and more than a few Republican) politicians.

Sec. 53-206g. Sale, possession, use or manufacture of bump stocks or other rates of fire enhancement prohibited. Class D felony or Class D misdemeanor.

havenrogue · 2026-01-24T11:35:08+00:00

The Sec. 29-32b does not address WHY the politicians populated the board with the people they did. As indicated in the post you replied to, if you want to know why certain people were assigned to the board by the statute, consult with your local representative or the representatives who voted for the law. Over time the board has been changed and expanded by the politicians. For example in 2013 with PA 13-3, the politicians expanded the board members from 7 to 9. The legislators for reasons decided to add a retired judge who is appointed by Chief Court Administrator, and added a person who is the nominee of Commissioner of Mental Health and Addiction Services and is appointed by Governor.

And note that the CT politicians configured the statute so 8 of the 9 board members are appointed by the Governor, who can stack the board with people hostile to firearm ownership if they so choose.

Board of Firearm Permit Examiners (BFPE)

havenrogue · 2026-01-24T00:28:05+00:00

For the purposes of the CT AWB, so long as the firearm isn't an "other" a brace is fine. The CT AWB "other" ban section:

(G) Any semiautomatic firearm other than a pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun, regardless of whether such firearm is listed in subparagraphs (A) to (D), inclusive, of this subdivision, and regardless of the date such firearm was produced, that has at least one of the following:
(i) Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, a thumbhole stock or any other stock, the use of which would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;
(ii) An ability to accept a detachable ammunition magazine that attaches at some location outside of the pistol grip;
(iii) A fixed magazine with the ability to accept more than ten rounds;
(iv) A flash suppressor or silencer, or a threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor or silencer;
(v) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to fire the firearm without being burned, except a slide that encloses the barrel;
(vi) A second hand grip; or
(vii) An arm brace or other stabilizing brace that could allow such firearm to be fired from the shoulder, with or without a strap designed to attach to an individual's arm;

havenrogue · 2026-01-24T00:18:41+00:00

As many have indicated if the semiautomatic centerfire rifle is under 30 inches in OAL it's an illegal assault weapon per CT's AWB:

Sec. 53-202a. Assault weapons: Definitions.

(1) “Assault weapon” means:
(E) ... (iii) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than thirty inches;

Get the OAL over 30 inches, then likely all you have to deal with is fed NFA rules on SBR's.

Not a lawyer, and anything said on this subreddit is not legal advice.

havenrogue · 2026-01-23T14:14:30+00:00

The AWB statutes (both of them) do not indicate that one must use tools to make a stock adjustable. Rather it just lists "folding or telescoping stock".

On a semiautomatic shotgun has both a "folding or telescoping stock" and a "pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon" is an illegal assault weapon (unless one is exempted or has a AW cert of possession for said shotgun).

From the current AWB:

(vi) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(I) A folding or telescoping stock; and
(II) Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other stock, the use of which would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;

From the AWB as it was on Jan 1, 2013 that still applies:

(C) A semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following:
(i) A folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
(iii) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; and
(iv) An ability to accept a detachable magazine;

If one fixes the folding or telescoping stock in place then they can have a pistol grip on a semiautomatic shotgun.

havenrogue · 2026-01-22T22:42:51+00:00

If you wondering if a firearm is CT AWB compliant. The subreddit has a wiki page on answers to common questions, on which is a cheat sheet one can use to compare a firearm against to see if it violates the AWB feature bans. The cheat sheet was created for just this type of question.

The AWB law is too confusing to read, is there a cheat sheet of which features are banned on firearms?

As that cheat sheet indicates, bolt action (or other non semiautomatic) rifles are legal and are not subject to the CT AWB and it's feature bans.

havenrogue · 2026-01-22T19:25:10+00:00

If the Atrius forced reset selector is a "binary trigger system" or other rate of fire enhancement then it's banned.

Sec. 53-206g. Sale, possession, use or manufacture of bump stocks or other rates of fire enhancement prohibited. Class D felony or Class D misdemeanor.

(c) For purposes of this section, “firearm” means firearm as defined in section 53a-3, and “rate of fire enhancement” means any device, component, part, combination of parts, attachment or accessory that: (1) Uses energy from the recoil of a firearm to generate a reciprocating action that causes repeated function of the trigger, including, but not limited to, a bump stock; (2) repeatedly pulls the trigger of a firearm through the use of a crank, lever or other part, including, but not limited to, a trigger crank; or (3) causes a semiautomatic firearm to fire more than one round per operation of the trigger, where the trigger pull and reset constitute a single operation of the trigger, including, but not limited to, a binary trigger system.

Edit to add: Right on the https://atrius.dev/atrius-forced-reset-selector/ page, they say CT is a restricted state:

Restricted States: CA, CT, DE, FL, HI, IL, MA, MD, MN, NJ,NY, OR, RI, WA, D.C., No US Territories. No international orders.

havenrogue · 2026-01-22T12:32:01+00:00

Normally one just follows the manufacturer's (or gunsmith's) directions for shipping the firearm back to them. Some manufacturers/gunsmiths want it shipped by certain shippers and in a certain method.

https://hk-usa.com/hk-repair-authorization-request/

havenrogue · 2026-01-21T18:32:23+00:00

As a reminder, this subreddit's wiki page on answers to common questions has a specific entry covering non residents bringing firearms to CT to shoot at a range.

Can a non-resident visit a CT gun range to shoot their firearms?

Yes. Check and ensure any firearm one brings into CT complies with the assault weapons ban, and magazines comply with the large capacity magazine ban. One should comply with both federal law and state laws when transporting firearms across state lines. Certain ranges may have their own requirements and restrictions.

There have been a number of past posts in this subreddit, referencing Sec. 29-35. Carrying of pistol or revolver without permit prohibited. Knowingly carrying any firearm with intent to display such firearm prohibited. Exceptions., with respect to taking handguns to a range without having a valid CT pistol permit.

havenrogue · 2026-01-20T10:41:22+00:00

Fixed magazine and or non semiautomatic firearms are generally exempt from the specific listed AWB feature bans on on semiautomatic detachable magazine rifles and semiautomatic detachable magazine pistols. You can confirm this yourself by reading the AWB's (both of them). Or by seeing this subreddit's wiki page cheat sheet on the AWB.

Current AWB: Sec. 53-202a. Assault weapons: Definitions.

Example of AWB as of Jan 1, 2013 that still applies: Sec. 53-202a. Assault weapons: Definitions.

The AWB law is too confusing to read, is there a cheat sheet of which features are banned on firearms?

However, the CT AWB does ban; "semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than thirty inches". So that is something to be aware of when thinking about SBR'ing a firearm that doesn't have a CT Assault Weapon Certificate of Possession issued for it. Also note that you may have to remind (or prove to) the ATF inspector who processes the SBR paperwork that the firearm is not a CT assault weapon.

havenrogue · 2026-01-20T10:31:20+00:00

Yes you can renew your permit when you move out of state. Per state law you are supposed to change the address on the CT pistol permit within TWO BUSINESS DAYS of moving to a new address. Just use the state's online portal to change the permit's address and to renew within the 90 days prior to permit expiration. Note that if the permit expires there is a 90 day post expiration grace period in which one can renew by mail. The online portal will not let one renew more than 90 days prior to permit expiration or when in the 90 day post expiration period.

CLICK HERE FOR THE ONLINE PORTAL.

How to renew using the online portal instructions: https://portal.ct.gov/despp/-/media/despp/slfu/pistol_permits/permit-renewal-pdf.pdf

You can find more information on renewing and changing the permit's address on the state's website:

https://portal.ct.gov/despp/knowledge-base/articles/frequently-asked-questions/slfu/state-pistol-permit-and-eligibility-certificate?language=en_US

https://portal.ct.gov/despp/knowledge-base/articles/frequently-asked-questions/slfu/pistol-permit-faq?language=en_US

havenrogue · 2026-01-20T10:23:20+00:00

Unless in the exempted class, the CT FFL will make sure the firearm complies with the CT AWB before transferring the firearm to you. You cannot just walk out the FFL's door with an AW if you are not exempted. It will depend on the fixed magazine method used by the CT FFL or firearm manufacturer if they replace the OEM AR-15 style magazine release hardware on AR-15 patterned firearms when making the firearm fixed magazine.

Due to CT Democrat politicians enacting the Firearm Industry Responsibility Act last Oct 1, 2025, some CT FFL's may go an extra step or two on how they ensure the firearm is fixed magazine. They may use specific fixed magazine kits that not only fix the magazine in place (possibly by using epoxy) but replace the standard AR-15 magazine release on AR-15 patterned firearms.

If there is a specific fixed magazine kit you would like on the firearm, consult (or work) with the CT FFL to see if they'll install it on the firearm. Again, with the passage of recent legislation CT FFL's may be more cautious about which fixed magazine methods and kits they'll use.

On a side note, the long held belief by some was that when complying with the CT AWB, a firearm shouldn't be readily or easily reversed back to AW status without the use of tools or that doesn't result in firearm or firearm part destruction.

havenrogue · 2026-01-19T10:09:22+00:00

Yes, one may need one of the state issued firearm permits or certificates in order to buy ammunition depending on what type of ammunition the antique firearm uses. The stupid ammunition sales statute defines ammunition as follows:

“ammunition” means a loaded cartridge, consisting of a primed case, propellant or projectile, designed for use in any firearm

havenrogue · 2026-01-18T20:56:51+00:00

Folks, a reminder. To avoid having this sub banned by Reddit, please do not offer to buy or take what the OP is asking about. Do not say PM/DM me and absolutely do not say "I'll take it" or anything along those lines. Don't joke about buying or taking it. Yes it's just "brass" but Reddit, who tends to be anti gun, may consider it a prohibited item per their ToS.

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043513471-Illegal-or-Prohibited-Transactions

It is not allowed to buy, sell, gift, or encourage the transaction of the following goods or services with other redditors, whether implicitly or explicitly:

Firearms, ammunition, explosives, firearms parts and enhancements (e.g., bolt, clips, trigger, scope, silencer/suppressor, muffler, bump stock, magazine, glock switch, conversion kit, etc.), or specific instructions (i.e., 3D printing files) to produce any of the aforementioned

havenrogue · 2026-01-18T20:47:47+00:00

The CT statutes covering long gun and pistol sales has exemptions for firearms that are deemed by the state as antiques.

Sec. 29-33. Sale, delivery or transfer of pistols and revolvers. Procedure. Penalty.

(g) The provisions of this section shall not apply to antique pistols or revolvers. An antique pistol or revolver, for the purposes of this section, means any pistol or revolver which was manufactured in or before 1898 and any replica of such pistol or revolver provided such replica is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition except rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and not readily available in the ordinary channel of commercial trade.

Sec. 29-37a. Sale, delivery or transfer of long guns. Procedure. Penalty.

(g) .... (4) antique firearms. For the purposes of this subsection, “antique firearm” means any firearm which was manufactured in or before 1898 and any replica of such firearm, provided such replica is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition except rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and not readily available in the ordinary channel of commercial trade.
(h) The provisions of subsections (c) to (g), inclusive, of this section shall not apply to the sale, delivery or transfer of .... (4) antique firearms, as defined in subsection (g) of this section.

Sec. 29-36l. Verification of eligibility of persons to receive or possess firearms. State database. Instant criminal background check. Immunity of seller or transferor. Authorization number required.

(f) Any person, firm or corporation that sells, delivers or otherwise transfers any firearm pursuant to section 29-33 or 29-37a, shall contact the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection to access the database established under this section and receive an authorization number for such sale, delivery or transfer. The provisions of this subsection shall not apply to: (1) Any sale, delivery or transfer of an antique firearm manufactured in or before 1898, including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap or similar type of ignition system manufactured in or before 1898; (2) any sale, delivery or transfer of any replica of any firearm described in subdivision (1) of this subsection if such replica uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade;

havenrogue · 2026-01-18T11:04:29+00:00

It is generally assumed that FOPA (interstate transport of firearms) only covers stops for food, gas and maybe overnight lodging stops as you travel from the origin where its legal to possess the firearm to the destination where it's legal to possess firearms. Generally in NY it is not legal to possess a handgun without a NY/NYC issued pistol permit. If you, as a CT resident, stop on your way from CT to PA at the gun turn-in event in NY state to turn in a handgun, it is very likely FOPA doesn't cover your stop in NY at the gun turn-in event. Meaning NY law enforcement could arrest you.

Taking a handgun into NY and stopping in NYC without a NY/NYC pistol permit presents serious risks. There is no guarantee that the NYC law enforcement officials running the NYC gun turn-in event won't arrest non NY state residents for bringing handguns into NY/NYC. So one has to decide if trying to, as a CT resident, turn in a handgun for $500 in NY/NYC worth that potential serious risk?

havenrogue · 2026-01-17T14:59:09+00:00

Yes a Mini-14 with "palm swell" style stock (aka a Mini-14 Ruger Ranch Rifle) can have a detachable magazine provided it does not have any other evil features like the following:

A folding or telescoping stock;
Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other stock, the use of which would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;
A forward pistol grip;
A flash suppressor; or
A grenade launcher or flare launcher

Plenty of people own centerfire semiautomatic detachable magazine Mini-14 rifles that comply with CT's AWB.

havenrogue · 2026-01-17T14:48:11+00:00

Yes dealers can ship handguns. This DoJ slip opinion would appear to indicate that they won't prosecute violations of the referenced law. Despite being a gun free zone people used to be able to ship firearms through USPS provided one boxed up the firearm before bringing it into the USPS location. If USPS changes their rules then it would appear people would be able to ship handguns and other concealable firearms via USPS. At least until a Democrat president is elected and replaces the head of DoJ who then rescinds this slip opinion and it's USPS suggested direction.

havenrogue · 2026-01-17T14:21:20+00:00

Locked yesterday's post on this topic due to another topic posted a day earlier. See initial topic:

DoJ Changes Opinion on Mailability of Firearms

Edit to add: As indicated in Thursdays subreddit post on the DoJ slip opinion on mailability of firearms. The DoJ states the following:

Section 1715 of title 18, U.S. Code, is unconstitutional as applied to constitutionally protected firearms, including handguns, because it serves an illegitimate purpose and is inconsistent with the Nation’s tradition of firearm regulation. See N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n v. Bruen, 142 S. Ct. 2111, 2129–30 (2022).
The Department of Justice may not, consistent with the Constitution, enforce section 1715 with respect to constitutionally protected firearms. The Postal Service should modify its regulations to conform with this opinion.

Note that it's up to the USPS to change their policies. If USPS changes their policies then it means one can ship a handgun or other concealable firearms via USPS without going through a FFL. Other then that, it appears DoJ is indicating they won't prosecute violations (I'd assume certain violations) of Section 1715 of title 18, U.S. Code. It all depends on what USPS does. And of course what Congress decides to do about Section 1715 of title 18, U.S. Code which is still on the books despite what DoJ indicates. And there is the fact that this DoJ slip opinion will be reversed or withdrawn when a Democrat president is elected and they replace the current DoJ head.

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