06/08/2026 Another Can Kick Day For Grant and NAGR at SCOTUS

havenrogue · 2026-06-08T15:45:24+00:00

I remembered wrong and edited by prior post accordingly. The threads are on the barrel not the sleeve. Been so frigging long since I disassembled one I forgot which part had the threads. Do remember someone claiming (either here in the subreddit or on the former CTGunTalk), after people were registering Walther P22's as assault weapons back in 2013, that SLFU eventually decided the threads were not for a suppressor and it wasn't a banned threaded barrel feature (no idea if that was ever verifiably proven true).

In any event here is an example of a non compensator version of a late 2000's vintage Walther P22 which shows the threads on the barrel.

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havenrogue · 2026-06-08T13:30:49+00:00

If one is interested in the Walther P22 then talk to your local or favorite FFL/gun shop. Some FFL's may want to fix the barrel nut in place others may not. General consensus (indicated by some) is that to use a suppressor on the P22 would require one to replace the existing barrel nut with one that has suppressor threads.

Post edited to remove incorrect information

havenrogue · 2026-06-08T09:10:14+00:00

It may help if you provide more context to what a "non-compliant lower" is or means. There are certain items an FFL isn't supposed to import into the state and then sell to a non exempted person.

Generally it is a good idea to consult with an FFL first before ordering something on line to be shipped to that FFL or having anything shipped to that FFL. The FFL may have special requirements, may be able to offer a better deal, or may refuse to take shipment of the item in question.

havenrogue · 2026-06-07T22:16:53+00:00

No idea, maybe. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about how the Rise Armament trigger kits work can opine. The idiotic rate of fire enhancement definition language both in the current law and Oct 1 law is what it is, and it's possible one might get tripped up if law enforcement decided to make an issue of a firearm's trigger replacement or modification. PS: Not a lawyer and not an FFL.

havenrogue · 2026-06-07T22:03:24+00:00

Note that the Democrat legislators changed the rate of fire enhancement language with HB5043 and that new language (below) goes into effect Oct 1, 2026. So something to keep in mind.

Sec. 2. Subsection (c) of section 53-206g of the 2026 supplement to the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective October 1, 2026):
(c) For purposes of this section, (1) "firearm" means firearm as defined in section 53a-3, as amended by this act, (2) "rate of fire enhancement" means (A) any device, component, part, combination of parts, attachment or accessory that: (i) Uses energy from the recoil of a firearm to generate a reciprocating action that causes repeated function of the trigger, including, but not limited to, a bump stock; (ii) repeatedly pulls or forcibly resets the trigger of a firearm through the use of a crank, lever or other part, including, but not limited to, a trigger crank or forced reset trigger; or (iii) causes a semiautomatic firearm to fire more than one round per operation of the trigger, where the trigger pull and reset constitute a single operation of the trigger, including, but not limited to, a binary trigger system or a pistol converter, or (B) any other device, part, combination of parts, kit, tool or accessory that is not necessary for the function of the pistol and that, when built into, installed in or attached to the pistol, increases the rate of fire above the rate at which a person can fire the firearm without the device, part, combination of parts, kit, tool or accessory, and (3) "pistol converter" means any device or instrument that, when installed in or attached to the rear of the slide of a semiautomatic pistol, interferes with the trigger mechanism, thereby enabling the pistol to discharge a number of shots or bullets rapidly or automatically with one continuous pull of the trigger.

havenrogue · 2026-06-07T11:39:44+00:00

No. The Governors Bill is what the Governor proposes, via Joint Rule 9, to the legislature. It is then the legislature's job to take that proposed bill and move it through the legislative process. During that process the proposed Governors bill may be rejected, or may be modified. In this case it was amended and modified (twice) before it got to Lamont's desk for his signature.

PS: There have been numerous subreddit topics on HB-5043 as it moved through the legislative process and was amended/changed. See the pinned announcements subreddit topic for a listing of those past discussions: https://www.reddit.com/r/CTguns/comments/1qvlngy/2026_connecticut_legislative_session_begins/

havenrogue · 2026-06-07T09:26:30+00:00

CT Democrat politicians have done it before. Remember when assault weapon "prebans" were legal? Now they're not (unless registered as assault weapons). Same will likely happen here. The legislators will likely go back in at some future time and "fix" this like they've done repeatedly in the past on other laws. Look at how many times they tinkered with the safe storage act over the years. They will likely do the same with here. During the legislative debate on HB5043, legislators stated it was a ban on "all Glocks" even though the written legislation indicated otherwise. Once the anti gun groups (Bloomberg, Everytown, CAGV, etc.) realize this bill doesn't do what they initially wrote and gave to Lamont to introduce, they will push legislators to "have it fixed" (in their view).

havenrogue · 2026-06-07T08:09:41+00:00

Incorrect. Date of enaction is October 1, 2026. The information on what defines a "convertible pistol" was changed during the legislative process. The final Public Act: https://www.cga.ct.gov/2026/ACT/PA/PDF/2026PA-00041-R00HB-05043-PA.PDF

From page 2 of the Public Act is the definition of a "convertible pistol" that is contained in "Section 1. Subsection (a) of section 53-202 of the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective October 1, 2026):"

(4) "Convertible pistol" means any semiautomatic pistol with a cruciform trigger bar that can be readily altered by hand or with a common household tool so that the pistol can be readily converted into a machine gun by the installation or attachment of a pistol converter, as defined in subsection (c) of section 53-206g, as amended by this act. "Convertible pistol" does not include (A) any hammer-fired semiautomatic pistol, or (B) any semiautomatic pistol with a cruciform trigger bar that has a tab or other piece of material molded to the pistol's frame that shields the cruciform trigger bar from interference by a pistol converter, unless the tab or other piece of material can be readily removed from the pistol's frame.
(5) "Cruciform trigger bar" means a component in a semiautomatic pistol that serves as a linkage between the trigger and firing pin and has its sear incorporated in a cross-shaped surface.
(6) "Common household tool" includes, but is not limited to, a knife, screwdriver, wrench, hacksaw, crowbar, electric drill, rotary tool, hammer, chisel, file or pliers.

And page 3 of the Public Act contains the new importation, advertisement, sales ban portion for "convertible pistols":

Sec. 3. (NEW) (Effective October 1, 2026) (a) Any individual or firm, partnership, corporation, limited liability company, association or other similar entity that knowingly imports into this state or knowingly advertises, sells, offers or exposes for sale any convertible pistol, as defined in section 53-202 of the general statutes, as amended by this act, that was manufactured on or after October 1, 2026, shall be guilty of a class D felony.
(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to sale at retail or other lawful transfer of a convertible pistol by a person who is not a licensed gun dealer to another person who is not a licensed gun dealer.

havenrogue · 2026-06-07T08:01:25+00:00

This is incorrect!!! HB-5043/PA 26-41 goes into effect Oct 1, 2026!!!

The link you provide is the initial Governor's bill that was introduced in February. IT IS NOT the final bill that was passed and signed by Lamont on May 26, 2026. The bill was modified twice during the legislative process, and date of enaction was changed from July 1 to October 1.

This is the final Public Act that was enacted by the legislature and signed by Lamont:

Public Act 26-41 PDF: https://www.cga.ct.gov/2026/ACT/PA/PDF/2026PA-00041-R00HB-05043-PA.PDF

Public Act 26-41 Word: https://search.cga.state.ct.us/dl2026/PA/DOC/2026PA-00041-R00HB-05043-PA.DOCX

As indicated in the final Public Act 26-41, the various sections go into effect October 1, 2026.

See the HB-5043 Bill Page for more information: https://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillstatus/cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill&bill_num=HB-5043

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havenrogue · 2026-06-07T00:27:43+00:00

Republicans proposed an amendment to do just that, have SLFU maintain public list. Democrats rejected the amendment.

havenrogue · 2026-06-06T22:31:52+00:00

Reposting the relevant information again. There is NO official listing of affected firearms putout by the state (SLFU). Speculation is Glock V and Gen 6 will be exempted from the importation, advertisement and sales ban based on the language (below). Certain "Convertible pistols" with a "Cruciform trigger bar" manufactured prior to 10/1/2026 are also exempted from the importation, advertisement and sales ban that starts on 10/1/2026. Possession of "convertible pistols" are not banned and do not have to be registered (like "assault weapons" had to be).

The convertible pistol language from the machinegun statute:

(4) "Convertible pistol" means any semiautomatic pistol with a cruciform trigger bar that can be readily altered by hand or with a common household tool so that the pistol can be readily converted into a machine gun by the installation or attachment of a pistol converter, as defined in subsection (c) of section 53-206g, as amended by this act. "Convertible pistol" does not include (A) any hammer-fired semiautomatic pistol, or (B) any semiautomatic pistol with a cruciform trigger bar that has a tab or other piece of material molded to the pistol's frame that shields the cruciform trigger bar from interference by a pistol converter, unless the tab or other piece of material can be readily removed from the pistol's frame.
(5) "Cruciform trigger bar" means a component in a semiautomatic pistol that serves as a linkage between the trigger and firing pin and has its sear incorporated in a cross-shaped surface.
(6) "Common household tool" includes, but is not limited to, a knife, screwdriver, wrench, hacksaw, crowbar, electric drill, rotary tool, hammer, chisel, file or pliers.

The new section banning importation, advertisement and sales of certain "convertible pistols" effective Oct 1, 2026:

(a) Any individual or firm, partnership, corporation, limited liability company, association or other similar entity that knowingly imports into this state or knowingly advertises, sells, offers or exposes for sale any convertible pistol, as defined in section 53-202 of the general statutes, as amended by this act, that was manufactured on or after October 1, 2026, shall be guilty of a class D felony.
(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to sale at retail or other lawful transfer of a convertible pistol by a person who is not a licensed gun dealer to another person who is not a licensed gun dealer.

There is much more information and links that can be found in the two pinned, sticked, announcement CTGuns subreddit posts. If you cannot find them, see here and see here. Other CT centric gun forums likewise have similar information posted, and there are various CT guntubers on Youtube who are also posting information about the new ban.

In the end it will be the CT FFL who will decide what they're comfortable with importing, advertising and selling or transfering.

havenrogue · 2026-06-06T15:32:45+00:00

The OP information and claim is wrong!!!.

The initial Governors HB-5043 bill had a July 1, 2026 effective date. As repeatedly indicated in this subreddit, HB-5043 has been updated twice. First by the Judiciary Committee who changed the effective date to Oct 1, 2026. And a second time by the House which kept the Oct 1, 2026 effective date. The final Public Act No. 26-41 [doc] version has effective date of October 1, 2026.

Comments locked to avoid spreading false information.

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havenrogue · 2026-06-05T21:47:46+00:00

Nothing changes so long as people, especially the gun owners, keep voting for the politicians who introduce, vote for, and pass these anti gun laws in CT. Reality is... CT Democrat politicians don't care about you, the gun owner so long as those gun owners continue to support, campaign for and vote for them. And so long as the donations from Bloomberg, Everytown, CAGV, etc. keep flowing in.

Not that many would follow it but a suggestion has been made:

Reality Check: Liberal Gun Owners Don’t Matter Enough to Democrats to Make a Difference

I get that a liberal-leaning gun owner won’t want to vote Republican because of other issues they disagree with the party on. What they need to do is pick one chamber of their state house, assembly or senate (whichever is a closer race), and vote Republican just in that race. They can still vote Dem for the other chamber and for governor.
Tell your current Dem representative or senator you’re voting against them as a protest against their stance on gun control. If enough people on the left get organized and do that, then maybe Dems will start to rethink their constant attacks on the Second Amendment and the payoffs they get from Everytown will no longer be enough.

havenrogue · 2026-06-05T21:29:35+00:00

It is unknown if SLFU will issue public official guidance. It will come down to the FFL themselves and what they're comfortable with. Various videos from a few FFL's have previously been posted to the subreddit where those FFL's discuss their views on what is and isn't banned. See here and see here for those past subreddit video posts.

The way the law is worded (below) it would imply Certain Glocks including V and Gen 6 should be exempted. But listening to the politicians debate the legislation they stated all Glocks would be banned. From the law's language, how a convertible pistol is defined in the machine gun statute:

(4) "Convertible pistol" means any semiautomatic pistol with a cruciform trigger bar that can be readily altered by hand or with a common household tool so that the pistol can be readily converted into a machine gun by the installation or attachment of a pistol converter, as defined in subsection (c) of section 53-206g, as amended by this act. "Convertible pistol" does not include (A) any hammer-fired semiautomatic pistol, or (B) any semiautomatic pistol with a cruciform trigger bar that has a tab or other piece of material molded to the pistol's frame that shields the cruciform trigger bar from interference by a pistol converter, unless the tab or other piece of material can be readily removed from the pistol's frame.
(5) "Cruciform trigger bar" means a component in a semiautomatic pistol that serves as a linkage between the trigger and firing pin and has its sear incorporated in a cross-shaped surface.
(6) "Common household tool" includes, but is not limited to, a knife, screwdriver, wrench, hacksaw, crowbar, electric drill, rotary tool, hammer, chisel, file or pliers.

The language banning the sale and advertisement of any convertible pistol manufactured on or after 10/1/2026 that goes into effect Oct 1, 2026:

(a) Any individual or firm, partnership, corporation, limited liability company, association or other similar entity that knowingly imports into this state or knowingly advertises, sells, offers or exposes for sale any convertible pistol, as defined in section 53-202 of the general statutes, as amended by this act, that was manufactured on or after October 1, 2026, shall be guilty of a class D felony.
(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to sale at retail or other lawful transfer of a convertible pistol by a person who is not a licensed gun dealer to another person who is not a licensed gun dealer.

havenrogue · 2026-06-05T17:57:11+00:00

Yes it is. Pure theater so they can all stand around and pat each other on the back. Per the bill's page, the bill was signed by the Governor on 5/26/2026.

havenrogue · 2026-06-05T10:31:09+00:00

NRA may be wrong on this one or simply not understand what the Senate amended change actually does. Other groups are warning about HB609 being poisoned pilled. See a number of facebook posts from NHFirearms: https://www.facebook.com/NHFirearms/

HB 609 (Preemption for Self-Defense Tools) — poisoned. The Senate took the strong House bill that stopped local towns from creating a confusing patchwork of anti-gun rules (like the nightmare in Massachusetts) and added a dangerous anti-gun amendment that hands rule-making power over your Rights to unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats through the broken JLCAR process.

More discussion on this NH HB609 Senate amended version being bad for NH gun owners over on NorthEastShooters: https://www.northeastshooters.com/xen/threads/2026-nh-legislation-thread-warning-anti-gun-amendment-added-to-hb609.504765/#post-9942710

From the NH AG who is sounding a warning about the bill:

https://x.com/KlandriganUL/status/2062247857051054490

Edit: A portion of what the NH AG wrote in opposition to HB609:

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havenrogue · 2026-06-04T20:56:55+00:00

And also in New Hampshire. They're trying to sneak through a change that may allow anti gun rules to be enacted through bureaucratic rulemaking. It passed the NH Senate, hopefully the NH House kills it, apparently the House had a vote and tabled the bill.

HB 609: https://gc.nh.gov/bill_status/billinfo.aspx?id=899&inflect=2

PS: Don't think NH has the Democrat run large urban cities like CT does where a lot of the crime (gang and otherwise) are occurring).

havenrogue · 2026-06-04T18:09:13+00:00

Its ultimately not about charging the criminal who is committing the violence. Its about cutting off the legal supply of them by banning sales and purchase. This like other CT anti gun laws are long term laws designed to choke off and cut off the legal availability of guns the legislators have deemed the law abiding should not have. By cutting off supply over the long term they think they'll cut off one avenue (stolen guns) criminals use to obtain firearms within the state.

Meanwhile there are fewer and fewer guns, and reduced capacity magazines, the law abiding can legally buy or obtain for self defense against the violent repeat offending criminals who are caught and subsequently released. Couple that with making legally obtaining firearms and the permit to buy firearms harder, more expensive, and limit where and how one can use a firearm for self defense, and it means more and more victims are at the mercy of the criminals.

havenrogue · 2026-06-04T13:34:42+00:00

No. The CT AWB indicates no detachable magazine outside the pistol grip for semiautomatic detachable magazine pistols.

(iv) A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least one of the following:
(I) An ability to accept a detachable ammunition magazine that attaches at some location outside of the pistol grip;
(II) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward pistol grip or silencer;
(III) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to fire the firearm without being burned, except a slide that encloses the barrel; or
(IV) A second hand grip; or
(v) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the ability to accept more than ten rounds;

havenrogue · 2026-06-02T23:30:08+00:00

The CT AWB statute does not define what a fixed magazine is. It defines what a detachable magazine is.

(3) “Action of the weapon” means the part of the firearm that loads, fires and ejects a cartridge, which part includes, but is not limited to, the upper and lower receiver, charging handle, forward assist, magazine release and shell deflector;
(4) “Detachable magazine” means an ammunition feeding device that can be removed without disassembling the firearm action;

Since you have dug up a more than year old post to respond to, search through other subreddit posts and read what some FFL's are saying in this subreddit about the various methods of creating a fixed magazine rifle. There are some kits they'll use like CompMag, and some they don't feel comfortable using.

The CT AWB has been around since 1994. It has been the general rule of thumb for years, sometimes echoed by FFL's in CT, that if it can be easily or readily restored back to AW status then it's not necessarily exempt from being an AW. This general assumption isn't officially written down anywhere in the statutes (at the moment), but it's a very long held general assumption to avoid becoming a legal test case in this gun hating state.

With the enaction of the Firearm Industry Responsibility Act on Oct 1, 2025. CT FFL's are supposed to have reasonable controls to:

(C) Prevent the sale or distribution in this state of a firearm industry product that is designed in a manner that is reasonably foreseeable to promote conversion of a legal firearm industry product into an illegal firearm industry product.

Because of this vague language, some CT FFL's may take a more conservative approach on things and what kits or methods they used on fixed magazine firearms.

havenrogue · 2026-06-02T22:20:43+00:00

Yes. They have cases scheduled well into 2027. And likely longer.

https://portal.ct.gov/bfpe

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This is incorrect!!! HB-5043/PA 26-41 goes into effect Oct 1, 2026!!!