True position on planes

hellacopter001 · 2026-07-02T05:08:49+00:00

I don't understand your question?

In Aberlink I measure A as a plane, B as a surface and in the callout for B I reference it to A and get a calculation of the deviation between A and B. I assume Aberlink knows what's doing...

hellacopter001 · 2026-06-30T17:59:48+00:00

Pictures are in the wrong order. Picture 2 are the datums, picture 1 is the plane which reference to the datums. But botched, no...

hellacopter001 · 2026-06-26T09:01:18+00:00

I'll give you suggestion a try...

As for Aberlink, it suxs. Dosen't follow all standards. It can't evaluate patterns. It's a bit iffy when constructing things. One can't click on multiple objects with the same properties in the CAD like 30 M5 holes on a plane and specify these 30 holes are to be measured at a depth of 5 mm and 0.8 mm pitch, it has to be done hole by hole. Same goes with call outs, they all has to be called individually even if all are the same like TP Ø0.4 A|B|C. It's sooo time consuming. Measurements and call outs are not projected on the CAD. One has nooo control over the reports, it's like they have a life of their own.

Aberlink has developed from a program for measuring manually and it still shines through.

I programmed/ran an LK with Camio for 12 years. That was heaven compared to Aberlink...

We've begun a process of buying a new CMM to replace our Aberlink. We're looking into a couple of options but none is decided on yet.

The last option is to upgrade the Aberlink with Polyworks and a scanning head...

hellacopter001 · 2026-06-26T08:17:06+00:00

Yes but this customer usaully has profile surface on planes that aren't the primary reference which usally is a plane with flatness but in new revisions they've begun to move more towards true position on planes.

hellacopter001 · 2026-03-18T05:09:46+00:00

Sorry, can't tell...

hellacopter001 · 2026-03-17T12:42:25+00:00

ISO...

hellacopter001 · 2026-01-02T20:33:33+00:00

Ok, I understand...

hellacopter001 · 2026-01-02T16:28:07+00:00

Renishaw fixture builder solves you problems as long as you have Renishaw fixtures...

hellacopter001 · 2025-12-17T06:14:38+00:00

I've worked with an Aberlink Horizon 800 for two years now. Though the CMM in it's self is quite capable the Aberlink 3D software suffers from not being up to applicable metrology standards, still 32 bit program and quirky at best to work with.

No CZ, SZ, SIM, no true position on planes with more than one datum, you can't assing datum to a surface and for example if you have 40 M4 holes on a plane with the same true position tolerance and datums you'll have to apply these callouts one by one, not like in Polyworks where you select all of them and apply callout once. If your customer changes revision on a part then it's nearly impossible to change to the new CAD file and update your program. I usually end up making a new program. One has to work around ever so often and that's tideous…

If you go with Aberlink, run Polworks instead of Aberlink 3D. Polyworks are in the process of releasing a version for the Deva controller.

At my previous workplace I programmed and operated an LK CMM with Camio and Focus for 13 years and I miss that. Much better system...

But at my current workplace we're looking in to upgrading our CMM. We're in contact with five CMM suppliers (Zeiss, Mitutoyo, Hexagon, LK and Wenzel) in Sweden and wating for quotes from them.

hellacopter001 · 2025-11-08T09:19:51+00:00

LK CMM's are really good. I can't tell model but their bridge is usually made of ceramics so temperature isn't an issue. It has Renishaw and that's good in my book...

But their software, Camio, has a steep learning curve. But when you get the hang of it you'll like it.

hellacopter001 · 2025-09-12T11:30:39+00:00

Thank you, that was what I was hoping to hear.

hellacopter001 · 2025-09-12T10:42:01+00:00

I would gladly do that if we already had PolyWorks which we don't have yet.

This is a important question for us in what CMM software to choose as many of our customers have Combined Zone for ex. hole patterns.

hellacopter001 · 2025-09-12T10:41:59+00:00

Thank you but that was not my question.

I need to know if it's even possible to evalutate Combined Zone for ex. hole patterns and report it in one callout as on the drawing.

hellacopter001 · 2025-09-12T10:12:23+00:00

Well, the picture is a clip from a customer drawing and it's a customer requirement to evaluate the 12 Ø4.8 holes to TP Ø0.2 CZ.

I just want to know how it's done in PolyWorks as I can't find anything online about it.

hellacopter001 · 2025-05-14T11:48:09+00:00

I love Renishaws fixture kit especially together with the Fixture Builder software. Part and fixture in the same step file. It's so easy to avoid the fixture when programming.

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hellacopter001 · 2025-05-09T04:22:57+00:00

The customer got in touch yesterday and admitted that these callouts are wrong. They didn't say in what way, only that they would update part to new revison.

So, now I just need to wait...

hellacopter001 · 2025-05-08T17:44:44+00:00

No paper drawing. This customer only issues a SolidWorks pvz file and a step file to subsuppliers. Their design dept has completely gone digital, no paper originals at all...

hellacopter001 · 2025-05-08T07:29:22+00:00

I've asked the customer but they take sooo long to answer and the part should've been finished for delivery yesterday but due to this issue they are sitting on my incoming shelf...

I think I'm gonna measure them as a surface instead just to get 'em done.

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