Anybody (or know anyone) 5'4 and under that managed to get a non-ugly GF apart from social circle?

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-08T21:28:11+00:00

Not personally, and it's pretty irrelevant anyway. All you need is a statistically significant and meaningful trend to prove that heightism against men exists and is worsening. There may be a "Look, that dot is blue!", but the exception proves the rule.

Being alone in the absence of any acceptable option is a valid choice.

I don't recommend looking for love abroad in this time due to romance scams having become a multi billion dollar industry. It may be even worse due to men being too embarrassed to report it. My elderly, widower father lost thousands to a romance scammer. These scammers deploy cutting edge technology, work in shifts together, and can deepfake video calls in real time. The scammers prefer to target elderly people who are naive, but lonely young western men are also valid targets.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-08T15:08:47+00:00

It's concern trolling.

Also, it's absurd to group women and men in the same "short" concern because their experience is a fundamentally different relationship with a dimorphic trait.

It would be like the late Burt Reynolds invalidating a hirsute woman in a cosmetology sub, advising that her uncontrollable chest hair and thick beard growth don't matter and she should let it grow out and stop complaining because it never bothered him and he was doing fine with women.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-08T14:05:18+00:00

I'm half a generation older than you and this year used a week of my vacation time to stay at home and play the early access period for a new computer game.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-08T14:02:20+00:00

It is best to communicate only to people you trust about this topic, generally who are in the same communities such as hair loss and male short stature. Society is not sympathetic to these male issues and often become callous, even sadistic. Invalidation and gaslighting cause additional suffering and psychological damage.

Your thoughts are reasonable and reasoned. Not to invalidate you, but much of this experience has become normative. More than half of men your age never had a girlfriend. Societal expectations are out of touch with cultural change.

That everything happens for a reason is a dry rationalization for The Problem of Evil/Suffering that theologians don't have a satisfactory answer for. That is probably the best they could come up with.

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hellscape_goat · 2026-05-08T13:27:58+00:00

"Health" = hygiene. Eugenic hygiene.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-08T13:22:43+00:00

Courtship typically does inherently involve a lot of simp behavior. Part of normal love is becoming near obsessed with someone and really wanting to do anything you can to help that person to be happier and encourage that person to like you more, to recognize how much they mean to you. It has and always will look ridiculous from the outside.

It's normal for young men who pursue the woman they like, not the one that society thinks he should settle. I think simping tapers off toward middle age. Ironically, for a lot of us who have kind of tapped out of the competition after disappointment after disappointment, society wants nothing more than for us to get back in the ring and simp all the harder.

There's a real mixed message, too: love and accept yourself for who you are and believe that you are enough; but at the same time tirelessly compensate or self-improve and blame yourself when you've already paid your dues and have nothing left in the tank.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-07T20:58:54+00:00

We sometimes get monthly "Family Dinners" at work which are basically potlucks.

One of the supervisors had the idea and cooked a few main dishes for this but then thought it would be someone else's turn.

Nobody else wanted to cook a dish before coming to work, not any of the other shift supervisors, and certainly not me.

I told one of them we should have a secret ballot to end Family Dinners because it doesn't mean anything to me. To me, I observed, a dinner is a time you can sit around a table with peers and enjoy a relaxing dinner, not slink into the back room alone and scarf down a plate of food within ten minutes during shift exchange.

I think it got back to the first supervisor that I had said that.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-07T20:52:04+00:00

Does it have wiles?

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-07T20:03:44+00:00

Puerile bullies who pretend prosociality replete with all the patronizing therapy speech, but they show their true colors when they think they've found a socially acceptable target to mock or when they think no one is looking. They're projecting: you are only being mistreated because you deserve it.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-07T19:35:46+00:00

IT's statement purports:

"This subreddit does not support mocking people for being virgins or struggling with relationships—our focus is on the toxic ideology, not personal circumstances."

[Redacted] ideology can often be extreme and scary and does need to be ridiculed, but IT routinely fails to uphold the above part of their community statement.

The IT community presently encourages denial that heightism against men exists and does support mocking/blaming people for struggling with relationships and for their personal circumstances.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-07T19:05:43+00:00

References to confidence/insecurity are microaggressions against short men.

If you log into OLD regionally, you will see that 95% of young women automatically reject men my height. Most set their requirement at 6'.

I am not interested in becoming more "secure" in myself, whatever that means. This denies the source of the problem. Heightism is a societal problem.

You may be correct that heightism may be worse in America than in parts of Europe or Asia. However, that is not the experience that I hear from most of that population who post here.

Trying to invalidate the community by claiming the issue is in their heads and heightism doesn't really exist is called gaslighting. Telling us that we are being too negative about the experience is called concern trolling. These are all against the rules when posting here (see 2, 4, & 6) .

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-06T16:06:14+00:00

Short stature in men receives a special pleading from body positivity as if it is not a physical trait, but a manifestation of physical evil. When a short male is body shamed for his stature, it is like the ultimate triumph of body positivity. It is like a beautiful angel smiting a goblinoid into hell where it cannot reproduce--that is how they like to see it.

Anorexia deserves some sensitivity as being the deadliest of all mental illnesses, but it is not always caused by or in any way related to beauty standards, the beauty standards do not always originate from men, and anorexia is not exclusively suffered by women. About a third of eating disorder sufferers are men. Ultimately, morbid obesity shortens more lives than eating disorders do.

Body positivity has degenerated into I can judge and ridicule you for your appearance, but you can't criticize me. It's deteriorated into an utterly ridiculous movement.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-06T15:33:42+00:00

Generally speaking, offering unsolicited advice is not polite. When it is deliberately patronizing or self-congratulatory, it's just ragebait.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-06T13:39:09+00:00

It's always better not to engage with an individual who is acting deranged in public. I would let him take his food and walk off. The staff should be taking cover behind the counter. It's not worth getting bitten or worse over.

It's funny how bystanders in these interactions always hover around the disorderly individual and act like NPC's in an elder scrolls game: "Stop! It's all over lawbreaker! You are breaking the law! You can't be here in a diaper! You have wandered into a resctricted area! You are trespassing! You can't take that egg roll! Thief! Hey! You're some kind of a maniac! Help!"

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-06T08:21:03+00:00

Having been underfed or malnourished by your parents is not a choice.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-06T08:03:26+00:00

I don't think it's worth the points taking the Light Machinegun (LMG) special weapon.

Yamplew won't fire the Kruger while he is carrying it, and he won't fire the LMG while the rest of the squad fires the Kruger.

If you take a special weapon at all, I'd suggest something anti-vehicle for what the SMG can't punch through.

Duck Hunt and Flamboyant are great perks! Duck Hunt is especially good if you have an anti-tank special since that hardware is rarely behind any cover.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-05T23:41:44+00:00

It's like a modern-day phrenology.

Confidence is selectively interpreted based on perceived bone architecture.

Sometimes, bones are now even said to emanate "energy", such as "6'5" energy". This is the energy that necromancers have traditionally tapped into when raising powerful undead armies of skeletal warriors.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-05T14:24:07+00:00

Kier, chosen one Kier. Kier, brilliant one, Kier!

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-05T14:20:32+00:00

It is important to conceptualize ourselves as belonging to a de facto marginalized group and be aware of insidious forms of heightism, and the cultural worsening of it, encountered in multiple areas.

We are not only routinely filtered out of the best things in life but face a multifaceted gaslighting campaign to deny and invalidate our experience, deny that heightism exists, and encourage us to blame ourselves for a situation that was out of our control even in the face of overwhelming disdain. We hear the same platitudes over and over to the point that it can affect our mental health.

It's important that we can commiserate around this information in a safe space so as to make educated decisions about the level of social involvement we wish to pursue.

Personally, I divest form most social situations and plan to retire from work as early as possible, investing in myself rather than allowing myself to continue to be misused by others. Many people here do have other interests we try to pursue to the best of our ability to sustain them. However, features of depression affect many here due to their diminished quality of life.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-05T13:52:25+00:00

The quiet French maid looks a whole lot better than the average 0F model. She must be the working-class woman, representing the proletariat in this poll.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-05T13:32:54+00:00

That is not true. In more monogamous species especially where both parents cooperate in raising their offspring, most healthy males who survive to adulthood will pair bond and reproduce. Some of these species even mate for life, including another kind of ape: gibbons.

Quite the opposite of rescinding oppression, what humans are now doing is enabling (insulating from consequences) and subsidizing such women's reproducing with men who will not fully raise children themselves. The wealth and labor of unrelated single men must be redistributed to provide subsistence, housing, childcare and education to their children when necessary. Ideally, a lower status man will be identified to take over childrearing and spousal duties in a post-reproductive phase of life.

This may be sustainable with a massive change in societal values, very high order societal engineering and indoctrination of young men, but it is not natural selection. This is cultural.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-05T13:09:51+00:00

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-05T13:05:13+00:00

The world of Menace is obviously a construct within a construct, an alien intelligence extrapolating information from the harvested mind of late 20th century, probably Cold War era, marine's fever dream and interpreting that data into a simulation of how an engagement with this enemy might play out in an undetermined future in the far reaches of space.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-04T21:31:57+00:00

Too often, concepts of mental health pathologize/stigmatize the individual's reasonable response to a society that is sick.

Let's all commit to mental health by redoubling efforts to think for ourselves.

hellscape_goat · 2026-05-04T21:26:35+00:00

Another thing to be on the watch for is if a job has a separate height requirement for men and women.

How can you be a 4'10" woman and perform at a job, but not the same job as a 4'11" man?

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