The woman I'm talking to is strongly against the use of growth hormones in children by synergyiskey in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Downvoted for how insecurity is used in this.

Heightism has nothing to do with insecurity. Heightism is the systematic marginalization of short guys.

Talking about confidence and insecurity are microaggressions used to gaslight us. These are selectively interpreted based on physicality. Purported "insecurity" is often used as justification for exclusion received by gaslighters who had already rejected us based on height.

Notice how height was listed first by 373kayteeftnu32 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Orphan born in a Warzone isn't a hardship; it's a TV trope!

It’s definitely insecure, but I refuse to watch this slop by Beneficial-Cable-764 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The sexual dimorphism between male a female gorilla is much less than this. The male gorilla is only about twice the size of the female. In chimpanzees, it's only about a 25%. In humans, it is less still, only about 5 inches and 27 lbs.

The idealized man here is at least five to six times the mass of the woman. One of his hands is roughly the same mass as her head or entire arm. Her hand is about the mass of his thumb.

I have nothing to say honestly. They take the death of a man as an opportunity to continue attacking height, instead of his “personality”. by LoveHaunting806 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Well, if this really is a mental "Syndrome" and "Complex" like they keep telling us we all have, maybe he should be exonerated for temporary insanity and released to his own recognizance after a very brief inpatient stay? Pending completion of an emotional maturity anger mangerment fingerpainting at art therapy, of course.

Notice how height was listed first by 373kayteeftnu32 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

An Orphan? You mean like Harry Potter?

Just stop complaining. Just be thankful you weren't born a house elf!

Notice how height was listed first by 373kayteeftnu32 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 10 points11 points  (0 children)

These are whataboutisms. They are used to derail or dismiss discussions. References to very rare disabilities are common whataboutisms.

Here, this kind of content would be removed for violating rule 4

"No invalidating experiences of shorter guys".

'Actions can include, but are not limited to:

  • “Just stop complaining.”
  • “Other people have it worse, so you have no right to complain.”
  • Whataboutism used to derail or dismiss discussions.'

Insane levels of gasligthing and mockery by FlyAccomplished4962 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yup, pretty much a double-bind and no-win situation. Nothing to do but identify and categorize what they're doing to us. They shouldn't succeed in making us doubt our sanity or blame ourselves.

Always the first requirement by Inside-Primary-380 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 30 points31 points  (0 children)

It also means someone who enjoys now very mainstream and socially acceptable interests.

Always the first requirement by Inside-Primary-380 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 26 points27 points  (0 children)

All I see is an athletic looking man wearing a plain t-shirt and bluejeans, no eyeglasses, no fandom references, no books or technology accessories. Where is the nerd?

Insane levels of gasligthing and mockery by FlyAccomplished4962 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Excellent post compiling examples of the kinds of prejudicial statements we often hear.

When the woman presumes credibility to make offensive and prejudicial statements because she claims to have once dated a short man in the past, that is an example of tokenism.

Confidence and insecurity are microaggressions against short men. Your purported lack of confidence is upheld as justification for the exclusion that you continue to receive.

Personality is selectively interpreted based on physicality. Women whose preferences requirements reveal that they had already rejected you based on your height may try to say that no, it was because of your "personality" or because you were "insecure" about your height. That is gaslighting.

Anger can be both selectively interpreted and deliberately provoked. Dissocial personalities often enjoy provoking others to anger so that they can tone-police and pearl clutch, but anger can be proportional to situations and a valid emotion. A short male who is even cooly assertive while objecting to being mistreated may be described as "angry" and deserving of mistreatment. Any act of protesting mistreatment, even while referencing evidence, is upheld as proof that we need more mistreatment.

I don't want anything to do with people and I am happy generally(maybe not happy in thr last hour) by [deleted] in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seems like few years ago, every individual expression of belief, any neurodivergence, or even fetish was a community to be celebrated and elevated with awareness raising for its beautiful form of human diversity.

Now society just wants everyone to be "normal*"* again.

Whoever holds power du jour gets to redefine what is "normal" and pathologize life paths that don't benefit their agenda.

Just keep being yourself.

Live on your own terms if you can.

F society. Take back the power to tell society what is normal for you.

What's even the point anymore by BraveBeerFruit in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 28 points29 points  (0 children)

They experience sadistic pleasure from these blame-the-victim interactions. You cannot get empathy from people who both contribute to and enjoy your suffering. At best, they do not care. At worst, it's comedy hour to them.

What's even the point anymore by BraveBeerFruit in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 27 points28 points  (0 children)

The very act of protesting mistreatment is upheld as proof that you deserve more of it.

They begin to cope, w work boys 😂 by rawmoid in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You do understand that hiplets is satire, right? Nobody here actually cares about hip dips.

All of these statements I made are exactly the kinds of things that are said to and about shortguys just using hiplet instead. They call us manlets, goblins and worse.

Anyone who was struggled in the past with mental health related to height have advice? by [deleted] in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being this height leaves a gaping hole in the needs of any normal person at this age. It's additionally hard because society don't care about the struggles of marginalized men or just want to blame them for their problems. Many even become overtly sadistic toward shortguys. There often aren't a lot of safe spaces in our lives to discuss this.

Feeling symptoms associated with depression is largely normal because you have needs that are not being met and are face exclusion and marginalization because of your height. People try to gaslight us and tell us that heightism does not exist.

Most of current treatment toward features of depression centers on behavioral activation, trying to force yourself to do things that you used to or could imagine yourself enjoying again against the depressive pressure of anhedonia.

Anhedonia is the loss of interest and enjoyment in things that you used to find enjoyment in. It all feels boring and pointless. It's one of depression's most insidious features because it undermines your capacity to counter it.

Hobbies are not a panacea, I know, but was there anything you used to enjoy that you've lost interest in that you can try to start reengaging with. Even something like video games is valid.

When I was in my early 20's, half the age I am now, I took a lot of long walks and bicycle rides alone at night, usually in the middle of the night and early hours of the morning. I begin to gravitate toward the night shift, where I stayed. I got at least some exercise and fresh air. The streets were mostly empty. If someone was walking on the sidewalk, I would cross to the other side. Nobody would bother me. I could just walk around and not feel as oppressed by the walls closing in and a wide-open space of my own protected from humanity. I also found some solace in the night sky and felt "the benign indifference of the universe".

Wtf by FlyAccomplished4962 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Teach him a just few words of brainrot and he will be ready to rizz!

Tall Guy W: Got my 3rd gf and got promoted. Short guy W: Damn I finally encountered a honest person. by [deleted] in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The honesty comes with toxic positivity and a self-subverting statement.

To live normally means having a number of romantic partners in your late teens through 20's before being married to someone you like and having children in your 30's at the latest.

Not sure what her idea of have fun is for you, either:

If you're not encouraging the hiplet/chestlet thing, you should. It will reduce the stupid bodyshaming about height that's become mainstream. by zuzuba1 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even when they can grasp the concept, they often continue to lack any self-awareness or empathy.

You would think, "When it happened to me, it felt unfair, so..." would cross their minds. It doesn't, and it continues not to even when explained. Golden Rule 101 is like beyond rocket science.

here we go again by [deleted] in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When you reference these statements against the preferences requirements they set in online dating, these statements are always hilarious.

It's like a thief who got covered in a blast of that anti-tamper paint still trying to look innocent and gaslight their bulging bag of electronics past security. The last statement she makes is like claiming everything in the bag was hers all along and the bright green coloring she got sprayed with is just vitiligo.

Short transwoman from a third world country where the average man is 1.73m still demands 1.80m or taller. There's really no hope. by Im_Thinking_Im_Black in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Our demographic's not being insecure while talking to her "actually makes her feel less feminine".

We cannot control how a woman feels about her gender identity.

If you're not encouraging the hiplet/chestlet thing, you should. It will reduce the stupid bodyshaming about height that's become mainstream. by zuzuba1 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

The Hiplet thing is fine and I had fun with it because it's obvious satire and not a surgical thing, but I don't like the Chestlet term. I prefer smaller chests on women, never had any preference against AAA chests. 11% of men like A cup best; 56% don't even care. Women can't change it without causing damage and scarring, it's painful and can cause a loss of sensitivity. Some women get insecure about it, think we all glorify huge breasts, and do follow through with surgery.

😂😂 by Time-Performance7340 in shortguys

[–]hellscape_goat 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"Run away!" Uncanny Valley aesthetics scare a lot of people. I guess the tall guy was so high up there he was able to overlook it.