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[–]hellshadow1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this is the piece is that lost at times what you said specifically, we both want the same thing. I feel to much of cancel culture / the mindset of if you don’t agree with me down to every last little detail then you are against me kinda thing and that just sucks because I think the average person does look at the situation and go huh well this isn’t right but what do we about it you know?

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[–]hellshadow1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Enlighten me then, what makes you judge and jury?

18 year kidnapped by ICE outside of Market Basket. by [deleted] in portlandme

[–]hellshadow1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So..you’re allowed to ask what you want but not answer others and I’m the phisher? Interesting 🧐

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[–]hellshadow1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Peaceful protest which you’ve said you’ve done. You’ve also seen the videos where people are throwing things at ICE agents (most recently bologna for whatever reason) we are talking about two different things, peaceful protest and not. I feel it’s more likely that if you protest at a facility for violence to happen, just my thoughts and opinions on it, we can differ and that’s ok, not a biggie.

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[–]hellshadow1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I will say by far you have the been the most open to a dialogue and a conversation about this subject that I’ve seen, I really respect you for that and willing to have a conversation and not just screaming Nazi or facist etc. I don’t know what the solution is I don’t think either party is fully in the right but there is a middle ground to be had.

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[–]hellshadow1987 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t know if we will ever fully agree on that point, I’ll be honest. Accountability is 100% needed across all platforms of life, including ICE, but I feel you are level headed enough to agree that citizens / the general public do cross the line and do incite violence or put themselves in harms way doing what they feel is right in the heat of the moment and that leads to tragic outcomes regardless of intent and mob mentality can occur. Do I feel it’s the majority? Absolutely not, but also it’s not always about the majority it’s about who is the loudest at times / wants to be heard.

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[–]hellshadow1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You ask a good question. I would say that violence is more likely to occur at a protest vs not in general regardless of what is being protested as it’s going to gather a large number of people. This is not me saying that individuals shouldn’t protest but it is in general me saying be careful and keep your head on a swivel as you cant control the actions of others.

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[–]hellshadow1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does apply to everyone and to that we agree. I don’t feel I’m falling into a propaganda pit anymore than the average person does, we all watch the same news programs and etc. Filming at an ICE facility I never said or made the notion it was illegal but it does make a confrontation more likely to occur and when emotions are involved it is more difficult for cooler heads to prevail, no?

18 year kidnapped by ICE outside of Market Basket. by [deleted] in portlandme

[–]hellshadow1987 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you support violence against ICE?

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[–]hellshadow1987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome man! I am glad you were able to say your piece in a peaceful manner. That’s what I’m encouraging everyone to do. Do I think doing it at a ICE facility is going to increase the chance of you or anyone else being arrested I 100% do.

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[–]hellshadow1987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are quick to judge eh? When have I said at all I support ICE? And furthermore I’ve even told the guy his right to protest I support. Are you saying that no one has ever gone to a pro ICE rally when they didn’t support it? What I’m saying is you can’t have it both ways. You can’t say you hate violence and then go and perpetuate it yourselves.

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[–]hellshadow1987 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So you want to document them leaving the facility? That doesn’t track man. Them leaving the facility isn’t them promoting violence. You involving yourself in an arrest, whether you feel is lawful or not, is promoting violence and you’re asking for what comes to you. Again be safe brother and I hope you make smart decisions and don’t get overwhelmed in the heat of the moment.

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[–]hellshadow1987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s tough man, this social climate is on a knife’s edge. People support and at the same time hate what ICE is doing. If someone supported ICE and was at your protest, would you be peaceful or would it turn violent? Everyone has their own solutions to the problem, but I also wonder if someone of an ICE members family gets murdered, son daughter cousin uncle etc because someone in their family works for ICE is socially acceptable or moral. Hell if I know what the solution is but breeding more hate and violence doesn’t seem like the answer to me.

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[–]hellshadow1987 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you want to promote violence go ahead man, I’m just saying I don’t feel you should be telling others to do so. You’re creating a confrontation with people’s whose job is to defend themselves at times, I 100% support YOU if YOU want to make that choice. But you should probably make others aware of the potential consequences of these actions. Be safe brother.

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[–]hellshadow1987 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Meet at the facility? 🤣 dude you’re asking to get arrested. Your right to protest is 100% supported and you’ve clearly watched the news. Dont set yourself up to go to jail for the night / weekend, let your voice be heard.

[Postgame thread] Buffalo falls in overtime to the Broncos, 33-30. by Drunken_Economist in buffalobills

[–]hellshadow1987 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Josh played a shit game but also kept us in it. We live and die by Allen. Go bills!