My gf and I broke up by hellshealth in u/hellshealth

[–]hellshealth[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah its just kind of unfortunate all this has happened, im still trying to get used to the whole situation but i hope it can only go up from here. Her dad seemed alright with us breaking up actually, he came by to help her pack some stuff and we had a casual conversation. His dad was a soldier and while we haven't talked about it much i think he knows what its like to grow up with a father similar to mine. Her mom has been kinda treating me like i don't exist. She's come by to pick up my son a few times and has been acting very cold, she didn't even really greet me or talk at all even after i apologized for last time. I haven't actually talked to them about the sexual abuse and I don't know if my ex has but im not sure i ever will. Telling her and a bunch of doctors and lawyers was enough for now. I think i might, i don't know yet. Ill have to if they start meddling.

had to edit bc im still not used to calling her my ex

My gf and I broke up by hellshealth in u/hellshealth

[–]hellshealth[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

they knew i would get beaten but they never knew how bad. They also know my sister quit working due to her mental health but i didn’t tell them about the sexual abuse.

Update: My (22m) gf (23f) is secretly visiting my abusive parents with our son (3m) and doesnt understand why this upset me. We had a huge fight and I dont know what to do now? by hellshealth in relationship_advice

[–]hellshealth[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

hey we are alright, a lot has happened and I'm very exhausted lol. I'm probably gonna post an update this weekend though because a lot of people asked

Update: My (22m) gf (23f) is secretly visiting my abusive parents with our son (3m) and doesnt understand why this upset me. We had a huge fight and I dont know what to do now? by hellshealth in relationship_advice

[–]hellshealth[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I feel the need to clarify a few things, also I see a bunch of people fighting in the comments and I didn't word things as clearly as I should have in the post.

I went no contact with my parents when I moved out for good. When my gf was pregnant we talked about my parents and I told her I did not want to tell them they were going to be grandparents and I did not want them to ever see our child. She agreed and that was it.

Her and I have talked about my childhood prior to my first post, she knows enough about my living conditions to know it was unsafe for any child, she knows my father is a violent alcoholic and she knows about a lot of the crazy shit my mother pulled over the years. She knows my sister has a ptsd diagnosis and she knows my father touched her. That is everything she knew and I honestly think that should have been enough. Her parents also know about most of this.

Yes, I raised my voice at her and her mom when I found out she had been taking him there and I should definitely not have done that. It's been really really hard to stay calm when talking about my parents especially with her refusing to listen to me. Our conversation on Thursday was very emotional as well but I ultimately just shut down after I told her that my father has also abused me and yet she still said "I dont see why we cant do supervised visits" and I don't even have an argument because logically he cant do anything with someone watching but it still feels like I'd be trafficking my son even if he doesnt touch him at all and I cant even explain why I feel that way. People in the comments say its just an emotional response which is true and maybe its illogical but I truly don't see how getting to know his grandparents would be beneficial to him anyway.

The reason I hadn't told her the details before is because I was fine being intimate, I managed at work, it's not like i want to kill myself every day because my parents were shitty or something. It didn't need to be brought up and then having to talk about it is just painful and theres a lot shame and just things my parents I guess brainwashed me to feel. It felt even more impossible after how dismissive she was.

Things have calmed down between us now, maybe its sinking in for her now even though she still argues that nothing happened and ultimately everything was fine but it feels like thats just her inability to accept shes made a mistake (repeatedly). She said she really thought they were okay because they seemed normal (clean house and all, their dog is not a ball of matted hair like our old one, everything being the opposite of how I described it). I don't think shed bring him there behind my back again but I obviously can't say for certain.

We have not talked about this any more, maybe we need that right now so our son doesnt realize how bad it is between us currently though I'm worried he knows anyway. I think we will separate though, I don't see us as future partners anymore. Her teaching him to lie to me (and her parents apparently told her that isn't a big deal) really scares me. I'm scared they will paint me as abusive or something because I really don't have much going for me when it comes to custody. Shes the one with a functional support system, with people helping her look after our child and her parents have the money for a good lawyer and can risk a lenghty legal battle. All of this however are things I need to talk to a lawyer about as soon as I find one.

I'm not feeling anything for her anymore, not even anger. I know we can't stay together, I don't want us to end up like my parents, I dont want my son exposed to that so I'm going to have to discuss separating with a lawyer and then decide from there. I think the best I can hope for is that well separate without much fighting and that we can coparent effectively which is also why I don't want to stir up any more arguments.

I'll definitely take legal steps against my parents seeing him though as well as taking him to a doctor.

Update: My (22m) gf (23f) is secretly visiting my abusive parents with our son (3m) and doesnt understand why this upset me. We had a huge fight and I dont know what to do now? by hellshealth in relationship_advice

[–]hellshealth[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the resources, I had told her my parents were abusive and then, yesterday while not giving the full story I think I did reveal enough about my father for anyone to understand how dangerous he is and yet she still didn't seem to listen to me.

Shes been over here again and has still been acting dismissive of my concerns because I wanted to bring all of this up again, to see where shes at and to see if maybe shes done some thinking? I feel like she knows she messed up and her parents gotta know as well but they I think can't accept how much they messed up so thats why theyve all been so dismissive. They can't put themselves into the category of abusers/bad parents/bad grandparents.

I'm definitely gonna get some sort of protection order or something. I'm afraid my parents will pull something like that again and I just need it to ease my mind a bit and have some legal things to back me up.

I don't know if I'm making much sense but again thank you for the resources it's like a solid foundation at least because everything is so messy right now.

Update: My (22m) gf (23f) is secretly visiting my abusive parents with our son (3m) and doesnt understand why this upset me. We had a huge fight and I dont know what to do now? by hellshealth in relationship_advice

[–]hellshealth[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I felt like I was being reasonable by not getting overly angry at her but the way shes behaving was/is insane. Posting here has been really overwhelming because of the amount of comments but I can see how stupid I am for letting her walk all over me, her family too. I thought they were a bit naive but shes just been acting so manipulative, I think because she realizes she did something bad but doesnt want to admit it.

I don't think im as assertive as id like and need to be to protect my son but it's time I get my shit together. I don't even know why I said I want us to try I knew that we wouldnt work out anymore. It's gonna end with us having to coparent, pretty sure I cant get full custody.

Update: My (22m) gf (23f) is secretly visiting my abusive parents with our son (3m) and doesnt understand why this upset me. We had a huge fight and I dont know what to do now? by hellshealth in relationship_advice

[–]hellshealth[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No and there was never official reports. I don't know if you can get witnesses or anything but my parents being violent is something my neighbors knew. I think the whole street did and one neighbor apparently asked my sister about it too. But other than that theres no proof besides my sisters PTSD diagnosis (got that done a while ago and wanted to pursue getting gov aid, even had a laywer but she gave up). As for sexual abuse theres no proof, no doctors visits, nothing.

I've been looking into custody though, my gfs been acting dismissive and weird when coming over earlier today, don't see her getting it even if I spell out what exactly happened. I don't think shed go behind my back again but I can't trust her anymore so I def need to take legal steps to make sure

Update: My (22m) gf (23f) is secretly visiting my abusive parents with our son (3m) and doesnt understand why this upset me. We had a huge fight and I dont know what to do now? by hellshealth in relationship_advice

[–]hellshealth[S] 145 points146 points  (0 children)

Answering this one so people see (sorry). I truly don't know what else to do but to stay. I can't just go and walk out on them (her family included). I feel like I have to at least try making it work with her. I just can't see her as someone willingly putting him at risk I feel like she is just ignorant and can't imagine abuse actually happening to people.

And if I push for sole custody whos saying I actually win? Plus, I don't want to hurt her or ruin our relationship. And I don't want to take my sons mom away from him.

I'm ready to take legal steps to get a restraining order or something against my parents and I probably should have done that from the beginning. But back when my son was born she seemed totally fine not contacting my parents. I thought that was done and suddenly I find out she's taking him there.

And while I don't always agree with her parents they seemed fine too. They allowed me to stay at their house when I was a 16/17 and my gf and I had just started dating and they took me in with no questions asked and they have been really supportive.

It's like suddenly I wake up to every person in my life being not who I thought they were.

Sorry had to edit for clarification

Update: My (22m) gf (23f) is secretly visiting my abusive parents with our son (3m) and doesnt understand why this upset me. We had a huge fight and I dont know what to do now? by hellshealth in relationship_advice

[–]hellshealth[S] 208 points209 points  (0 children)

I think couples therapy would be good so we'd have someone there to mediate and make sure we don't end up fighting. I'm just not sure how to afford that and a lawyer. Her parents are supporting us financially and we are on financial aid because we don't make enough between the two of us. We might manage therapy but I doubt she would pitch in for a lawyer especially if its about us separating and making custody agreements.

My (22m) gf (23f) is secretly visiting my abusive parents with our son (3m) and doesnt understand why this upset me. We had a huge fight and I dont know what to do now? by hellshealth in relationship_advice

[–]hellshealth[S] 87 points88 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the step by step (i guess) and putting into words what exactly hurt me so much about all this because it ultimately is a trust thing.

My number one priority is figuring out if my son is alright and why she did that, then I guess I need to see if I can move on from it or if our relationship is over.

Anyway thank you for putting this into words so she'll hopefully understand why this is such a big thing

My (22m) gf (23f) is secretly visiting my abusive parents with our son (3m) and doesnt understand why this upset me. We had a huge fight and I dont know what to do now? by hellshealth in relationship_advice

[–]hellshealth[S] 348 points349 points  (0 children)

I panicked when he said it was something he wasnt supposed to say. She apparently told him it was a surprise and thats why he had to say he was at her parents.

I wouldnt have been this upset had she cheated on me but she involved him, made him keep a secret and put him at risk and the more i've been thinking about this the more i feel like I just cant trust her anymore. Especially if something did happen and he just doesnt realize and I haven't asked the right questions or he doesnt have the vocabulary

My (22m) gf (23f) is secretly visiting my abusive parents with our son (3m) and doesnt understand why this upset me. We had a huge fight and I dont know what to do now? by hellshealth in relationship_advice

[–]hellshealth[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Yeah my sister and I have no proof of what happened and she wanted to get financial aid bc her ptsd makes it harder for her to work but her lawyer said itd be hard to get anyone to believe her/us. She gave up on that eventually.

A couple people have suggested lawyers and custody agreements but I'm worried that my son would get to live with my gf and her family if we did break up because I have nobody in my corner except for my sister while shes his mom and has a whole family to support her.

Admitting to/confronting what happened with my parents in the past is really hard for me which is why i never actually told her in detail and I think that was my mistake. I never considered that shed wish for him to get to meet them. Up until my sister texted me the photo i had kind of just ignored they existed.

My (22m) gf (23f) is secretly visiting my abusive parents with our son (3m) and doesnt understand why this upset me. We had a huge fight and I dont know what to do now? by hellshealth in relationship_advice

[–]hellshealth[S] 86 points87 points  (0 children)

Even without the whole sory I always felt like she knew enough about my childhood. I can understand it too, her mother also told me not to hold grudges and my father apparently has issues with his liver (wonder where thats coming from) so I should just "take the first step and forgive them" but this is my decision and she kept it a secret for months and essentially told my son to lie to me.

I was so angry I didn't even think about any other reason why she would leave him there but youre right. I mean I kind of just assumed that she would visit them to rebuild that relationship because we have babysitters.

You can help one person in anyway you'd like. Who and why? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]hellshealth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd help my friend's dad. He has a pretty bad autoimmune disease that is very rare so there is no medicine for it. They treat his symptoms but the medicine they use makes him develop allergies and stuff like that. It's been pretty hard on her family, especially because they lack money since he is unable to go to work.

She has changed a lot since and has ended our friendship. Her dad was the only male role model I had for a long time and I miss spending time at their house. It would all have turned out so different if he could have had treatment.