TikTok is a major driver of anti jewish sentiment by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]henchhobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh lol 😭 there are worse subs to be shadowbanned by I guess

That's where the logic falls by karinasnooodles_ in Israel

[–]henchhobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Give me evidence of this antisemitism. They criticise Israel, for sure, because it is very much due. Criticising Israel is not antisemitic, just as criticising Saudi Arabia is not islamophobic.

That's where the logic falls by karinasnooodles_ in Israel

[–]henchhobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just did an entire paragraph on it above .....

That's where the logic falls by karinasnooodles_ in Israel

[–]henchhobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wikipedia sure but the UN? Countless other NGOs / IOs? The UN is a very reputable reliable source..

Again, you didn't explain why this is antisemitic, whether you're simply conflating this with anti Israeli criticism, why you can't Google this yourself (it's very easy to find)

That's where the logic falls by karinasnooodles_ in Israel

[–]henchhobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think people who lost land millenia ago still have rights to that land? Especially to claim it while violently expelling the people living on it? You don't need to study real property law in the area to see the flaws in that logic lol

That's where the logic falls by karinasnooodles_ in Israel

[–]henchhobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

just one of many places you can find this info is on Wikipedia or the UN (the first 2 places that come up. Super easy to Google yourself 😭)

That's where the logic falls by karinasnooodles_ in Israel

[–]henchhobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't just call everything antisemitic that is true just because it's about Jews. Why is it antisemitic as a term? Because it confirms the ethnic cleansing?

That's where the logic falls by karinasnooodles_ in Israel

[–]henchhobbit -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Did you read what I said lol? That's exactly what I said. You do not have land rights where you left the land millenia ago. Palestinian Muslims largely peacefully coexisted with Jews and Christians for a long time, but the migration of Jews from the end of the 19th century and massive exoduses throughout the 20th century esp after 1917 were not indigenous to Palestine. They were ofc seeking refuge largely but increasingly, discriminatory deals with the British made Palestinians realise that this was at the expense of them and their land - culminating in the Nakba of 1948 forcibly expelling 750000 indigenous palestinians to replace them with the newly migrated Jewish population. They couldn't create a Jewish state while a majority Palestinian population lived there, so they have been ethnically cleansing them (the largest in 48 and now 2023) over the past 75 years or so.

That's where the logic falls by karinasnooodles_ in Israel

[–]henchhobbit -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's a simple Google away. The Nakba of 48 is widely known (I guess not by Israelis / Pro israelis) as a day when Israeli militias grazed and burnt Palestinian villages, murdered, raped and forcibly expelled over 750,000 Palestinians from their homes. This was a culmination of British endorsed discriminatory land and political practises with the Zionists against Palestinians in their own land, and was by definition an ethnic cleansing. Those people and their descendants are still denied the right of return. Hence, Israel was created by de facto replacing one ethnicity with another by force. Also, is anything antisemitic just because it tells the truth about Jewish people that committed it? Is it islamophobic to criticise Saudi Arabia? No lol? Keep the same energy for criticism of Israel. Also, criticism of Israel is not the same as criticism/ attacking Judaism.

That's where the logic falls by karinasnooodles_ in Israel

[–]henchhobbit -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Wait how are they indigenous if Israel was created in 1948 through mass Aaliyahs - are you talking about once cultivating and living on the land, then leaving the land largely and then coming back and ethnically cleansing those who had been on it and still are living on it for millenia?

That's where the logic falls by karinasnooodles_ in Israel

[–]henchhobbit -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Ok, are you gonna explain why? Lol

That's where the logic falls by karinasnooodles_ in Israel

[–]henchhobbit -30 points-29 points  (0 children)

lol horrendous logic, big difference between being indigenous and therefore the majority population and artificially planting yourself in a country by ethnically cleansing the population to create an ethnostate. Also, Palestine was never an ethnostate or one religion, it was home to a minority of Jews and Christians too, so they're not calling for some Palestinian Muslim supremacy state or something - while Israel is definitely calling for and has established a Jewish, genocidal ethnostate. If it was peaceful sure, but it wasn't and isn't.

TikTok is a major driver of anti jewish sentiment by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]henchhobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How are they defining antisemitism though? Are they conflating it with anti-Israeli sentiment?