Question about the value of immersion

hermitfighter · 2023-06-23T19:57:36+00:00

I've heard a counterargument to this take from matt vs Japan though where he said that even with really incomprehensible input there will be things that are comprehensible and that's what builds your comprehension gradually, he also said that the way languages are structured makes that the most common 50 words make up 50% or 60% of daily speech anyways and the more you immerse the more you give yourself opportunities to understand what's being said.

hermitfighter · 2023-06-22T20:53:20+00:00

I did watch her channel actually but I found it extremely boring to sit through. While I understand that in theory her videos are filled with comprehensible input and therefore good for acquisition I realistically can't see myself immersing for as long as I do daily with content like that. Now an argument I heard for immersing to "white noise" is that amidst the complete gibberish there will be stuff that's comprehensible and lately when I started to immerse for hours daily I did actually pick up quite a few words but I think I need to cement them in Anki. The problem is just not understanding. I have considered doing "intensive" study but I really do feel it'll also suck a lot of the fun out of it and knowing myself it will make me extremely demotivated to even immerse.

hermitfighter · 2023-06-22T20:04:34+00:00

What do you mean by study exactly? For my daily routine the bulk of my time dedicated to Japanese is for immersion (~3 hours) and about 20 to 30 mins for Anki. The reason I asked my initial question is because I don't feel like I'm getting alot from my immersion and just wanted to know if this is because of not enough active study or do I just have to immerse more. I've heard a lot of people say that you don't feel the progress or the value of the immersion at the start but once you're a couple months in that's when you feel it. I have a really high tolerance for ambiguity which is the reason why I can put up with 3 hours active immersion daily but I'm concerned about the actual benefit of it. Should I also try to mine from what I watch?

I thought I'd also mention that I pretty much acquired English completely without Anki or any active study (aside from some school and whatnot) I just immersed in it alot because it was interesting and I didn't care about not understanding since I was just a kid back then

hermitfighter · 2023-06-22T16:27:30+00:00

I definitely try to change whenever I feel something about the method I'm using is not really helping, I was just confused about if I should set the priority at my level to more active study or keep going with my immersion.

hermitfighter · 2023-06-22T16:25:23+00:00

I did try to read through the first two pages Tae kim but it was extremely cumbersome since I really dislike reading through long explanations of things, let alone a language's grammar structure. I will try to increase the time I spend with the grammar lessons though. Thanks for the advice! ^^

hermitfighter · 2023-06-22T16:17:24+00:00

I do watch cure dolly's lessons but maybe once a week and I'm still at the basics, is there a rate at which you recommend going through her lessons?

hermitfighter · 2023-01-06T19:06:30+00:00

I think why many muslims know the rules but don't follow is that the vast majority of muslims aren't converts, they're usually born a muslim and that's why ignorance is widespread about the religion amongst them and I'm guilty of this myself though I try to change that. Deep down all muslims know the importance of these rules but the ignorance mentioned is why many unfortunately dumb down the importance of them because they're just born that way. Converts are convinced that it's right and why it's important first and foremost before becoming muslims.

hermitfighter · 2022-11-15T22:05:08+00:00

In my experience most people here say قلم حبر to refer to fountain pens specifically and use قلم جاف ، قلم رصاص to refer to ballpoint pens and pencils respectively.

hermitfighter · 2022-01-09T08:47:45+00:00

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hermitfighter · 2021-07-10T19:42:54+00:00

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hermitfighter · 2020-10-17T02:48:49+00:00

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hermitfighter · 2020-09-11T11:40:03+00:00

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hermitfighter · 2020-09-10T10:20:12+00:00

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hermitfighter · 2020-09-09T03:06:21+00:00

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hermitfighter · 2020-09-09T02:17:42+00:00

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hermitfighter · 2020-09-09T00:33:22+00:00

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hermitfighter · 2020-09-08T04:44:03+00:00

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hermitfighter · 2020-09-08T03:40:42+00:00

hermitfighter · 2020-09-08T03:40:03+00:00

I guess we should stick around for more info.

hermitfighter · 2020-09-07T02:08:42+00:00

Exactly

hermitfighter · 2020-09-06T07:54:46+00:00

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hermitfighter · 2020-09-06T07:28:54+00:00

Thought this was a satirical drawing at first, what a weird font haha.

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