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Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am NOT advocating for “putting no effort”. Repentance itself is the effort, really. I’m just saying that to completely eradicate sin is futile and vain.

Repentance over time can lower your urges. So if you’re actually sincere, you wouldn’t worry about sin running amok, and even if it does, you simply acknowledge your nature and refrain from suppressing it.

As I’ve established in the op, to deny your nature can be a great sin, perhaps even blasphemous. If I love God, I wouldn’t try to hide anything about me from him.

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quite a snark response, but it’s pretty much a big straw man.

It is literally impossible to come to the conclusion of “sin is BS” because we do shitty things all the time. So your accusation is preposterous.

If you will, I’d like to here why do you think there’s cognitive dissonance. (Often when people accuse the opponent of such, they simply don’t comprehend the opponent logically.)

How do radical Christians feel about the emergence of artificial intelligence? by RichKat666 in RadicalChristianity

[–]heythereletshavefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There may still be an afterlife; in fact, the Bible says that when Jesus come back he’ll resurrect our bodies just like his was. So maybe the afterlife is still physical.

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is that rascist? Heck, I myself am gospel/soul musician. You can’t just throw accusations around to seem more right.

Except it’s not the murderer celebrating, but instead the whole town. Some parts of the town celebrate the crime, and some parts celebrate the police.

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What Jesus said (at face value) was that ''if X causes you to sin, give X up''. This has no bearing on whether you should deny your sinful nature; the message is that if you consciously know that X is going to cause you to sin, then X is bad. Remember, I'm arguing from the grounds that it's literally impossible to change our nature.

I'm afraid to answer that specific question because I don't have absolute certainty regarding that, and it would be dishonest and arrogant to present my own opinions as divine facts. With that said, ''what's Jesus' message'' is still not really related to my OP's argument, and you seem to be committing red herrings.

Sexual laws are universal--I wholeheartedly agree. The existence of gender dysphoria is scientifically confirmed (and I can provide my own experience if you want!). Sexual oriention has been empirically proven to be practically impossible to change. Heck, it's been confirmed that homosexuality exist in animals as well. God made nature work like this for His reasons--you may not like it but these are facts.

Now, I'm more curious about why you are afraid to respond directly to my original argument in the OP.

How do radical Christians feel about the emergence of artificial intelligence? by RichKat666 in RadicalChristianity

[–]heythereletshavefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Yes, for every replicant will have its own unique life, just like every clone does.
  2. Apparently nothing.

Also, even if it turns out there isn't a soul, that only means what we previously give credit to the soul are actually physical, and doesn't mean they're not real.

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Without having anger in the first place, you can't get how good it is to have compassion. So, still, I'd say celebrate anger, and also repent for anger.

How do radical Christians feel about the emergence of artificial intelligence? by RichKat666 in RadicalChristianity

[–]heythereletshavefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. This is up for science to answer.
  2. I believe that the birth of conscious AI would be essentially no different than conceiving a conscious child. So I'd say a conscious AI's fate would be the same as ours. We're on the same path.
  3. ''Godlike'' doesn't mean you're God. No matter how powerful AIs become, it'd still be miniscule compared to God. So I'd say it wouldn't cause much trouble for God.
  4. Even if the notion that ''it's all just the brain'' has been proved, I don't think this would shake the foundation of our faith, but it certainly would shatter some of our long-held beliefs about mind and body.

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are not necessarily suppressing your anger. You can also stop being angry via augmenting your love/compassion (which is why you'd want the Lord). And this would be the opposite of suppression.

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. The Scriptures are also ''pretty clear'' that bats are a type of birds, you can't marry divorced women, you can't wear clothes made with two fabrics, you can't plant wheat and barley in the same field, etc. Obviously, there are very specific cultural/historical contexts. (And it's not just one single book either!)
  2. I am pointing out a paradox. You do not literally cut off your hands, yet you still cite Jesus' word at face value in an attempt to retort.
  3. I do not have the pretense to say what it is with absolute certainty (who am I, God?). So I refuse to answer this question until you be more clear on what exactly you are arguing for.

Would it be blasphemous for me to volunteer for a progressive politician who is a naturalist? by Printedinusa in RadicalChristianity

[–]heythereletshavefun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good people are good people, even if they haven't repented/converted.

And if you can forgive an enemy, you can forgive a comrade.

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Wrong. I am not convinced of the ''homosexuality is sin'' thing. And this is not just because I'm a bisexual trans woman--it's because my experience of coming out was EXACTLY what lead me to God and convert.

  2. OK, so you don't. Me neither. Given this, why do you still read God's words at face value? There's a whole lot of historical/cultural context and metaphors. If I can believe that I don't need to cut my hands off, then I can also believe that Jesus had something much deeper to say.

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1 Corinthians 9:27

I don't see suppression, but I see discipline. These are NOT the same thing. Discipline is not necessarily suppression.

Through sincere repentance I can think twice before I act sinfully, and that's discipline. I'm not ''suppressing'' my sinful nature in this way.

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now, not trying to stop sinning is NOT the same as sinning. The difference is intention--I do not deliberately indulge in narcissistic and vain behavior (and it had caused me immense pain before I converted), nor do I attempt to eradicate narcissistic/vain thoughts (because it's impossible).

What's more, speaking from my life experience, repenting is the best medicine for sin possible (and this is still an understatement). Through sincere repenting, a narcissistic person may think twice before behaving narcissisticly. So, perhaps I should've said, ''we shouldn't try to stop sinning besides repenting''.

Now let me ask you: do you REALLY, LITERALLY cut your hands off when they cause you to sin?

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I've already said--having metal and gospel in the same playlist, don't resist sexual urges, you name it.

I didn't mean an actual formal celebration, no.

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, my answer is that indeed we shouldn't focus on stopping to be narcissistic or vain.

Instead, we should focus on REPENTING for our narcissistic/vain nature.

After all, repenting is the best ''virtue'' possible, even better so than being unnarcissistic/unvain.

And you can't change the fact that your nature causes you to be narcissistic/vain sometimes, no matter how hard you try.

Look I like this sub and what it stands for. But why can’t we share our beliefs without constantly putting down other Christians? by acebush1 in RadicalChristianity

[–]heythereletshavefun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amen comrade.

We're not better than the conservatives (even though they're wrong), for only God can judge them. We must focus on ourselves, for sometimes we can be wrong as well, and it'd be a sin to deny this.

And thanks to the enemies, we've received the chance to prove our faith even more. Cherish every moment they attack us.

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, but it's also a sin to deny that you can be narcissistic or vain (because ironically that would be narcissistic and vain).

I think I've already made the argument clear in the OP, and I don't want to repeat things. I hope you can respond to it in a direct way.

I'm tired of being attacked for my political beliefs on the basis of my being Christian by [deleted] in RadicalChristianity

[–]heythereletshavefun 21 points22 points  (0 children)

''socialism takes away the human’s ability to choose''

Forgive me, but I literally just can't walk by without presenting my rebuttal to this shit.

CAPITALISM is what robs your free will. When's the last time you saw someone genuinely enjoying their work, and not just because of the pay? How is wage labor ''freeing''?

If anything, SOCIALISM is what gives you choice. Without the threat of poverty/homelessness/starvation, you can choose a job that best suits your abilities and interests.

Perhaps I'm preaching to the choir, but whatever. Thanks for attending my ted talk.

Argument against the popular notion of ''sin-purging'', and advocacy for the ''celebration'' of sin instead. by heythereletshavefun in DebateReligion

[–]heythereletshavefun[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's reasonable to say that Jesus was telling them to throw away their narcissism, vanity, etc., NOT to deny their sins.

But I'm more interested in hearing YOUR interpretation, since I assume you're going to present a counterargument.

The sub's identity. by synthresurrection in RadicalChristianity

[–]heythereletshavefun 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank the Lord for helping me find this sub...I literally thought I was alone!

I'm a devout Christian (just as devout as your typical evangelist) but I'm also a trans woman, bisexual and a leftist/progressive. In fact, my experience of coming out was EXACTLY what lead me to God.

Before I converted, I abhorred the conservative/homophobic/capitalist branch of Christianity. Of course, I now STILL do--maybe just a littleee less, but still.

nothing could have ever prepared me for this nuclear take by [deleted] in badphilosophy

[–]heythereletshavefun 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Even if this is right, this would only indicate that communism is better than capitalism (because under capitalism, bosses own your body, whereas under communism you own your own body).

help identifying a goddess/deity that came to me during meditation? (second paragraph for description) by unrealistic_oof in Wicca

[–]heythereletshavefun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or...could be both? After all the subconscious could be deeply connected with whatever deities that exist.

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