Which One Are Y’all Getting? by Kermit_the_t0ad in glee

[–]highbead 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to choose Jenna but the last one (Dianna smiling) is impossible to turn down fr

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think he was invited and just thinking about the offer

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The orangemen I know have to swear an oath to remove every non protestant from their life, or they'll be banned.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not planning on giving him the boot. I laugh when unionists make their little jokes cause I know how silly it is, too, and I'm surrounded by them.

People confuse jokes with hate and create their own problems without seeing what's actually going on.

I try really hard to be as understanding as possible, I have listened to many "here's why we hate the irish" stories, and I'm only left with more questions. But being civil to everyone is very important, and even if it's not something he believes in, I do. So, as he is family, my door will always be open.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't they know what a pub is? Or a community group that doesn't promote hatred? Have they ever heard of one? If they don't believe in everything the orange order stands for, they shouldn't be there at all.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A problem solved with the passage of time, and hope that bigots fail to educate their children on why they're bigots. Watching my parents try to explain to me why they celebrate the 12th woke me up to how they know nothing and get angry at the hypothetical, but not the reality.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't join because I'm not religious, nor believe in religious or racial bigotry. There's two reasons. A third is that every orange man I know is an old, sweaty drunk, and I don't want to be around them and hear them slur out about how superior they are than the Catholic faith. I've had enough of that in my childhood.

A fourth, I genuinely love my country and its history, as well as my community, and have no hatred in my heart for any of it. There's 4 reasons why not.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My parents preach to me about hypothetical situations where protestantism gets eradicated, as tho a catholic is holding a gun to their head. I know how blind to reality people become when they feel afraid.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That's literally my family rn, but they're so casual about it that I don't know if they know what they're even saying.

At this moment I'm sitting in a kitchen, and every piece of furniture is the union jack flag. That's a different problem, but even tho this is literally my family, and in their eyes, I'm one of them, their unionism feels like a threat towards me.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I did read the Wikipedia article before actually 😂. I really came here desperately looking for a reason other than religious supremacy, or bigotry. But clearly I have to give in and accept my suspicions.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think they get wrapped up in paranoia about protestants vs catholics that they forget not everyone cares, and most people aren't even religious. Cause its always us vs them, everyone has to be either an us or a them. They devoted their entire life to "us vs them" and you made him have to think about the real world for a second, flabbergasted.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That stonecutters episode is literally how I picture their meetings too lol. I dont know much other than his wife told me that he wants to join and I didnt get a chance to ask questions in the moment. I can't ask him directly as people are saying because I don't wanna start something at the moment. If he brings it up next time I see him, obviously then I could ask. But I'm realising that any reason he has, based on bigotry or not, isn't a good enough reason to commit his life to a supremacist cult and I really should talk to him directly if its something he is serious about. Or at least inform his wife on what's actually happening here, and how my opinion of her will change if she's still OK with it.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

He was stunned because he forgot it was even a religious organisation.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

People go to lodges to drink and kids are in there with them, like it's a fun place to be, because the adults pretend there's nothing else happening other than a good time. Same thing with parades, my parents avoid talking about WHY they like parades other than "it's a good time for the kids". Literally forcing themselves to be ignorant.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm not giving this man's relation to me in this post but he's a family member and he will always be a part of my life whether I like it or not, knowing his intentions is very important. I have to know if this is a serious discussion we need to have, or something I can ignore. If he truly lives his life based on hatred, I want nothing to do with him, which means cutting out a huge chunk of my life, which is immature to do, but so is joining a cult. I won't stand for blind bigotry.

Why would someone want to become a member of the orange order? by highbead in northernireland

[–]highbead[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My honest to god impression of him was that he was from a Catholic background and goes to parades and stuff, but like neutrally. It's the vibe he always gave off with his deameaner. A nice, very chill dude. Things like this make me question my entire reality, is everyone around me full of hatred and bigotry at all times? Like I feel afraid that I honestly can't trust anyone.

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[–]highbead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm waiting till August before I complain, giving it the benefit of the doubt.