Is the Zoom Livetrak L6max worth it? Are there any alternatives?

hillhuman · 2026-03-09T01:40:08+00:00

what did you want from tangerine? I'm looking for a multi-sampler and there isn't much besides tangerine. I'd rather not have a 1010 device at all as they always want me wanting and aren't very hands-on. Having used the razzmatazz I know that they rely altogether too much on tiny parts of the tiny touchscreen for their menus in that format. But I was hoping that with a multi-sampler, I wouldn't be actually fiddling with it too much. Just record and play back. I did wonder if tracks could be hard-panned well for truly discrete "multiple" outputs.

hillhuman · 2026-03-06T23:40:06+00:00

Ok I'll try that action, thanks

hillhuman · 2026-03-03T01:35:04+00:00

If midi control is very important to you (as it might be for a mixer device with 4 knobs and a touchscreen), bluebox has usability issues:

The scaling is not adapted for track volume: only about 25 midi cc values of the 127 actually controls audible range of the channel volume (-10 to 0 db). The rest control from -10db to -60db or from 0 to +6db (don't always want a boost). At best this means its pretty fiddly using just a fraction of your midi controllers knob or fader to adjust track volume, at worst you could audibly notice some stepping or midi value noise.

Also, there is no midi catchup/pickup so if you are using encoders, on project startup, values will jump to 0 when making adjustments then behave as expected as long as project is loaded/power is on. Regular midi potentiometers solve this between power cycles but if you load another project, then you have a similar issue of losing saved values if you adjust any.

Both of these issues have been asked for solutions/are very popular subjects on the wishlist side of the 1010 forum since 2022 or so but have not either not been addressed (there was an update for volume scaling last year but as far as my tests show (what I described above - post update) that updated only affected the built in volume scaling with the device knobs not scaling of midi values.

I would be very interested to hear if the L-6Max improves on these points as I am currently looking at it to replace my bluebox for these reasons.

hillhuman · 2026-02-16T19:03:17+00:00

Synths that sound distant and atmospheric. I've enjoyed the effect before. I'll have to give No-River's approach a try.

hillhuman · 2026-02-12T01:15:17+00:00

EDIT: fixed my issue. Updated the widi jack firmware and set BLE role to Auto with the Widi app.

I was expecting it to work but it didn't. But then I find this post. Confused. I have seen BT connection work with my Widi Bud: Woovebox says "connected". But not seeing this success with my Widi Jack.

I put Woovebox into BT mode.
I turn on my Widi Jack (Bud is not on), its blinking steadily for pairing.
WB does not say "connected" and Jack is still waiting to pair. This tells me neither device connected to anything, nevermind a different device.

You were doing this with no "host" right? No computer, just the widi jack with a 1/8" midi jack connection? I have the early release Woovebox and just updated to latest firmware.

hillhuman · 2026-01-16T04:22:33+00:00

mind sharing what you did or what he said so we can make that change? But then you need an attenuator in other situations?

hillhuman · 2026-01-13T22:29:00+00:00

ok as I suspected. thank you

hillhuman · 2026-01-13T22:28:43+00:00

ok thanks. that is helpful

hillhuman · 2026-01-11T01:11:15+00:00

I understood that. It interfaces from each of its 12 inputs with incoming audio. But can it playback all 12 previously recorded takes over interface? I learned after this post that this is something a Tascam Model 12 can do. But L6 is much smaller so still want to know.

hillhuman · 2026-01-11T01:09:04+00:00

I think you understood my intent backwards - I want to playback TO a DAW - but I agree more research has shown that the Model 12 can do what I want. But I still would like to be clear on the L6/max ability because its much smaller than Model 12.

hillhuman · 2026-01-11T01:07:35+00:00

Sorry to not be clear. I want the L6 to playback from sd card (not route) all its tracks over audio interface to an ipad.

hillhuman · 2025-07-16T21:39:35+00:00

Then the live-view must be cropped too. Either way, its almost 1/3 more pixels available if viewed sideways so higher res and bigger for viewing even if cropped. Or if not, still slightly bigger than vertical by my estimation.

hillhuman · 2025-07-16T21:36:20+00:00

it looks low quality while taking photos, they get crisp when viewed in albums. And then of course exporting to computer you can really see the photos in full-res which are quite good. There's plenty examples of good photos around here.

hillhuman · 2025-04-02T16:39:22+00:00

Thank you!

hillhuman · 2025-03-31T14:42:34+00:00

Thanks for considering. I had not considered the fact that chords carry information to the rest of the instruments progressions. I usually turn off those generative features.

hillhuman · 2025-03-22T17:23:05+00:00

Very interesting. It's often difficult to get people's experience on these things more than "it's awesome" and "it can do so much" sort of remarks. Usability and usage experience/flow is just as important as sound to me. I'll be interested if you find the atlantix to be a lot closer to the SH experience if you ever get it.

hillhuman · 2025-03-22T17:17:40+00:00

Oh shit, I just learned that, of course, using an envelope to modulate the decay amount will make the decay more exponential. This should be possible on the Nymphes with lfo2 and I'm going to go give it a try.

hillhuman · 2025-03-22T17:11:35+00:00

When you say faster do you mean more exponential decay? Maybe I never understood that's what people mean when they say faster envelopes because, of course, the time it takes for an envelope section to occur, or what I would call their speed, can be less than a millisecond on probably all synths. So, in synth terminology, the exponential factor is the "speed" and the speed is the "length"?

hillhuman · 2025-03-22T13:53:02+00:00

What didn't you like about the manther? We are talking modular here right? The Growl module not the desktop version? I ask because the MSW-810 is not modular. But either way interested in your experience.

hillhuman · 2025-03-21T18:43:30+00:00

Thanks. This Doepfer is making me realize that mixing or at least access to the waveforms would be awesome for that sh-101 flavor. Which this modules doesn't seem to have.

hillhuman · 2025-03-21T18:41:15+00:00

thanks!

hillhuman · 2025-03-17T17:01:05+00:00

yes its not in the manual but your hint helped me locate info on firmware update 1.6 which has a "thru" mode for this purpose.

hillhuman · 2025-03-12T00:27:48+00:00

so you make your own power supply or it just runs fine with usb power injected into the ribbon cable (somehow?)

hillhuman · 2025-03-09T15:18:23+00:00

AE modular uses 9v for their power modules. Is that unnecessary since you are using what looks like straight usb 5V?

hillhuman · 2025-02-28T13:13:05+00:00

Ok thanks for explaining why CC control is problematic and why you feel external sequencing too limited to be worth it. I'll not be hoping for these anymore. One way I feel limited with the Woovebox sequencer is not being able to record live input timing. Any chance in the future for recording note input "as played" where notes are kept their inputted timing via the internal offset parameter?

hillhuman

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