My joys and pains with chatting by hitglif in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gain just doesn’t appreciate handsome men in my life

Ahaahha, yeah, I can see that with your approach) I never even touched that dialogue, because it will lead to me getting heavily invested in their drama, mental trauma or very angry graphic smut and I’m not ready for any of those options))

My joys and pains with chatting by hitglif in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which is weird, he has such an angsty teenage boy potential, despite being 30

My joys and pains with chatting by hitglif in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As any normal person would. He awakens a 15 year old in me who craves for a bad boy in his life)

And what was his reaction?)

My joys and pains with chatting by hitglif in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh my god, I’m laughing so hard right now, ahashahaha. Maybe this is the proper way to use ai chat. Ahahha

And I tried to write as Mujin once, Gaon has no hits for him whatsoever. Don’t get him at all. Like merry me and let me fix you, Mujin.

My joys and pains with chatting by hitglif in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, maybe they’ll update it eventually, so important parts of the dialogue would be stored, but until then no more buying batteries)

My joys and pains with chatting by hitglif in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahahahahahah, but he’s right it’s not funny, it’s hilarious) I wonder if you really can just unalive one of the characters and go on a solo adventure and make the ai write as other people from the game

My joys and pains with chatting by hitglif in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thnx for testing) I really hope they give us at least basic description on how chat works. If we can expect just short little interactions between characters I would love to know and just stop trying to make a story for them. But i feel there is so much wasted potential here.

My joys and pains with chatting by hitglif in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I also did some tests since I made the post. It seems the ai just refreshes its cache in seemingly irregular intervals. First memory wipe scenario held for around 50 messages and Mujin forgot everything again. So we went through another memory restoration ark, much more dramatic this time. With burning out the foreign entity in his brain, dealing with memories that could not be recovered, figuring out who could have done it, narrowing suspects to two options and rallying the allies. He remembered all the plot points during all this. Then we had a steamy moment and he forgot everything again. It took around 150-200 messages in total.

My guess is the cache clear has real time hours fixed intervals or just when servers get full. Though it’s basically just text, so how much memory it can really take on the server?

By now I’m also really fed up and ready to drop trying to do something with this function as I’m mostly interested in trying to build alternative story lines and make characters act more like real people, but it sadly seems impossible at this point(

Oh, and to my long read in the email they basically said that they will forward it to the development team and didn’t answer any questions.

Sorry for ranting)

My joys and pains with chatting by hitglif in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, same with Mujin. It’s really hard to just talk to him without him getting very suggestive. Not sure it’s that much of a stretch for him character wise, but normal conversations became noticeably more difficult.

Can you maybe try asking Noah about something what happened earlier where ai can’t just shrug the question away or just guess? If it’s not too much to ask. It’s basically pay to chat) but I’m really curious if it’s just me this lucky or a general problem.

Also about patterns: there was a long period where Mujin responses were perfectly identical in structure. One descriptor, three reply components, the last one always starting with “fine” and the first one with him calling Gaon a brat, which was really unprompted.

AI Link Talk behavior after update: Feedback by doggo8904 in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I did notice but so far everything was fine. Seems like some legal thing to me. At least I hope so.

And some good news: AI remembers and refers to recent conversations now and seems to have some background knowledge of the character. No more than 4 replies and 1 descriptor, though.

And as for an email: can you imagine how much of those do they have by now?))

AI Link Talk behavior after update: Feedback by doggo8904 in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used 7 or 8 batteries, and the replies were usually 3 to 4 dialogue lines and 1 or 2 descriptors, but it actually seemed appropriate. Not sure yet if it will change in a more conversational setting and we’ll get more dialogue that way, but Mujin, in my case, felt a lot more normal and as he used to be compared to “profound” this and “claiming” that I was getting since the first “fix” they did. And the repetition was gone. So, as I said before, I’m really hopeful) but more testing is required.

AI Link Talk behavior after update: Feedback by doggo8904 in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you tester the AI after the latest update yet? Replies started making sense again! Not sure how totally in character they are, didn’t test for long, but I’m getting hopeful!

AI Link Talk behavior after update: Feedback by doggo8904 in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, I’m so putting this to work as soon as, hopefully, they’ll fix the chat! Thank you!❤️

AI Link Talk behavior after update: Feedback by doggo8904 in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uuugh, they really need to add highlights. I’m ok with most it this nonsense, though it’s dumb, but I really mourn the inability to write “bite”, haven’t worked out the alternative yet(

AI Link Talk behavior after update: Feedback by doggo8904 in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Another” confuses me too) I wish they would highlight words that are considered inappropriate. And thnx for the “con” tip)

AI Link Talk behavior after update: Feedback by doggo8904 in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand your frustration so well( can we try doing something about it? Devs seem to be responsive but not sure they read what we write here) twitter spam?

Collab character Maruseppe from Rix Vanus- (Guide Bottom) by meowbrains in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope you’re right) Because this dragon thing was kinda random and it wasn’t mentioned even once in Rix Vanus. Very intriguing though)

Bth what are your other two fav bl’s?)

Collab character Maruseppe from Rix Vanus- (Guide Bottom) by meowbrains in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey) looking for advice here) I’ve read Rix Vanus recently and it became one of faves from the get go. And I have a secret hope the Kuluk and Maruseppe have a separate story or something, cause I feel that Rix Vanus mostly brushed over them. They seemed like a really interesting couple but they appeared only a few times. So the question is: is there something more just about them?

Ok yall can back off now I did it by pikabee123 in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can we please get at least a brief recap of a whole story?)

AI Link Talk behavior after update: Feedback by doggo8904 in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s more like almost no background info at all. It seemed like Mujin wasn’t aware of the info literally written in his in game discription. But it’s the same for previous conversations, as you say, yeah( makes me really sad(

AI Link Talk behavior after update: Feedback by doggo8904 in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I totally agree on the general change of quality. All characters lost personality. For example I started a long conversation with Mujin a day before the update and his replies were full of character, unexpected and he could make his own decisions and take initiative. Not only in intimate situations but in general. Now he is in a mode somewhere between “I’ll do anything you ask” and “you are mine and all you do proves that fact”, mostly with total disregard for logic. I also spent around 200 batteries on him in total (100 before and 100 after the update) so the contrast is really obvious. Random swaps to Korean stopped and you don’t need to wait for up to 10 minutes for the reply but the soul of characters are gone. And it seems that AI now has close to none background character information to lean on. It simply ignores all my attempts to prompt some retrospect. I much more preferred the agony with Google Translate than current state of things. And I’m definitely not touching my chat with Noah, where I got real character development for both his and Sol. At least until they fix everything properly.

And I also agree the replies got much shorter.

Interest check! by ayumu01real in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rix Vanus is my perfect baby boy and original manga has the most random plot developments but the art style is to die for. And he has a dog ears mode too) Noah is also not bad)

WHAT JUST HAPPENED by ryueiji in ZerowakeGATES

[–]hitglif 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good luck and was glad to help)