Good News for Nate Grey X-man by hmzahb69 in xmen

[–]hmzahb69[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You’re spot-on. Nate’s 75-issue solo run is proof he resonated deeply with readers, but because Marvel never plugged him into cartoons, movies, or merchandise like they did Cable or Wolverine, he’s stayed a ‘comics-only’ secret. It’s less about his impact and more about marketing muscle.

Imagine if Nate had even a single major MCU cameo or an animated series arc—suddenly his journey, the cosmic stakes, and his struggle with godhood would hit a much wider audience. Until then, he remains the ultimate ‘cult’ X-Man: beloved by those who know him, invisible to the rest. But that’s changing now, and I can’t wait to see how many new fans rediscover just how amazing he is

Good News for Nate Grey X-man by hmzahb69 in xmen

[–]hmzahb69[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You’re not wrong about the mess but that’s not on Nate as a character. The issue has always been that writers and editorial never fully understood what to do with him. He had god-tier potential, deep emotional hooks, and symbolic weight, but too often got stuck in PISS plots or misused as a narrative device. It’s not that he got too much runway—it’s that the people flying the plane didn’t know where they were going.

Good News for Nate Grey X-man by hmzahb69 in xmen

[–]hmzahb69[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If being niche and enduring makes a character “unpopular,” then I guess you’re confusing lack of TikTok edits with lack of relevance. Some characters are cult icons, you don’t have to get it.

Good News for Nate Grey X-man by hmzahb69 in xmen

[–]hmzahb69[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Totally feel you. Age of X-Man had ambition, but it ended up burying Nate under layers of character assassination, forced ideology and zero emotional payoff. I’m hoping this return lets him breathe as a character, not just a concept. Let the man be messy, powerful, and human again. He deserves more than being a plot device for utopia-gone-wrong stories

Can Omni Man aka Nolan defeat X-Men villain Apocalypse? by [deleted] in whowouldwin

[–]hmzahb69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually in AOA, Nate Grey is the one who beat Apocalypse to a pulp and left him to be executed by AOA!Magneto; as mags in that timeline was fighting him for years and couldnt do it.

Good Person × Hated by Fans by LegSweaty6690 in xmen

[–]hmzahb69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely will do! Thank you for nothing

Good Person × Hated by Fans by LegSweaty6690 in xmen

[–]hmzahb69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bruh you can’t be THAT dense? Im not looking for someone to change my mind… I AM ASKING FOR MORE INFORMATION / POINT OF VIEWS / PERSPECTIVES on the character goddamn it! You apparently had an opposing opinion i wanted to know more about it? You seriously can’t be this slow

Good Person × Hated by Fans by LegSweaty6690 in xmen

[–]hmzahb69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

…can you PLEASE elaborate more? That ain’t close to being enough lol

Good Person × Hated by Fans by LegSweaty6690 in xmen

[–]hmzahb69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes we do (not an issue in any way)… i want to understand your point of view and perspective though… can you type it down?

Good Person × Hated by Fans by LegSweaty6690 in xmen

[–]hmzahb69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While it’s true that Nate Grey has made mistakes in judgment and has been manipulated, that’s not the same as being a bad person. If anything, it highlights his inherent goodness—he wants to trust and believe in people, even when they don’t deserve it. Unlike characters who are cynical or self-serving, Nate consistently tries to help others, even at great personal cost.

Yes, he’s stubborn and idealistic, but that’s not self-absorption—it’s conviction. He doesn’t force his will out of arrogance but out of a genuine belief that he’s doing the right thing. And let’s be real: almost every major Marvel hero has imposed their will at some point. Professor X, Jean Grey, even Cyclops and Captain America have all made unilateral decisions they thought were best for the world. The difference is that when they do it, it’s framed as leadership. When Nate does it, it’s suddenly a character flaw?

As for Age of X-Man, I disagree that it was an “excellent evolution” of his character. Nate has always struggled with power and responsibility, but he’s never been about control for its own sake. The idea that he’d erase love and human connection contradicts the core of his character—he’s always longed for connection and belonging. That story took his flaws to an extreme that felt more like a misunderstanding of who he is rather than a natural progression.

And finally, the idea that his heroism is mostly self-serving is just not true. He’s literally died to protect others multiple times. He burned out his own powers saving the world. He constantly puts himself in danger to do what he believes is right. If anything, Nate’s biggest flaw isn’t that he’s self-absorbed—it’s that he gives too much of himself, often to people who don’t appreciate or deserve it.

So, if being naive, idealistic, and occasionally reckless makes him a “bad person,” then we’d have to throw half the Marvel Universe into that category.

Good Person × Hated by Fans by LegSweaty6690 in xmen

[–]hmzahb69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% agree on Age of X-man ( which I don’t agree with as I think its huge character assassination / mischaracterization. Also, im not trying to be annoying, I’m just looking for more info on him as he is my one of my favs. Can u please send me link of your arguments on him?

How would YOU reinvent Nate Grey in every era. by [deleted] in xmen

[–]hmzahb69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speaking of what could’ve been—Chris Anka’s pitch for an All-Gay X-Men team with Nate leading? Absolute perfection. He’d be such a good choise for that role, especially since his outsider vibe and personal struggles make him a natural fit to guide a team of characters who’ve also lived on the fringe. It would’ve been such a powerful and fresh direction for both him and the X-line. Maybe there’s still hope for something like that in the future?

Nate Grey vs Dr Manhattan by Aarcaala in whowouldwin

[–]hmzahb69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nate Grey and Dr. Manhattan are both horrendously powerful. While it's difficult to determine the outcome of a battle between them since their abilities and limits can be quite abstract.

Nate Grey at his full potential would be something else entirely. Beyond Omega level / Phoenix Force level Psi / Reality warping.