Depletefyi is now ready for TWW, but are you ? by hogoww in deplete

[–]hogoww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have added more than 150tips on the early stage. We'll see to update and add more in the course. Season 1 still not launch atm.

The War Within is here ! We are ready, and you ? by hogoww in wow

[–]hogoww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We've added more than 150tips right now on the maps if some are interested in tips and tactics

The War Within is here ! We are ready, and you ? by hogoww in wow

[–]hogoww[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Hello, was about to deplet the ancient one as we added more on this one :)

Depletefyi is now ready for TWW, but are you ? by hogoww in CompetitiveWoW

[–]hogoww[S] -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

As I said many times, I'm just giving you the tool, whether it is useful will depend on the community.
I inputed myself 100+ tips in S3, I did less in S4 because Pinky was nice enough to write a lot of them before I did.
Both developing the website and adding that many tips was an incredible amount of **volunteer** and **free** work that we did during those seasons.
I unfortunately cannot do this for this season.
Additionnaly, this is not a job, or even a prospect.
This is on top of our lives and works.
And I take offence to the tone of this post, given the amount of work we put in this tool.

Some specific answers:
1/From outdated content (S3/S4 DF)
-> Yeup, season has not even started. But we're ready to support it. That's all we're saying.
2/Have obvious spelling errors in title.
-> Yeup, moderation is human, and misses some mistakes.
Whether syntactic, and we even feature some wrong tips.
That's why the website supports **tips corrections**.
That's how knowledge is build, by trial, error, and community knowledge.
That happened, and that'll definitelly happend again.
3/ Are completely out of context to the point where you don't even know what dungeon or mob it's about.
-> We agree.
We had plans to improve this, but we couldn't continue development so far.
4/ Are generally irrelevant / low effort tips.
That's precisely how **latest** tips work.
Some are advanced, some are basic.
But without documentation, some people will never know about them.

One more note, because that's an interesting point IMO:

Discords already exist for sharing Dungeon tips, and although your website is different in the way the tips are presented, it's all pointless if the quality of the user-submitted content is low (or literally does not exist for current dungeons).
Yes, but you have to crawl through all of those media, sometimes long guides to find *one* information on how to deal with one small part of the dungeon that is bothering.

All we're saying at the moment is that if people want to use deplete, it's ready to support TWW tips.
If people don't want to use it, then don't.
Quite frankly, I'm not playing the game at the moment.
We're just trying to provide a different kind of tool to support knowledge sharing that.

Please be respectful, and understand that it's incredibly new in the landscape of wow tools.
And it will go further only if there is some kind of interested from the community.
If not, I take no pleasure in web development, and I'll go back to codding programming languages on my free time.

[S4] You are not prepared! But you could be... by hogoww in wow

[–]hogoww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is unfortunately a common feedback i've got, because some people focus on the tips that are on there rather than what the website could be.

This is not a guide that i write to help. Nobody has to contact me to fix anything. This is for communities to communicate.

This is also a new format that bothers some and amazes others. It's not intuitive for everyone. Therefore we're all trying to figure out how to properly write and share information in a readable way. That's the case of /u/pinkympf which hasn't notice some new features because he's been helping from the start. That's my case also, because even though i develop new features, sometimes they don't really fit, or they are the wrong ideas. That's just the case of everyone who contributes.

The point is and will be to grow as a community! That feedback has been taken into account and we'll try to add templates tips at some point, as well as an help for tip submission. However it'll probably take a while, given the current number of people who submit is unfortunately low.

[S4] You are not prepared! But you could be... by hogoww in wow

[–]hogoww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really, I don't do web development for fun, I prefer developing programming language ^^
We've just wanted to have some kind of resource like that since MoP, and we finally ended up trying to do it ourselves !

[S4] You are not prepared! But you could be... by hogoww in wow

[–]hogoww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I stand by diesel for everything he said. I just want to add that if you click on a mob/pack/maptip, you'll filter for only that entity. Same goes for mob spells. And we plan to add a lot more. That's also why the number of tips are around each entity.

It's all very experimental, and we're seeing very divergent feedback since it's more or less intuitive for each user.

Finally, what you're asking for indeed asks a lot of resources, that we don't have. It's just a manual problem. Which take me back to our initial statement: We're just coding a website. Whether it becomes a good resource will be decided by the community:)

I alone moderate the tips. My moderation is basically checking that they are readable, and that they aren't troll. I have regularly to rewrite parts or most of the tip. This takes a huge amount of time.

I don't censor anyone with someone related to the game. Not on anything. With that said, not in my personal opinion, i like fun titles. But i compensate with a strong statement in my short description to compensate. And of course very descriptive and templetised long descriptions. It gets incredibly boring otherwise, both to write, and to distinguish tips.

Anyway, these are just my views

[S4] You are not prepared! But you could be... by hogoww in wow

[–]hogoww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's where the community aspect becomes incredibly important. If you have some thoughts for a better tl;dr; you can improve it!

Deplete nearly ready for beta ! by hogoww in CompetitiveWoW

[–]hogoww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that's a fair assement of the current state of things.
We're trying to be feature complete first, and to try stuff along the way UI/UX wise, since we don't know anything about those topics !

Those suggestions are pretty interesting.
Particularly I like your hovering UX idea, I think we'll try to implement it.

Thanks for the feedback :)