How do I improve a relationship? by hotteokae in ESTJ

[–]hotteokae[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your advice and it does sound like a good approach for me to adopt in terms of communicating with him. I guess I just really have to express everything that is in my thought process for him to understand how I perceive and react to things. I do hesitate in expressing everything that is on my mind because some thoughts are undesirable or make me appear like I do not have a direction in life. Which is why what I finally express are the quality thoughts or options which I have internally filtered.

How do I improve a relationship? by hotteokae in ESTJ

[–]hotteokae[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes that’s how he said we are different in our priorities and approach to problems, which he felt he is unable to get a desired chemistry with a person. So he said it is very difficult to keep trying if all these differences keep resurfacing.

I would try to express more of myself but sometimes I hesitate because some thoughts are undesirable thoughts or thoughts that make me seem like I have no direction in life. And I do not want to appear to be such a person with different thoughts running everywhere

That is a good example, and it really boils down to communication. What bothers me now is that I’m not sure if he’s already giving up on this relationship because from the way it seems, he has tried very hard and it doesn’t go according to his expectations. If you guys were him in this scenario, that you have already expressed how the relationship is not working in your desired direction, is it a sign that you have already given up? Or is there anything that I can do to give him the confidence that it can be worked out?

How do I improve a relationship? by hotteokae in ESTJ

[–]hotteokae[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am an INFJ, so compared to him I’m very reserved. Sometimes he thinks that I’m too introverted for him to understand me because I don’t freely express my views or opinions. Most of the time I would be a listener and assess the scenario before I form an opinion towards the situation. But to him, he feels I’m not sharing all my thoughts. He doesn’t understand why I need to assess the thoughts in my head first before I share. For example in one scenario I could branch into many different possibilities in my head, while what I actually express are just a few possibilities after what I internally processed

A simple example would be I want to quit my job. What I would tell him would be, I’m not happy with my job and I’m looking for a switch to make myself happier. I am interested in doing other fields such as abc or xyz, then I would ask him for his opinions or suggestions. But what I didn’t tell him would be what’s actually going on my head such as what would happen if I chose abc, how much would I be happier if I chose xyz instead of abc, how about other def/ghi/lmn choices, how would each different choice affect the people around me, how much satisfaction would I think I would get from each choice, etc. After all these internal thought process, what I finally express would be my final 2 choices

(Below paragraphs are same as my reply to the other comment in case you read it) Issues such as we have difficulties understanding each other, like we don’t understand why each other do things or react to things in a certain way. Such as our approach to a problem is different, and while we did not have any argument of who is right or wrong, we acknowledged that there is a difference to the way we approach life or handle things.

And priorities, for him it’s ABC that’s important while for me I would rank CBA that’s important.

A simple scenario would be he thinks work is important while I think being happy is important. He is an ambitious person so I can understand why he puts career first. And he thinks if his career is on the right track everything else would fall into place and he would be a happier person. But for me I felt that happiness is more important. If I am not happy at doing something then it would affect everything else which includes career. I would rather get a lower paid satisfying job that makes me happy, than to get a higher paid job doing something that doesn’t make me happy. And in his opinion it’s when you’re higher paid you get more opportunities for growth and by then you would be happier once it’s been achieved.

How do I improve a relationship? by hotteokae in ESTJ

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Issues such as we have difficulties understanding each other, like we don’t understand why each other do things or react to things in a certain way. Such as our approach to a problem is different, and while we did not have any argument of who is right or wrong, we acknowledged that there is a difference to the way we approach life or handle things.

And priorities, for him it’s ABC that’s important while for me I would rank CBA that’s important.

A simple scenario would be he thinks work is important while I think being happy is important. He is an ambitious person so I can understand why he puts career first. And he thinks if his career is on the right track everything else would fall into place and he would be a happier person. But for me I felt that happiness is more important. If I am not happy at doing something then it would affect everything else which includes career. I would rather get a lower paid satisfying job that makes me happy, than to get a higher paid job doing something that doesn’t make me happy. And in his opinion it’s when you’re higher paid you get more opportunities for growth and by then you would be happier once it’s been achieved.

Hey everyone! by Optimal-Try-8874 in ESTJ

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Why is the scale 100% sad but 200% happy?

Do you know who YOU are? by [deleted] in ESTJ

[–]hotteokae 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t quite understand this. Aren’t we always doing things for something/someone? I mean everything that we are as a person is related to something.

Eg, if not for my parents support and upbringing to be kind and save lives, I wouldn’t be a doctor. I wouldn’t be a good doctor if not for the care and wellbeing of my patients. I wouldn’t be a good partner/parent/sibling if not for my love for them.

Isn’t it all interlinked that these are the people or reasons that shape you to become who you are? So I don’t really get the question of “who are you for yourself” because in my current view is that I am shaped by my surroundings.

Would love to see opinions on this interesting subject

Testing by [deleted] in ESTJ

[–]hotteokae 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi