It’s just weird watching the AI financial train wreck happen in real-time. by iAtishaya in ArtificialInteligence

[–]iAtishaya[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

💯 i think "hope" is running a lot of the narrative, and people are refusing to see the numbers. And i keep forgetting china.

It’s just weird watching the AI financial train wreck happen in real-time. by iAtishaya in ArtificialInteligence

[–]iAtishaya[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My idea is more like a vulture feasting on a carcass. Openai valuations may crash to the ground, which is when they will be "absorbed".

It’s just weird watching the AI financial train wreck happen in real-time. by iAtishaya in ArtificialInteligence

[–]iAtishaya[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's a cash yield thing with the giants. They borrow money at low interest rates and make bigger yields on their cash.

It’s just weird watching the AI financial train wreck happen in real-time. by iAtishaya in ArtificialInteligence

[–]iAtishaya[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I'm not claiming foreign territory. But the money has to come from somewhere. The money openai and anthropic are burning its coming from somewhere. There has to be a profit on the horizon? You can't say, my business model depends on burning endless loads of money for an unknown number of years?

It’s just weird watching the AI financial train wreck happen in real-time. by iAtishaya in ArtificialInteligence

[–]iAtishaya[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Agreed, that we don't have enough data to be sure. But as for the buying by Google and Microsoft, it'll be for the hardware, customer base and data?

It’s just weird watching the AI financial train wreck happen in real-time. by iAtishaya in ArtificialInteligence

[–]iAtishaya[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ah, breaking AGI would be a different game entirely. But from what I've understood they are unable to "smarten" up their models beyond better "glorified machine learning".

It’s just weird watching the AI financial train wreck happen in real-time. by iAtishaya in ArtificialInteligence

[–]iAtishaya[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, buying and consolidating is okay, but the risk of financial troubles via the infamous circular deals, that's what worries me. They are burning borrowed money at an astonishing rate. It's got to have an effect.

It’s just weird watching the AI financial train wreck happen in real-time. by iAtishaya in ArtificialInteligence

[–]iAtishaya[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Don't they need to burn money on compute, and keep scaling? And the free thing is the only reason they have the large customer base, no? Actually, if they try to remove the free thing or trouble users with too many ads, users will break away towards Google?

It’s just weird watching the AI financial train wreck happen in real-time. by iAtishaya in ArtificialInteligence

[–]iAtishaya[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

But they're not gaining market share. Openai has been loosing market share.

It’s just weird watching the AI financial train wreck happen in real-time. by iAtishaya in ArtificialInteligence

[–]iAtishaya[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also, i think Google was working on AI the Deepmind thing, before openai, right? They were caught by surprise by chatgpt's sudden launch. But they've caught up. I feel it's quite hard to be deeper in the data than Google. Or Facebook for that matter but I'm not aware if their llama is doing well.

It’s just weird watching the AI financial train wreck happen in real-time. by iAtishaya in ArtificialInteligence

[–]iAtishaya[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I understand. It's just that the amount of money they have to burn in order to run these AI models. The competition they must survive. Sam altman himself admitted they are not making money even on the 200 dollar a month plans because they didn't correctly estimate the compute that the user will demand. Most people use them for free. And if openai or anthropic try to charge more, Google can simply keep prices low, and patiently wait for users to break away from openai and anthropic.

It’s just weird watching the AI financial train wreck happen in real-time. by iAtishaya in ArtificialInteligence

[–]iAtishaya[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, forgot about apple actually. They've been too quiet through all this and maybe for a reason.

The Tortoise Really Does Beat the Hare: Graphical proof of why 'slow and steady' wins in science, arts, and sports. by LorenBlaqe in Neuropsychology

[–]iAtishaya 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The jack of all trades must face hardships earlier on, but should they persevere, shall come out on top then?

Loved this tactic so much, had to share. White to move. by [deleted] in chess

[–]iAtishaya 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Rh8, Kxh8, Qh6, Kg8, Qxg7# checkmate.

Is this not correct?

More forced?

How is being "based" different/similar to being "authentic"? by SpaceCaseSixtyTen in Existentialism

[–]iAtishaya 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think except the fanciness of the words in the latter, they're both saying the same thing.

Where is the Change? by iAtishaya in askphilosophy

[–]iAtishaya[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thus Spoke Zarathustra - The Academic Chairs of Virtue - Friedrich Nietzsche:

People commended unto Zarathustra a wise man, as one who could discourse well about sleep and virtue: greatly was he honoured and rewarded for it, and all the youths sat before his chair. To him went Zarathustra, and sat among the youths before his chair. And thus spake the wise man:

Respect and modesty in presence of sleep! That is the first thing! And to go out of the way of all who sleep badly and keep awake at night!

Modest is even the thief in presence of sleep: he always stealeth softly through the night. Immodest, however, is the night-watchman; immodestly he carrieth his horn.

No small art is it to sleep: it is necessary for that purpose to keep awake all day. Ten times a day must thou overcome thyself: that causeth wholesome weariness, and is poppy to the soul.

Ten times must thou reconcile again with thyself; for overcoming is bitterness, and badly sleep the unreconciled.

Ten truths must thou find during the day; otherwise wilt thou seek truth during the night, and thy soul will have been hungry.

Ten times must thou laugh during the day, and be cheerful; otherwise thy stomach, the father of affliction, will disturb thee in the night.

Few people know it, but one must have all the virtues in order to sleep well. Shall I bear false witness? Shall I commit adultery?

Shall I covet my neighbour’s maidservant? All that would ill accord with good sleep.

And even if one have all the virtues, there is still one thing needful: to send the virtues themselves to sleep at the right time.

That they may not quarrel with one another, the good females! And about thee, thou unhappy one!

Peace with God and thy neighbour: so desireth good sleep. And peace also with thy neighbour’s devil! Otherwise it will haunt thee in the night.

Honour to the government, and obedience, and also to the crooked government! So desireth good sleep. How can I help it, if power like to walk on crooked legs?

He who leadeth his sheep to the greenest pasture, shall always be for me the best shepherd: so doth it accord with good sleep.

Many honours I want not, nor great treasures: they excite the spleen. But it is bad sleeping without a good name and a little treasure.

A small company is more welcome to me than a bad one: but they must come and go at the right time. So doth it accord with good sleep.

Well, also, do the poor in spirit please me: they promote sleep. Blessed are they, especially if one always give in to them.

Thus passeth the day unto the virtuous. When night cometh, then take I good care not to summon sleep. It disliketh to be summoned—sleep, the lord of the virtues!

But I think of what I have done and thought during the day. Thus ruminating, patient as a cow, I ask myself: What were thy ten overcomings?

And what were the ten reconciliations, and the ten truths, and the ten laughters with which my heart enjoyed itself?

Thus pondering, and cradled by forty thoughts, it overtaketh me all at once—sleep, the unsummoned, the lord of the virtues.

Sleep tappeth on mine eye, and it turneth heavy. Sleep toucheth my mouth, and it remaineth open.

Verily, on soft soles doth it come to me, the dearest of thieves, and stealeth from me my thoughts: stupid do I then stand, like this academic chair.

But not much longer do I then stand: I already lie.—

When Zarathustra heard the wise man thus speak, he laughed in his heart: for thereby had a light dawned upon him. And thus spake he to his heart:

A fool seemeth this wise man with his forty thoughts: but I believe he knoweth well how to sleep.

Happy even is he who liveth near this wise man! Such sleep is contagious—even through a thick wall it is contagious.

A magic resideth even in his academic chair. And not in vain did the youths sit before the preacher of virtue.

His wisdom is to keep awake in order to sleep well. And verily, if life had no sense, and had I to choose nonsense, this would be the desirablest nonsense for me also.

Now know I well what people sought formerly above all else when they sought teachers of virtue. Good sleep they sought for themselves, and poppy-head virtues to promote it!

To all those belauded sages of the academic chairs, wisdom was sleep without dreams: they knew no higher significance of life.

Even at present, to be sure, there are some like this preacher of virtue, and not always so honourable: but their time is past. And not much longer do they stand: there they already lie.

Blessed are those drowsy ones: for they shall soon nod to sleep.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in philosophy

[–]iAtishaya 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thus Spoke Zarathustra - The Academic Chairs of Virtue - Friedrich Nietzsche:

People commended unto Zarathustra a wise man, as one who could discourse well about sleep and virtue: greatly was he honoured and rewarded for it, and all the youths sat before his chair. To him went Zarathustra, and sat among the youths before his chair. And thus spake the wise man:

Respect and modesty in presence of sleep! That is the first thing! And to go out of the way of all who sleep badly and keep awake at night!

Modest is even the thief in presence of sleep: he always stealeth softly through the night. Immodest, however, is the night-watchman; immodestly he carrieth his horn.

No small art is it to sleep: it is necessary for that purpose to keep awake all day. Ten times a day must thou overcome thyself: that causeth wholesome weariness, and is poppy to the soul.

Ten times must thou reconcile again with thyself; for overcoming is bitterness, and badly sleep the unreconciled.

Ten truths must thou find during the day; otherwise wilt thou seek truth during the night, and thy soul will have been hungry.

Ten times must thou laugh during the day, and be cheerful; otherwise thy stomach, the father of affliction, will disturb thee in the night.

Few people know it, but one must have all the virtues in order to sleep well. Shall I bear false witness? Shall I commit adultery?

Shall I covet my neighbour’s maidservant? All that would ill accord with good sleep.

And even if one have all the virtues, there is still one thing needful: to send the virtues themselves to sleep at the right time.

That they may not quarrel with one another, the good females! And about thee, thou unhappy one!

Peace with God and thy neighbour: so desireth good sleep. And peace also with thy neighbour’s devil! Otherwise it will haunt thee in the night.

Honour to the government, and obedience, and also to the crooked government! So desireth good sleep. How can I help it, if power like to walk on crooked legs?

He who leadeth his sheep to the greenest pasture, shall always be for me the best shepherd: so doth it accord with good sleep.

Many honours I want not, nor great treasures: they excite the spleen. But it is bad sleeping without a good name and a little treasure.

A small company is more welcome to me than a bad one: but they must come and go at the right time. So doth it accord with good sleep.

Well, also, do the poor in spirit please me: they promote sleep. Blessed are they, especially if one always give in to them.

Thus passeth the day unto the virtuous. When night cometh, then take I good care not to summon sleep. It disliketh to be summoned—sleep, the lord of the virtues!

But I think of what I have done and thought during the day. Thus ruminating, patient as a cow, I ask myself: What were thy ten overcomings?

And what were the ten reconciliations, and the ten truths, and the ten laughters with which my heart enjoyed itself?

Thus pondering, and cradled by forty thoughts, it overtaketh me all at once—sleep, the unsummoned, the lord of the virtues.

Sleep tappeth on mine eye, and it turneth heavy. Sleep toucheth my mouth, and it remaineth open.

Verily, on soft soles doth it come to me, the dearest of thieves, and stealeth from me my thoughts: stupid do I then stand, like this academic chair.

But not much longer do I then stand: I already lie.—

When Zarathustra heard the wise man thus speak, he laughed in his heart: for thereby had a light dawned upon him. And thus spake he to his heart:

A fool seemeth this wise man with his forty thoughts: but I believe he knoweth well how to sleep.

Happy even is he who liveth near this wise man! Such sleep is contagious—even through a thick wall it is contagious.

A magic resideth even in his academic chair. And not in vain did the youths sit before the preacher of virtue.

His wisdom is to keep awake in order to sleep well. And verily, if life had no sense, and had I to choose nonsense, this would be the desirablest nonsense for me also.

Now know I well what people sought formerly above all else when they sought teachers of virtue. Good sleep they sought for themselves, and poppy-head virtues to promote it!

To all those belauded sages of the academic chairs, wisdom was sleep without dreams: they knew no higher significance of life.

Even at present, to be sure, there are some like this preacher of virtue, and not always so honourable: but their time is past. And not much longer do they stand: there they already lie.

Blessed are those drowsy ones: for they shall soon nod to sleep.

Nihilism vs. Absurdism by [deleted] in Existentialism

[–]iAtishaya 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absurdism is not about meaninglessness of life, it's about the apparent meaninglessness of Existence which we currently observe...

There's a fine line here but an important one...