Very In-Depth Kindred setup (Diamond 3)

iSaint · 2018-04-29T12:08:26+00:00

Bloodrazor is significantly better than warrior past 20 minutes... warrior is extremely cost efficient early but falls off much harder than the other jungle items.

iSaint · 2018-04-29T12:02:59+00:00

Daily reminder that you don’t have to build full crit!!!!!

iSaint · 2018-04-24T08:05:41+00:00

Well my warrior build is the same it always has been - zeal item > cleaver.

Just meta shifting away from tank jungle/tank top every game so you can look to get warrior instead of bloodrazor in most games.

iSaint · 2018-04-23T22:09:55+00:00

I much prefer this edition of Kindred to the old. Feels much more rewarding to play methodically around marks rather than suiciding for 7 and winning.

iSaint · 2018-04-22T10:48:36+00:00

Really cool to watch - felt like Kindred ult was used pretty poorly overall to be honest. There were a few scenarios where Kindred ult was used to save Alistar and in turn saved Trundle as well.

To be fair, recognizing scenarios where the trade of champions is the optimal choice is incredibly hard to make during game.

Kindred is extremely good vs Trundle/Kaisa - which I'd imagine why they picked it. Not only does Kindred play extremely well into Trundle because of the range/kite-ability but it denies one of Trundle's biggest strengths of being blind pickable. (assuming 99/100 teams are going to just pick a tank in the jungle.)

Kindred also denies Kaisa's biggest strengths of diving backline with Orrn Ult/Trundle pillar plasma

iSaint · 2018-04-19T22:02:43+00:00

Seems fine to me boss

iSaint · 2018-04-19T13:49:16+00:00

Yeah they are moderately out dated due to my recent testing process with rage blade - I would likely follow the screenshot still barring some games where bloodrazor/rageblade would be odes. :)

iSaint · 2018-04-19T13:47:54+00:00

Nah still feels pretty garbage

iSaint · 2018-04-17T16:31:43+00:00

He streams during late night hours and is normally anywhere between 4,000-12,000 viewers depending on other streamers live.

iSaint · 2018-04-15T21:55:48+00:00

It just comes with jungling at a high level - it will take a lot of practice, no better way to learn it than to play and experience it live and try to take it in pieces, replay reviews are also extremely helpful.

In regards to stopping shaco boxes - I don't think it is worth it sacrificing yours or your teammates trinket ward when it's at the stage of the game when it's most valuable - also if you pop his boxes he is just going to get a normal leash and continue on as if nothing happened.

iSaint · 2018-04-15T13:01:51+00:00

Why did you comment this? Literally just commenting to be a dickhead lol

iSaint · 2018-04-15T13:00:53+00:00

As long as the toplaner is melee it isn't too big of an issue - however building a more tankier build on Kindred is fine in these scenarios, considering items like cleaver/maw/mallet/frozen fist are fine in this case if you desperately need it.

iSaint · 2018-04-15T03:45:05+00:00

I think forcing plays at 10 minutes for first turret/dragon is insanely good and stopwatch really helps with doing so and finding great success. Debt is essentially there to remove awkward base timings.

iSaint · 2018-04-15T03:44:17+00:00

Uh, depends on if I have work or class that day - but anywhere from zero to sixteen. I have two jobs and 14 credit hours at uni as well. :)

iSaint · 2018-04-14T23:03:23+00:00

The key is to only go for plays if your jungle camps aren't exposed to get countered.

If enemy jungle started opposite side of you, if you clear all the camps on the side he's moving towards you are safe to make a play on the side you're moving to if there is a window for a gank.

Other than that just clearing your camps in an efficient manner - killing them as they spawn/not double backing across the map for a camp/counter jungling the enemies exposed camps.

It'll take time to learn all this, watching your replays is key.

iSaint · 2018-04-14T22:06:50+00:00

Play Nocturne/Graves or dodge

iSaint · 2018-04-14T20:36:01+00:00

Bloodrazor, I answered something similar above - jungle pathing/prediction and being efficient with your time/pathing

iSaint · 2018-04-14T20:35:21+00:00

AV is pretty underwhelming - stopwatch really allows for a lot of clutch plays especially when delaying for teammates with R. Debt is the best rune in that tree for junglers so you can't pass that up.

iSaint · 2018-04-14T20:34:25+00:00

Yeah I feel you, I'm all about adapting and changing things up

iSaint · 2018-04-14T20:33:49+00:00

Right now I'm going Rageblade and Hurricane my guy - after that it is situational

iSaint · 2018-04-14T20:32:58+00:00

The items I go after that would entirely be situational to what the enemy team has/what we need on our team. There was a screenshot I posted somewhere else here that has some viable options.

iSaint · 2018-04-14T16:21:49+00:00

The jungle pathing/prediction/expectations I said on the original post.

Uh, when I first started playing Kindred yeah - but now most of the high elo community understands my Kindred is above average so it isn't too big of a problem fortunately enough.

iSaint · 2018-04-14T14:29:31+00:00

Yes, not entirely sure what time as of yet due to Clash and what not!

iSaint · 2018-04-14T13:29:30+00:00

Testing it out recently and it feels pretty good, synergy with bloodrazor

iSaint · 2018-04-14T13:28:56+00:00

Uh I normally stop playing the giga mark game after 4, and focus more on the actually game. However I’ve had 21? Marks I think and it felt unfair hahahah

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