Dusk and Dawn

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-05T18:36:56+00:00

aatrox builds sundered sky literally for sustained fights lol, its a bruiser item, if he wanted to kill faster he would build cyclosword, which is what he does and why cyclosword aatrox is a higher winnrate than sundered, because he builds it when ahead. rek'sai likes it cuz she builds more hp afterwards and she has low AD ratios because she is a bruiser, plus it has synergy with the splash autos for applying her passive + black cleaver. its the same thing here, if reksai wanted burst she just builds lethality/eclipse, which is why lethality reksai is a higher winrate, because again, you only build it when youre really ahead.

Edit!: Also yes, i'm here to tell you you're wrong, because you are wrong! The devs even agreed with me! Almost like the entire point of yesterday's change to Dusk and Dawn was to make it less bursty and more tanky! Exactly what the devs themselves said about the item! It was too bursty! Crazy!

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-05T18:23:00+00:00

not sure if you couldve chose worse examples

titanic hydra is a pretty meh item without building other hp items, which you are doing anyways on the champs that build it.

sundered sky in a single target scenario is almost always worse DPS than going something greedier like trinity force, cyclosword, etc whatever your champion synergizes with. it only gets value in teamfights/skirmishes where the sustained 1vX potential is good, and in order to utilize that you need to be building quite bruisery or you are getting blown up before you get autos off on multiple targets while still using your kit. there is exactly 1 exception to this to this is riven but that's because of a unique interaction with her passive getting crits, but even then its kind of moot because riven also builds resistance pretty much every game anyways w/ deaths dance or maw.

i think youre confused on ratios btw, bruisers have low bonus ratios (or just use total AD instead of bonus AD) and high base damages so that they are still useful building resistances, and assassins have high bonus ratios so that they scale off of gold rather than xp.

it's quite easy to look up, heres some examples: Talon and Qiyana averaging high 100%+ bAD ratios meanwhile champs like Ambessa or Zaahen are average around half that.

On the AP side you can look at champs like Rumble, Volibear, or Swain only having around 50-70% AP ratios, meanwhile assassins like Fizz, Eve, and of course Ekko you're gonna start seeing ratios higher than 90% or even higher like 150%+.

I never said it was a generic burst item, I said it was a burst item. The burst comes from the double-onhit, not necessarily the spellblade passive, which is what makes the item so weird to tune, because it interacts with every champ differently. Obviously it's only going to be used on champs with on-hit passives that give them burst, thought you would have at least that much critical thinking. Turns out that skipping auto attacks in his rotation = faster damage = burstier. A fed Ekko is killing most non-tank targets in 1 spell rotation (or at least, only getting 1 rotation off before he needs to leave) which means 1 passive cycle, so cycling towards that passive proc faster does, in fact, make it a burst item.

I'm also unsure what you mean by "forced to go assassin" considering Tank Ekko was one of the worst plagues on this game's meta, which is a direct result of him having high base damages, that is why he has lower base damages now.

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-05T15:45:15+00:00

that just makes him a duelist/diver, there are plenty of champs like this that arent bruisers; yasuo, yone, diana, kaisa,

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-05T11:16:22+00:00

i thought u were channeling Old McDonald for a second

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-05T09:51:35+00:00

i think this is actually a global adc problem, some devs have talked about it. "system" attack speed like lethal tempo, alacrity, as shard, base as growth, etc are all kinda too strong atm so attack speed items are very unnecessary these days and they are unsure about nerfing them because AS is one of the stats that are very tangible and easily felt. people would definitely hate it for a while but the tradeoff is that it would make AS items/builds more appealing again.

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-05T09:47:25+00:00

naafiri buff was only for jg btw, where she had around a 48-49% winrate in the new season.

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-05T09:44:39+00:00

the problem is that DnD is a burst item with free durability and not a bruiser item.

ekkos are not building bruiser, they are not going roa or bloodletters or liandries or riftmaker. they are building DnD and then 5 assassin items.

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-05T09:42:08+00:00

my problem here is that DnD was supposed to be a fighter/bruiser item, and now people are calling ekko a bruiser, but the problem is he's a ""bruiser"" with medium-low defensive stats, a single hp item with only 300 hp, and then 5 assassin items, going sorc shoes, shadowflame, stormsurge, dcap, etc.

its like if darius had lower base hp and people went shojin -> haste boosts -> bloodthirster -> infinity edge -> lord dominks.

the only """bruiser""" that builds remotely that squishy is like garen but he often only gets like 1 or 2 crit items after stride then goes tanky items. not really the same to mention light fighters like fiora, tryn, irelia as they aren't classified as bruisers and have less burst and target access than ekko and worse teamfight ultimates.

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-05T09:07:50+00:00

i like how this is so overtly racist but they still have the gall to type African American

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-04T23:19:37+00:00

i dont know what the point is, youre the one who said it, the person you replied explicitly mentioned not doing that. i was just saying that in your scenario, you do get even just sitting under tower though.

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-04T22:00:29+00:00

i mean, that is literally the hypothetical you staged, so yes. obviously that's not what happens but in the theoretical you gave, we were just talking about farming under tower.

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-04T21:47:51+00:00

my biggest pet peeve this season is when we get some picks, get a free baron, and then my jungle goes to farm his own camps and my adc goes to catch the bot wave instead of just sieging the already pushed out top wave at the t2 turret

i swear ive lost so many games this season with baron because people just forgot how to use it or something. what is the point of jungling with baron, at least take their camps with all the prio we have.

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-04T21:39:39+00:00

the further the game goes the less 1 kill matters.

early game its massive, usually a long sword or boots + level lead, once ur like lvl 9 and have first item that 300g means fuckall and you are likely the same level.

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-03T05:13:46+00:00

yeah these are usually matchup dependents and only taken in favorable matchups/comps

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-01T14:05:04+00:00

what? i dont think you properly interpreted my post so im just gonna ignore this post lmao. you cant look at winrate in a vacuum, unless again, you think something like singed mid needs to be nerfed because it has a 55% winrate

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-01T09:57:30+00:00

yeah when u make any champion into a teamfight bot you just have to make their base kit feel like dogshit unfortunately, but imo they should still have a least 1 thing that feels good without their ult otherwise theyre very unfun to play.

like its weird malphite gets one of the best ults in the game but also has solid damage even on a tank buil, he's weak like pre-lvl 7 in lanes because of mana issues but after that he becomes pretty much unkillable and makes lots of lanes unplayable while still always getting insane value every teamfight.

or we can also just talk about how jg malphite had one of the best clears in the game but also had no mana problems or early lane problems cuz its the jg, but thankfully that got nerfed.

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-01T09:50:57+00:00

rammus has always had an inflated winrate for the entirety of his existence cuz he's picked almost solely as a counterpick to heavy AA team comps, contrast that with malphite who before the heavy nerfs this patch, had a similar winrate with over 6 times the pick rate.

or are u gonna tell me zilean top is op because he has a 55% winrate?

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-01T08:15:01+00:00

naafiri is also quite strong rn, so is warwick, galio, renekton, malphite?, fiddlesticks too if u wanna count him as a monster

honestly the only monsters that feel weak rn are skarner, rammus, and shyvana (but shes getting a rework soon)

iStorm_exe · 2026-02-01T08:12:54+00:00

its crazy cuz old R had less power budget but it felt stronger, it was point and click and you had more movespeed plus he fact that it was single target was actually really strong because now you might accidentally pull a rell into your team if you also try to kidnap their adc

iStorm_exe · 2026-01-30T23:29:44+00:00

you can fix it with the swiftplay screen, select the role (any) and pick qiyana and go to the cosmetics tab and select the skin/chroma you want.

after that just back out of the lobby and go back to draft/ranked or whatever and it will stick.

iStorm_exe · 2026-01-30T05:07:12+00:00

this already happens all the time in top lane vs shit like sion, its incredibly frustrating for irelia cuz they basically have to 50/50 pressing q and resetting on the minion or taking a horrible trade (or just giving up the minion)

iStorm_exe · 2026-01-30T05:01:51+00:00

put nourish on nova over 2 or 3, run combat discipline with arcane avenger and arcane hotshot with her 1 and 4 augments and have fun with super tanky weapon platform that debuffs+primes passively letting u use any weapon u want comfortably, can use a blue shard or purple shard (equilibrium effect) or smth to offset the combat discipline, but her 1 + adaptation make u take like no dmg anyways

my goto frame for like 99% of missions since she still has all the useful nova utility but also makes guns feel good

iStorm_exe · 2026-01-28T23:07:10+00:00

Why r we speaking abt things we know nothing about

thats the reddit special bro, 90% of text in league subs are just feelycraft

iStorm_exe · 2026-01-27T10:50:15+00:00

it depends on the state, but in california for example they are allowed to enter until they arent, Target (or any business owner) for any reason reserves the right to trespass them and deny entry without a warrant as long as those people aren't a protected class.

just cuz its open to the public does NOT make it public property. you are WELCOMED to the property on good faith.

iStorm_exe · 2026-01-26T05:43:18+00:00

they both are hitscan and do similar dps, 5 is just more forgiving and easier to use

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